[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29618112]Sir, I read multiple books. I read of the campaigns of Frederick the Great and Napoleon. I have read encyclopedias about the history of war. I have read books on the history of cartography, books about spies and espionage and lastly the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.
The last book I have told you of, contains more common sense and facts than the insane paranoid ramblings of every conspiracy theorist in the past century.
I don't read a single book on its own and take it word for word, I knew not to do this when reading the bible.[/QUOTE]
If you knew anything about the book you'd realize how foolishly ignorant you sound right now, but because you are a learned person and I can tell you care, I will yet again shed light on this subject for you.
The author is not 'insane paranoid conspiracy theorist' as you'd like to believe anyone who subscribes to this idea is. He served in the Air Force, the Navy, and was on the Top Secret Naval Intelligence Board during his time serving on a submarine. The author himself says, he could very well have found the documents that pertain to these ideas due to the fact they were fed to him to create disinformation. He believes that was not the case due to the evidence he had gathered that supported the notion this wasn't the case.
He was killed a month after 9/11 and was most notably the first to claim foul play involving 9/11. He wrote the book in 1991 after having spent many years having access to top secret information. The documents he put into that book provide evidence in support of the elite's goals in trying to subjugate us.
I hope this shed more light on that for you, I hope I wasn't rude and if there is more you wish to know about it I'd be happy to share.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Keysle;29618194]I do recall a meeting that Alex Jones covered.
They(aj's team) got a couple 'high-ups' on camera too.
What they were all doing there, I don't know. Could it have been some political meeting? Why was Rockefeller there? Maybe he has some off shore legitimate political interest and it was just all a coincidence.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure Alex Jone's is either full of shit or a misinformation agent or both. He started coming out about 9/11 RIGHT after William Cooper, the author of [B]Behold a Pale Horse[/B], got murdered.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;29614214][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski[/url]
He's been the "handler" of every single president since George Bush Sr.
Also in regards to the events that took place on 9/11, how do you explain the traces of thermite?[/QUOTE]There were no traces of thermite, just crispy paint flakes, aluminium from the plane and rusted iron from the building. This shit's been debunked for over half a decade now, but if you're not happy with that answer, the people at [url]http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64[/url] would be glad to help you.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;29618287]There were no traces of thermite, just crispy paint flakes, aluminium from the plane and rusted iron from the building. This shit's been debunked for over half a decade now, but if you're not happy with that answer, the people at [URL]http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64[/URL] would be glad to help you.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's not surprising. Disinformation is a powerful thing, keeps people thinking they know the truth but in actuality it's just a load of bullshit. Personally I just don't think the colossal fuckup that was 9/11 happened due in part only to non-English speaking religious fanatics.
The Illuminati turns us to slaves and we rely on knowledge rather than critical thinking so we won't question anything. Music, TV, Video games are just a distraction. Bin Laden was just a coverup to make Obama look good.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ox0UlbEfLw[/media]
Of course, in your eyes this will look like a dumb idiot.
Look at these (probably won't, but give it a try)
Ever wondered why Portal (the game) has such emotional robots? They're just robots, right?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0leaCIE11uM[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGnMYD2uuNo[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHiZhl_TBA[/media]
People who try to wake people up have been taken care of. M. Jacksson, Kennedy, DMX. Eminem is trying to wake people up (Ever wondered why Eminem is so depressed in his last album?)
Of course, I'm not forcing you to believe in this, but at least give it some thoughts.
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618372]
People who try to wake people up have been taken care of. M. Jacksson, Kennedy, DMX. Eminem is trying to wake people up (Ever wondered why Eminem is so depressed in his last album?)
Of course, I'm not forcing you to believe in this, but at least give it some thoughts.[/QUOTE]
The author of Behold a Pale Horse was killed by police officers using high-powered firearms less than a month after 9/11. Talk about a good time to take someone out without people raising suspicion...
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29618344]Yeah it's not surprising. Disinformation is a powerful thing, keeps people thinking they know the truth but in actuality it's just a load of bullshit. Personally I just don't think the colossal fuckup that was 9/11 happened due in part only to non-English speaking religious fanatics.[/QUOTE]Yes yes, we're all sheeple and so on, the more outspoken conspiracy theorists are saboteurs, and proof is an artificial construct of the NWO. The 9/11 conspiracy theory has been completely and utterly debunked; unless you've got something new to add. The truther movement in general has been dead for at least 3 years, I haven't seen any papers, hypotheses or anything else of note from them for a while.
Phil Schneider, a Geological Engineer who worked for the government came out about the NWO conspiracy, was found dead in his apartment strangled to death by piano wire. They called it a suicide.
Heh, I forgot that's what passes as proof for you. Controlled demolition of the towers and building 7 have been completely ruled out; without that, the rest of the theory falls apart. Looking too deeply into the death of some dude doesn't save it.
Believe nothing - Question everything.
If the media told you about the illuminati, people would eat it.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29618436]The author of Behold a Pale Horse was killed by police officers using high-powered firearms less than a month after 9/11. Talk about a good time to take someone out without people raising suspicion...[/QUOTE]
No one gives a shit about 9/11. It's been done years ago. Bush made up a fairy tale, blamed Muslims for it, got oil, everyone's happy.
I'm worried about the future. I believe 2012 will happen, only it's rigged by the government to decrease world population.
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618520]Believe nothing - Question everything.
