Faux news reporter John Stossel has invaded my classroom, possibly others.
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poland's the way to go
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As a British citizen it's always been my dream to attend American public school.
There's nothing special about it. But if that's your dream then make it happen.
I like the U.S.
[QUOTE=cccritical;27222664]poland's the way to go
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No.
Racists.
Is fox news really that bad? Does the broadcasting media not have strict guidelines to adhere to?
You seem almost anti 1st Amendment in your notes. All groups have a right to exist whether or not they're crazy or stupid because those are relative terms. Arrest the people doing the crimes, don't put a group of people to prosecution for holding beliefs.
Oh and speak for yourself, I'm not a pig.
As for Fox news, eh. I agree they're pretty stupid most the time, but it's a free country.
[QUOTE=dumbfox;27223443]Is fox news really that bad? Does the broadcasting media not have strict guidelines to adhere to?[/QUOTE]
Fox News isn't bad at all. They're stupid at times, sure, but like any controversial issue on Facepunch, it's blown way out of proportion when it's being discussed.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;27223560]Fox News isn't bad at all. They're stupid at times, sure, but like any controversial issue on Facepunch, it's blown way out of proportion when it's being discussed.[/QUOTE]
Facepunch is just full of extreme liberal 13 year olds who have no clue how the government works.
I'm saying this and I'm a liberal.
[quote]We let things like hate groups, religious organizations and other radicals, which are all defined in the constitution as separated from the state. Have had large and still to have control over our population, and thanks to our 1st amendment, they're all out of the line of fire. Yet they still commit crimes against those they consider to be the minority, which is criminally offensive and discriminate. While our defense turns a blind eye to what really happens.[/quote]
wut
Fuck you John Stossel is cool.
We watched a video by him in my microeconomics class discussing why the drug war blows. Then I wrote a paper on it arguing for the legalization of all drugs and got an A.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;27223597]Facepunch is just full of extreme liberal 13 year olds who have no clue how the government works.[/QUOTE]
In before hyper-liberals claim Facepunch is conservative
I'm reading your essay submission and my jaw just hit the keyboard at how stupid you're making yourself sound.
[quote]Our citizenship process is a absolute joke, we require things like US history. And we make people pay ridiculous amounts of money and time just to get in. It's not a guarantee of a job, home, any security.[/quote]Do you have [I]any[/I] idea how the job market works? Just because it's reported that unemployment is down 15% does not in any way mean you have [I]no[/I] luck in getting a job [I]anywhere.[/I] Contrary to popular belief, a college degree isn't even necessary to get a good job.
Does it look good? Of course. Can it help? Most definitely. Is it necessary for something you want to do? Depends on what you want.
Manual labor isn't the automatic answer to "I graduated from high school and have no extended education and want a job."
Not to mention affirmative action. Plus, you seem to completely miss the fact that those who do not legalize their citizenship get jobs in manual labor anyway. Nothing high paying, but they definitely get a job.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;27223622]Fuck you John Stossel is cool.
We watched a video by him in my microeconomics class discussing why the drug war blows. Then I wrote a paper on it arguing for the legalization of all drugs and got an A.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me there were other reasons other than "lower crime rate and taxation on drugs."
1. If you make something once illegal and make it legal, you are obviously going to get a lower crime rate.
2. Arguing taxation on drugs is silly, because then it just shows that you think the governments job is to tax stuff, which it isn't.
I have no strong feelings on this particular topic, but those 2 reasons are always brought up and they are bad ones to be honest.
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[QUOTE=Funcoot;27223768]1. If you make something once illegal and make it legal, you are obviously going to get a lower crime rate.[/QUOTE]
The fact that it's so obvious makes it an even [i]stronger[/i] argument.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;27223768]2. Arguing taxation on drugs is silly, because then it just shows that you think the governments job is to tax stuff, which it isn't.[/QUOTE]
"I don't want taxes to exist so for the sake of argument we must assume they don't."
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;27215929]John Stossel is one of my favorite reporters. He has a cool mustache and he is unbiased in his reports.[/QUOTE]
he also got punched in the face by a professional wrestler
Hey fuck you, America is the best. When we invade something it's cause we can. You should be proud of your country not hate it, If you hate it move out.
deal w/it
[QUOTE=Funcoot;27223768]Please tell me there were other reasons other than "lower crime rate and taxation on drugs."
