• Conspiracy bullshit
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;29621720]The Illuminati is a fake ruse to distract us from the actual secret organization. I know this because of a lot of really vague clues and assumptions.[/QUOTE] I know this because I used my secret decoder ring I got from my Cap'n Crunch cereal box to decode the names of all members of the Village People
[QUOTE=TH89;29622004][img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3677532/IMG_0533.jpg[/img_thumb] D:[/QUOTE] The appendix of this book is literally filled with classified government documents. It's roughly less-than a third of the books composition. I also can pick up hints. I'll try to upload a picture of a good one.
[QUOTE=TH89;29622004][img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3677532/IMG_0533.jpg[/img_thumb] D:[/QUOTE] It must be true! oh god oh god oh god :tinfoil:
-Das automerge-
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29622040]The appendix of this book is literally filled with classified government documents. It's roughly less-than half the books composition. I also can pick up hints. I'll try to upload a picture of a good one.[/QUOTE] How do you know they're legitimate documents?
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29621896]If he showed you a picture of a piece of fucking paper with writing on it, and it looked official enough to you, you'd believe it, whether it's a real document or not. lol[/QUOTE] I have legitimate papers here sir, I have disproved your theory completely and utterly. This is from the desk of the president himself. [img]http://i.imgur.com/ffgZY.png[/img]
I never understood why the Illuminati put clues that they are ruling the world in stuff. I mean if I ruled the world I wouldn't be to cocky and telling the few "non sheaple" that im real.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29622058]I have legitimate papers here sir, I have disproved your theory completely and utterly[/QUOTE] You're proving what I said right there.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622080]You're proving what I said right there.[/QUOTE] Prove me wrong.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29622117]Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE] I would but you're totally useless to me. I wouldn't even bother trying to sell you on the streets.
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[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622205]I would but you're totally useless to me. I wouldn't even bother trying to sell you on the streets.[/QUOTE] So far I haven't heard anything from you other than "there's a giant conspiracy and I have the evidence but I won't tell you any of it because you're stupid because you don't believe me" If you're not willing to make the case for your own side, why are you even posting in this thread?
[QUOTE=TH89;29622004][img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3677532/IMG_0533.jpg[/img_thumb] D:[/QUOTE] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20516268/Pictures/2011-05-04%2020.07.29.jpg[/img] The documents are encoded in all these books just read every other letter except if it's n, then if it follows an "a" make it into a number that's half of the page number added to twice the number of lines you are in on the page especial the colbert book. he's in on it so the entire book is just illiuminiaty propaganda from the start and frinish
Sorry I'm taking forever at this. Hope this was a good one to pick there are a lot more where this came from.. [IMG]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5079/img20110504180435.jpg[/IMG] Btw, that document is dated 1798.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622205]I would but you're totally useless to me. I wouldn't even bother trying to sell you on the streets.[/QUOTE] So I'm useless to you? So you think that some humans can be sold into slavery, and that the ones that disagree with you aren't even fit for slavery? Therefore you think there are some humans who probably do not even deserve to live? [QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29622251]Sorry I'm taking forever at this. Hope this was a good one to pick there are a lot more where this came from... [media]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5079/img20110504180435.jpg[/media][/QUOTE] Oh cool that looks like one of those old 1950s books I had about the middle ages.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29622251]Sorry I'm taking forever at this. Hope this was a good one to pick there are a lot more where this came from.. [media]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5079/img20110504180435.jpg[/media][/QUOTE] This isn't a government document, it's the title page of another conspiracy book. There were conspiracy theorists in the 1700s too, that doesn't necessarily make them more credible.
Yeah fuck it, let's just believe what the government says and everyone else is a fucking liar.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29622251]Sorry I'm taking forever at this. Hope this was a good one to pick there are a lot more where this came from.. [media]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5079/img20110504180435.jpg[/media] Btw, that document is dated 1798.[/QUOTE] That's not a secret government document, that's the opening page to a book that you can buy on Amazon. [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Proofs-Conspiracy-Governments-Freemasons-Illuminati/dp/1606201018[/url] I might be into conspiracies but fucking hell at least I check my information before I make myself look silly.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622360]Yeah fuck it, let's just believe what the government says and everyone else is a fucking liar.[/QUOTE] No its that you need to give proof. If your wife said she was going to the store and I said no shes going to cheat on you wouldn't you want proof or would you just take my word on it?
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622360]Yeah fuck it, let's just believe what the government says and everyone else is a fucking liar.[/QUOTE] Yeah fuck it, let's just believe that the government is never telling the truth and everyone else is just a sheeple (Sheepson?)
