• Conspiracy bullshit
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[QUOTE=joe588;29618917]you're fucking nuts mate. [editline]4th May 2011[/editline] sound familar?[/QUOTE] Lemme pull up the definition of close-minded asshole... :downs: Oh wait I don't need to because that's pointlessly asinine. What is it about conspiracy's that you want to know? I'll tell you one thing, a lot of people are caught up in false-information. They believe they have found the truth, but sadly they are as blinded by their ideals they've held up as much as the sheeple they condemn. So although there are wackjobs and paranoid schizos out there, they are not representative of all people who subscribe to conspiracy theories.
[QUOTE=joe588;29618999]ok so explain it...[/QUOTE] My view is that I believe some organized people (called illuminati) formed in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, and it was formed by the Freemasons is controlling the United States (most powerful nation there is to date). The illuminati was first a secret society called "The Brotherhood of snakes". The brotherhood rose and rose into what it is today, over the president. It uses presidents as a puppet to do things for them. Of course, i don't want to waste more time explaining because you will just laugh right in my face and call me words.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;29618996]one of my old neighbors was a freemason they'd have community dinners and shit, and you rise up through the ranks like some creepy-ass cult fairly certain they don't rule the world though[/QUOTE] Ever heard of Skull and Bones? Yeah well let's just say there are a lot of president's who happen to be 33rd 'degree'(read:rank) masons. Also the Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, as well as many others are comprised of high ranking masons.
[QUOTE=iusehax;29613916][img_thumb]http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/100/312/original/bwUar2.gif?1297896064[/img_thumb] But I have no idea what your on about. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Image Macro, next ban is perma" - Asaratha))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Funnily enough, that's not an image macro.' An image macro is an advice dog/spinoff of advice dog, not a picture of a dancing man with the text "Didn't read lol."
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29618223]If you knew anything about the book you'd realize how foolishly ignorant you sound right now, but because you are a learned person and I can tell you care, I will yet again shed light on this subject for you. The author is not 'insane paranoid conspiracy theorist' as you'd like to believe anyone who subscribes to this idea is. He served in the Air Force, the Navy, and was on the Top Secret Naval Intelligence Board during his time serving on a submarine. The author himself says, he could very well have found the documents that pertain to these ideas due to the fact they were fed to him to create disinformation. He believes that was not the case due to the evidence he had gathered that supported the notion this wasn't the case. He was killed a month after 9/11 and was most notably the first to claim foul play involving 9/11. He wrote the book in 1991 after having spent many years having access to top secret information. The documents he put into that book provide evidence in support of the elite's goals in trying to subjugate us. I hope this shed more light on that for you, I hope I wasn't rude and if there is more you wish to know about it I'd be happy to share. [editline]4th May 2011[/editline] Pretty sure Alex Jone's is either full of shit or a misinformation agent or both. He started coming out about 9/11 RIGHT after William Cooper, the author of [B]Behold a Pale Horse[/B], got murdered.[/QUOTE] To think that 9/11 was an inside job is utter stupidity. Why would a government attack their own buildings for the purposes of war? Other nations have gone to war more easily, often declaring war without any reason at all. You could more easily have a war by sending some spies in to depose a government, then send in your army. Why the fuck have a overly elaborate plan involving aircraft hitting towers and the pentagon? This organisation would have to be massive. Humans aren't quiet. Who would you pay off? Well everybody who oversaw the planes taking off. You would need to pay off and/or silence every person who knew anything about it. The building inspectors of the buildings would be paid off if they found explosives. What about people who saw them plant explosives? All paid off? Bullshit, the organisation would be so massive it would involve tons and tons of people. Do you not think that one of them would do something? Warn people? Why would none of them do anything? They would have families and friends who would die in the incident. Why would they not warn them? Instead they let their friends and family go to their deaths, in return for insane amounts of money or threat by SECRET GOVERNMENT AGENTS? Nobody would raise the alarm either? How come then so few people have said anything about it, only after it took place and the fact most of them were paranoid insane people makes it seem stupid. Why is it that none of the stories was seized on by the media? The