1. If you make something once illegal and make it legal, you are obviously going to get a lower crime rate.
2. Arguing taxation on drugs is silly, because then it just shows that you think the governments job is to tax stuff, which it isn't.
I have no strong feelings on this particular topic, but those 2 reasons are always brought up and they are bad ones to be honest.[/QUOTE]
Haha no those are the shittiest arguments ever but everyone uses them. I argued from a purely ethical standpoint that the government has no business regulating what you put into your body.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;27224061]Haha no those are the shittiest arguments ever but everyone uses them. I argued from a purely ethical standpoint that the government has no business regulating what you put into your body.[/QUOTE]
Better argument.
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[QUOTE=Chilean;27223817]The fact that it's so obvious makes it an even [i]stronger[/i] argument.
"I don't want taxes to exist so for the sake of argument we must assume they don't."[/QUOTE]
1. You make no sense. If you make a crime, not a crime, crime rate drops. Hard is that to understand.
12 year old who has no idea what we're talking about. It is not the job of the government to tax every thing in America.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;27224157]1. You make no sense. If you make a crime, not a crime, crime rate drops. Hard is that to understand.
12 year old who has no idea what we're talking about. It is not the job of the government to tax every thing in America.[/QUOTE]
The crime rate argument applies to related crimes such as gang violence.
Are you pretending that the government doesn't tax things though, or that they'll ever stop? We might as well reap the benefits since that's the way it's going to be.
Thanks for calling me 12 though, clearly you are the master of logical not-at-all-overused arguments.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;27223560]Fox News isn't bad at all. They're stupid at times, sure, but like any controversial issue on Facepunch, it's blown way out of proportion when it's being discussed.[/QUOTE]
Except Fox news was sued for lying and won. Couldn't find the original article. [url]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/30/201231/262[/url]
EDIT: Found it [url]http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html[/url]
I used to watch his "Give me a break" segment all the time, he was smart
I don't think a lot of people, on Facepunch at least, fail to realize that he's a libertarian. And not some radical neo-con. As others have pointed out, it's probably just out of some unreasonable hate for anything associated with Fox.
[QUOTE=Warrior59;27224725]EDIT: Found it [url]http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Horrible source.
america probably is the best country out there but it's filled to the brim with shit, just slightly less shit than others
[QUOTE=Chilean;27224337]The crime rate argument applies to related crimes such as gang violence.
Are you pretending that the government doesn't tax things though, or that they'll ever stop? We might as well reap the benefits since that's the way it's going to be.
Thanks for calling me 12 though, clearly you are the master of logical not-at-all-overused arguments.[/QUOTE]
1. Good point, it will lead to a decrease in related crime, but not very much. Not as much as the statistics say, because they'll still probably try to factor in the decrease from abolishing drug regulations.
2. You are not reading what I am saying, instead you are trying to twist my words around. Just because the government already taxes a lot of things (NOT EVERYTHING), doesn't mean they should just start taxing drugs too if they were made legal. "Tax it cause we tax everything else." is a silly argument.
[QUOTE=Chilean;27224337]The crime rate argument applies to related crimes such as gang violence.[/QUOTE]
Even though a vast majority of the crimes committed in the United States are non-violent crimes.
HOW DARE FAUX NEWS SAY GOOD THINGS ABOUT AMERICA.
By the way, I always considered saying "Faux News" retarded, since it doesn't make any sense. Lrn2 French.
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Holy shit, I just read your essay. You are fucking awful at writing and your points are borderline semi-retarded and contradicting.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;27225393]Even though a vast majority of the crimes committed in the United States are non-violent crimes.[/QUOTE]
No one's claiming it will stop people from speeding or something. They're saying it will decrease violent gang crime, not create a magical utopia where no crimes are committed. Honestly, even the slightest decrease in gang violence is worth legalizing a significantly harmless drug.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;27225278]2. You are not reading what I am saying, instead you are trying to twist my words around. Just because the government already taxes a lot of things (NOT EVERYTHING), doesn't mean they should just start taxing drugs too if they were made legal. "Tax it cause we tax everything else." is a silly argument.[/QUOTE]
That's true, yet I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want it taxed, as it's no different from other recreational substances that receive the same treatment. You'd be better off fighting taxation on things like birth control or educational materials than on a drug. And by saying a tax would be in our best interests, I'm not at all implying that taxation is the governments "only" job. But look, this is just me defending those two arguments, as they are still pretty sound, regardless of how many stoner kids slur them out without fully understanding them. As you said, there are still many other great arguments in its favor.
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