Here's some comments on that book by John Hare, an anthropologist: [quote]Although Robison was very much an advocate of science and rationalism, in later life, disillusioned by the French Revolution, he became an ardent monarchist. In this work, Proofs of a Conspiracy, Robison laid the groundwork for modern conspiracy theorists by implicating the Bavarian Illuminati as responsible for the excesses of the French Revolution. The Bavarian Illuminati, a rationalist secret society, was founded by Adam Weishaupt in 1776 in what is today Germany. They had an inner core of true believers, who secretly held radical atheist, anti-monarchist and possibly proto-feminist views, at that time considered beyond the pale. They recruited by infiltrating the numerous (and otherwise benign) Freemasonic groups which were active at the time on the continent. Necessarily they had a clandestine, compartmentalized, hierarchical organizational form, which has led some modern conspiracy theorists to identify them as the original Marxist-Leninist group. However, this is most likely simply a case of parallel evolution. Since we don't have convenient access to the source documents of the Bavarian Illuminati we have to rely on Robison and the Abbé Barruel's Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism, both in the 'opposing views' category, for information on this group. The Illuminati have today become a byword for a secret society which hoodwinks its junior members and puppet-masters society at large. This reputation is in no little part due to Robison's book. However, reading between the lines, it becomes obvious that the Bavarian Illuminati were what the American Old Left called a 'talk shop,' barely able to organize a picnic, let alone the Terror. Instead, it seems, they were only expressing views widespread in intellectual circles of the day. They were not, as Robison claims, the fuse that lit the downfall of the French Monarchy. Nonetheless, this book make fascinating reading, and in conjunction with other historical accounts of the French Revolution, helps dimensionalize the period for students of history. [/quote]
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622360]Yeah fuck it, let's just believe what the government says and everyone else is a fucking liar.[/QUOTE] No, just read into things a bit more and don't be so quick to lap up information from any old source. It's called research for a reason.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622360]Yeah fuck it, let's just believe what the government says and everyone else is a fucking liar.[/QUOTE] You aren't a liar, you are just stupid that's all. Part of the conspiracy theory is probably due to you being terrified of something like 1984 or something happening.
I kind of realized that you were going to ask about seeing actual government documents... well, here's a bunch pertaining to UFO's... uploading
[QUOTE=PulpedFiction;29622452]No, just read into things a bit more and don't be so quick to lap up information from any old source. It's called research for a reason.[/QUOTE] What makes a source reliable? What says they're going to be 100% truthful? You don't understand what happens when someone writes something that a lot of people read and believe to be true. And if you did, you'd understand why some people would like to lie about some things.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29622514]I kind of realized that you were going to ask about seeing actual government documents... well, here's a bunch pertaining to UFO's... uploading[/QUOTE] Before you do... [quote=Wikipedia]Cooper later acknowledged that his UFO beliefs had been misguided, stating, "For many years I sincerely believed that an extraterrestrial threat existed and that it was the most important driving force behind world events. I was wrong and for that I most deeply and humbly apologize"[/quote]
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622517]What makes a source reliable? What says they're going to be 100% truthful? You don't understand what happens when someone writes something that a lot of people read and believe to be true. And if you did, you'd understand why some people would like to lie about some things.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between being skeptical of some information and outright denying any and all information to the contrary. No idea if you're a devil's advocate or not, but you have to realize that most conspiracy nutters are nutters. If you think that there might be a conspiracy involving a few banks to crash another, that's a legitimate thing, and can be proven or disproven given the research. And primarily, it's plausible. Now, if you have the moon landing or something, it's been proven that it happened, and it's implausible that it didn't happen. Oh hey, we got 5 pages before the boxes started flying
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29622517]What makes a source reliable? What says they're going to be 100% truthful? You don't understand what happens when someone writes something that a lot of people read and believe to be true. And if you did, you'd understand why some people would like to lie about some things.[/QUOTE] A long record of providing accurate information to the best of its ability, and of correcting information if it's found to be false, makes a source reliable. Of course, if you're so much of a conspiracy theorist that you believe credible news organizations such as The New York Times are being controlled by the conspiracy, your ideas become impossible to disprove and therefore invalid.
[media]http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/5227/img20110504182342.jpg[/media] [media]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5746/img20110504182308.jpg[/media] Messed up the other two I took so that's all for right now. [editline]5th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TH89;29622547]Before you do...[/QUOTE] Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. It's nonsense to use as evidence in this argument and it doesn't take a genius to figure out why.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29622617][media]http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/5227/img20110504182342.jpg[/media] [media]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5746/img20110504182308.jpg[/media] Messed up the other two I took so that's all for right now. [editline]5th May 2011[/editline] Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. It's nonsense to use as evidence in this argument and it doesn't take a genius to figure out why.[/QUOTE] You're one to talk. None of those documents are really legible, nor do they have any recognizable official insignia or stamps, nor names of a government office. Link to the FBI's/CIA's/whoever's page of declassified material, then it'll be possible to actually say anything about them
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