ensuing commotion will have made them loads of money. If they silenced everything pertaining to it then how come if they were that good they have been unable to silence the people rambling on about it on the internet? The truth is, there is no secret organisations. There are gentlemen clubs such as mason lodges, nothing much more than eccentric people being IRL trolls. Governments use espionage but not on the ridiculous scale you have suggested. Information is hard to keep secure, and to keep this information secure disinformation is also kept. Such as the case when the allies intended to invade Greece but invaded Sicily instead via use of a drowned man with papers. If information about aliens and conspiracies are leaked out does it not make you think that the leaked information is bullshit and the real information is kept secure? You are reading the bullshit, and the truth is kept sealed in government archives, and the truth is certainly not about 9/11 was an inside job or aliens for fucks sake. Also: [img]http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/archives/pictures/xkcd_duty_calls.png[/img]
First you have to crack open your way of thinking, then it gets better and better. You don't have to believe in "lol bush maed 9/11 loolol" but give every piece of information you receive a bit of thinking.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29619090]Ever heard of Skull and Bones? Yeah well let's just say there are a lot of president's who happen to be 33rd 'degree'(read:rank) masons. Also the Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, as well as many others are comprised of high ranking masons.[/QUOTE] they'll all christians too oh no, the christian church must rule america
[QUOTE=Chekko;29619088]organized people (called illuminati) formed in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, and it was formed by the Freemasons. The illuminati was first a secret society called "The Brotherhood of snakes". [/QUOTE] Adam Weishaupt is undoubtedly the originator of the Illuminati in the form we know today. The Brotherhood of the Snakes is also a real thing. The ideologies they subscribe to my understand go as follows: They uphold the symbol of the snake as ultimate understanding and knowledge due to the snake in the genesis story having bestowed the tree of knowledge's fruits to us. The snake symbolizes intellect, technology, etc. To one form or another this makes their beliefs 'Satanic'. Do not be fooled, this is only to mislead and confuse people as they do not believe in a god in the sense of christianity.
Okay I'll go give glenn beck's words some 'serious thought'. [editline]4th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Chekko;29619172]First you have to crack open your way of thinking, then it gets better and better. You don't have to believe in "lol bush maed 9/11 loolol" but give every piece of information you receive a bit of thinking.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sector 7;29619190]they'll all christians too oh no, the christian church must rule america[/QUOTE] refer to my post above to understand why it is they don't truly believe what they say they do in the public light.
[QUOTE=Hampants;29619152]Funnily enough, that's not an image macro.' An image macro is an advice dog/spinoff of advice dog, not a picture of a dancing man with the text "Didn't read lol."[/QUOTE] Wrong. Any image with a short phrase written with the intent of being funny is an image macro. Advice Dog is just a very large category.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29619166]:words:[/quote] You're begging the question.
Yo man goerge bush totally destroyed them towers, dog.
But al queda is a front for a US government agency!
all very well, but there is no way you can prove this at all. the most successful (and loony) conspiracies like that are the ones that can't be proven. even if i followed these guys round for the next 10 years and watched their every move but found no evidence you'd say they were on to me or whatever.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29619197]Adam Weishaupt is undoubtedly the originator of the Illuminati in the form we know today. The Brotherhood of the Snakes is also a real thing. The ideologies they subscribe to my understand go as follows: They uphold the symbol of the snake as ultimate understanding and knowledge due to the snake in the genesis story having bestowed the tree of knowledge's fruits to us. The snake symbolizes intellect, technology, etc. To one form or another this makes their beliefs 'Satanic'. Do not be fooled, this is only to mislead and confuse people as they do not believe in a god in the sense of christianity.[/QUOTE] You are reading the bullshit leaked to cause confusion and misinformation. The leaked bullshit is essentially what you are believing in, the real information is shit that you have no interest in because it isn't as interesting. Stuff like army movements, nuclear weapon development, paper forces of the armed forces, etc which is the real information and not the bullshit you read in. What of Alexander the Great? Caesar? Genghis Khan? Frederick the Great? Napoleon? The First world war? Crimean war? Great northern war? 30 years war? Industrial Revolution? Is that all a fabrication?