If the media told you about the illuminati, people would eat it.[/QUOTE]Eat what? The Illuminati or the media? I wouldn't think that lizard people taste all that nice.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;29618438]Yes yes, we're all sheeple and so on, the more outspoken conspiracy theorists are saboteurs, and proof is an artificial construct of the NWO. The 9/11 conspiracy theory has been completely and utterly debunked; unless you've got something new to add. The truther movement in general has been dead for at least 3 years, I haven't seen any papers, hypotheses or anything else of note from them for a while.[/QUOTE]
Here's my feelings and I hope you won't judge me and actually think about this with me, but here's how I see it: Essentially whatever happened that day happened because people wanted it to happen. Some people say the only people wanting it to were the fanatics, although I see plenty of evidence for another party to show interest. These people have perpetrated lies of the sort before, historically speaking, and were perfectly willing to do it again. This is all need-to-know basis only. Therefore, nothing gets out. They saw to it that the fanatics were successful, and they got what they wanted.
Minus the religious fanatics, this scenario has played out in America prior to wartime on many occasions.
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618372]
People who try to wake people up have been taken care of. M. Jacksson, Kennedy, DMX. Eminem is trying to wake people up (Ever wondered why Eminem is so depressed in his last album?)
Of course, I'm not forcing you to believe in this, but at least give it some thoughts.[/QUOTE]
lmao how has a former us president 'woken up'
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;29618287]There were no traces of thermite, just crispy paint flakes, aluminium from the plane and rusted iron from the building. This shit's been debunked for over half a decade now, but if you're not happy with that answer, the people at [url]http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64[/url] would be glad to help you.[/QUOTE]
Damn it, and I hoped my thermite argument would hold water. Damn it all. Welp, time to go get out my tin foil hat, and get along with all them conspiracy theorists.
Some conspiracies are self-organizing and no one is really behind it.
[QUOTE=joe588;29618593]lmao how has a former us president 'woken up'[/QUOTE]
lmao u don't even give another perspective a chance. lmao lol rofl.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29618589]Here's my feelings and I hope you won't judge me and actually think about this with me, but here's how I see it: Essentially whatever happened that day happened because people wanted it to happen. Some people say the only people wanting it to were the fanatics, although I see plenty of evidence for another party to show interest. These people have perpetrated lies of the sort before, historically speaking, and were perfectly willing to do it again. This is all need-to-know basis only. Therefore, nothing gets out. They saw to it that the fanatics were successful, and they got what they wanted.
Minus the religious fanatics, this scenario has played out in America prior to wartime on many occasions.[/QUOTE]I can probably see where you're going with this, but go ahead and elaborate. Who allowed who to commit the act? What parts of the US government would have to be involved in this?
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618635]lmao u don't even give another perspective a chance. lmao lol rofl.[/QUOTE]
no i find it fucking hilarious, please, enlighten me.
I did too.
I swallowed everything the media gave me.
I personally find contemplating conspiracies fun.
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618709]I did too.
I swallowed everything the media gave me.[/QUOTE]Yeah yeah, all we do is obey the media, we get the point. Feel free to enlighten us and shatter the shackles of Big Media, if you can.
[editline]5th May 2011[/editline]
Actually no, i'm not going to deprive myself of any more sleep for this silliness. Feel free to battle it out amongst yourselves, it's 1 AM here.
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618709]I did too.
I swallowed everything the media gave me.[/QUOTE]
oh.
i thought you were actually going to explain your strange beliefs then, however you just got on your stupid high horse like all the other paranoid delusional fuckwits.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;29618649]I can probably see where you're going with this, but go ahead and elaborate. Who allowed who to commit the act? What parts of the US government would have to be involved in this?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I don't have all the answers and the author who's book I'm currently infatuated with was murdered a month following 9/11. All I can say for sure is that certain highly-ranked, top-secret informed, parts of the Air Force, the Navy, as well as many government organizations like the CIA, NSA, FBI(?), etc...
But this isn't the information you need, to examine. That information, is in regards to fraternal secret societies which play a major leading role for these agencies, military VIP's, politicians, etc. This information can be found in the book, Behold a Pale Horse. I cannot stress enough how highly I recommend this book. The author fully notes the possibility of a hoax being perpetrated to fool us, but there is no denying the existence of these secret fraternal societies that are attempting to encroach on our rights one step at a time.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9p8LXD5UDs[/media]
If only.
lol fuck off, you're getting worse.
can you tell me how jfk 'woke up' or not? i'm genuinely interested as he was regarded as one of americas greatest president.
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618520]Believe nothing - Question everything.
If the media told you about the illuminati, people would eat it.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618709]I did too.
I swallowed everything the media gave me.[/QUOTE]
:frog:
Sorry for wasting your time then.
Be distracted as your human rights begin to vanish.
Of course, you won't see it coming.
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618875]Sorry for wasting your time then.
Be distracted as your human rights begin to vanish.
Of course, you won't see it coming.[/QUOTE]
you're fucking nuts mate.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[quote]Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.
People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted.[/quote]
sound familar?
[QUOTE=joe588;29618917]you're fucking nuts mate.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
sound familar?[/QUOTE]
"fuckwit, nuts". Yeah, i am all those terrible things for having a different view than yours.
Wow.
one of my old neighbors was a freemason
they'd have community dinners and shit, and you rise up through the ranks like some creepy-ass cult
fairly certain they don't rule the world though
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618983]"fuckwit, nuts". Yeah, i am all those terrible things for having a different view than yours.
Wow.[/QUOTE]
ok so explain it...
fair enough have a different view, i find it interesting. insane, but interesting none the less.
what's annoying is your arrogance towards others, your assumption that we can't think for ourselves. suppose i'm arrogant towards you too, because i think you're a lunatic but come on, it's the internet. it's built for winding people up.
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