[QUOTE=Hampants;29619152]Funnily enough, that's not an image macro.' An image macro is an advice dog/spinoff of advice dog, not a picture of a dancing man with the text "Didn't read lol."[/QUOTE] are you new to the internet or something? 'didnt read lol' is an image macro, and has been for a long time.
one of my friends genuinely believes that Al Gore conducted the 9/11 attacks as a reason to invade the Middle East and that we never went to the moon - it was all CG
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29619363]You are reading the bullshit leaked to cause confusion and misinformation. The leaked bullshit is essentially what you are believing in, the real information is shit that you have no interest in because it isn't as interesting. Stuff like army movements, nuclear weapon development, paper forces of the armed forces, etc which is the real information and not the bullshit you read in. What of Alexander the Great? Caesar? Genghis Khan? Frederick the Great? Napoleon? The First world war? Crimean war? Great northern war? 30 years war? Industrial Revolution? Is that all a fabrication?[/QUOTE] this, i wouldn't say all of it is intentional though. you don't believe everything you see on tv do you? a lot of people believe what they read though, and the internet has made it especially easy for anyone to write to a mass audience, fact or pure fantasy. [editline]4th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Macktastic;29619391]one of my friends genuinely believes that Al Gore conducted the 9/11 attacks as a reason to invade the Middle East and that we never went to the moon - it was all CG[/QUOTE] al gore? wtf, you sure you don't mean bush.
[QUOTE=joe588;29619424]al gore? wtf, you sure you don't mean bush.[/QUOTE] no I mean Al Gore
The illuminati conspiracy can also be made up by the government to make an illusion that the government has such powers. Or THAT could be a conspiracy. Or THAT. Fuck it.
[QUOTE=Macktastic;29619391]one of my friends genuinely believes that Al Gore conducted the 9/11 attacks as a reason to invade the Middle East and that we never went to the moon - it was all CG[/QUOTE] The fact that he seems to think that Al Gore was president should be enough to tell you that he's an idiot.
Conspiracy theorist are stupid
I personally do not consider myself to be a conspiracy theorist. But I cant help but question certain conspiracy theories from time to time as they do sound plausible (not all), nothing I would actively preach to people but shit that's mostly really up to ones speculation. Fuck knows what the government has in mind or is hiding from people, and frankly I do not give a shit. I assume they keep the information hidden from society because let's face it, society is goddamn retarded and is incapable of making rational, long term decisions. And while laughing at people who even slightly mention they have some minor belief about a conspiracy might be amusing, you are lying only to yourself when you say you hadn't consider the possibility that one of them might be actually true.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;29619536]The fact that he seems to think that Al Gore was president should be enough to tell you that he's an idiot.[/QUOTE] what he has in his head is that Bush was just elected over Gore to please the majority, and Al Gore is the one actually in control. Al-Qaeda couldn't have pulled off 9/11, because they're not smart enough It's especially interesting because he explains all these theories with all these obsolete words so nobody can argue back w/e though that's too off-topic [editline]wef[/editline] actually that's what I think a lot of conspiracy theories are - unreasonable speculations that are made believable through fancy wording
[QUOTE=Melnek;29619642]I personally do not consider myself to be a conspiracy theorist. But I cant help but question certain conspiracy theories from time to time as they do sound plausible (not all), nothing I would actively preach to people but shit that's mostly really up to ones speculation. Fuck knows what the government has in mind or is hiding from people, and frankly I do not give a shit. I assume they keep the information hidden from society because let's face it, society is goddamn retarded and is incapable of making rational, long term decisions. And while laughing at people who even slightly mention they have some minor belief about a conspiracy might be amusing, you are lying only to yourself when you say you hadn't consider the possibility that one of them might be actually true.[/QUOTE] You're just open minded, it's good.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29619240]You're begging the question.[/QUOTE] I however wish to ask. Why do you believe conspiracy theories are true?
occams razor - the simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation. [editline]4th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Melnek;29619642] And while laughing at people who even slightly mention they have some minor belief about a conspiracy might be amusing, you are lying only to yourself when you say you hadn't consider the possibility that one of them might be actually true.[/QUOTE] yes i have thought about a few of them, aside from the obviously crazy ones (see pauls dead) and i think they're mostly bullshit.
[QUOTE=joe588;29619752]occams razor - the simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation. [editline]4th May 2011[/editline] yes i have thought about a few of them, aside from the obviously crazy ones (see pauls dead) and i think they're mostly bullshit.[/QUOTE] I agree as well, I looked into them like you did and came to a conclusion that they are stupid. Most conspiracy theorists have never actually read any history books beyond ones by other conspiracy theorists.
Its nice to believe since it means stopping just a hand full of people will make the world a better place and it makes you seem cool and different. Also there are beliefs that stay just because they have some very small amount of proof. Like aliens or big foot were if there is one can't explain that then it must be a global thing. On the other hand though there definitely is corruption in the world so you shouldn't consider every I think this company is doing this and call it batshit insane as long as its logical.
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