• Stop calling OBAMA a communist
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Obama is a Communist.
[QUOTE=ray243;17080494]Because its uncool. Why the fuck do people think that having affordable healthcare=communism? The next thing this conservative fuckheads are gonna do is call him hitler. Come on, even NHS [b]wasn't that bad.[/b] Also, give me rainbows[/QUOTE] the british NHS is one of the best national health services in the world, i hate it when americans start hating on our healthcare, [b]it works[/b]
Communism: A theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. Their logic is flawed [editline]7:40[/editline] I think they're calling him a commie because he's black and apparently communist is the best they can come up with
Who the fuck cares?
McCarthyism needs to die.
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[QUOTE=ray243;17080494] The next thing this conservative fuckheads are gonna do is call him hitler.[/QUOTE] I thought they were doing that already.
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;17081839]I thought they were doing that already.[/QUOTE] Sauce?
[img]http://radioactiveliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/nhtaxdayrally17.jpg[/img] Some intelligent economists voicing their opinions. ^
why is America so scared of the slightly left
[QUOTE=ray243;17081893]Sauce?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure. [QUOTE=johnlukeg;17081946][img]http://radioactiveliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/nhtaxdayrally17.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] But I'd say this confirms it.
What is wrong with socialism if it helps the people? We can't all be rich and afford the best.
[QUOTE=Kingy_who;17080809]I personaly think it's time for america to go socalist, the europe manages just fine, conservatives here are more or less socalist though.[/QUOTE] Europe is not a factor in how America works, just because Europe does something doesn't mean America should follow, even if it works. Socialism is putting the government in total control which is exactly the opposite of what the founding fathers had in mind. America was meant to be capitalist, it's the most free system that there is, with a socialist government or communist government, that's taking the free out of the free market. The only services that the government should give is essential services such as a fire department, a police department, etc. I do believe that if we get a good plan for healthcare, we should pass it.
[QUOTE=Cyril;17080961]But my country has affordable healthcare, and for you firt think that come with affordable healthcare, is nazy germany...[/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm]How do you think the nazi's killed the jews?[/url]
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[QUOTE=GamerKiwi;17082166]Europe is not a factor in how America works, just because Europe does something doesn't mean America should follow, even if it works. Socialism is putting the government in total control which is exactly the opposite of what the founding fathers had in mind. America was meant to be capitalist, it's the most free system that there is, with a socialist government or communist government, that's taking the free out of the free market. The only services that the government should give is essential services such as a fire department, a police department, etc. I do believe that if we get a good plan for health care, we should pass it.[/QUOTE] That's what socialism is, so I've been taught. Socialism isn't Communism, Socialism is taking control of required services to run a government healthily, or whatever. Basically, they control the hospitals and Police Departments. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't understand the hate for Socialism. It's not like we're being asked to get rid of Freedom of Speech.
[QUOTE=GamerKiwi;17082166]Europe is not a factor in how America works, just because Europe does something doesn't mean America should follow, even if it works. Socialism is putting the government in total control which is exactly the opposite of what the founding fathers had in mind. America was meant to be capitalist, it's the most free system that there is, with a socialist government or communist government, that's taking the free out of the free market. The only services that the government should give is essential services such as a fire department, a police department, etc. I do believe that if we get a good plan for healthcare, we should pass it.[/QUOTE] Yeah - it's a pity he has a policy of compromise, which ends up delaying things by ages where it's most visible.
When I saw the thread title, I automatically assume your going to deny a good portion of what im about to tell you. Nobody calls Obama a communist, but people DO call him a socialist, because being a part of democratic party they stand for what socialism stands for. The socialist party that usually runs for president themselves dont even run anymore because of that sole fact, they even said it(google up some stuff) Socialism and Communism are different
[QUOTE=Kingy_who;17082005]why is America so scared of the slightly left[/QUOTE] They were brainwashed with anti-left propaganda during the Cold War, and are so retarded they continue to believe it.
As a self proclaimed Marxist, I will now state that Obama is NOT a communist, and however he is a bit socialist, but he is still left-centrist overall. Americans are afraid that if anyone gets too close to popping out of that centrist circle then all hell will break out.
[QUOTE=cheesedelux;17080673]Perhaps somebody would care to make a fair argument against Obama's proposed healthcare system? One which doesn't consist largely of furious megaconservative attacks on Obama himself. [b]I honestly can't see what problem people have with it[/b], so maybe the people who can afford it as it is might get less attention, but what about the people who can't, or can pay but that's their savings out the window because granny got sick?[/QUOTE] They give valid arguements, but because of what I bolded, you won't listen.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;17080521][img_thumb]http://www.comixed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/128938828849146716.jpg[/img_thumb] [editline]09:54AM[/editline] :smug:[/QUOTE] Oh god, :roflolmao:
[QUOTE=Chihuahua;17082841]That's what socialism is, so I've been taught. Socialism isn't Communism, Socialism is taking control of required services to run a government healthily, or whatever. Basically, they control the hospitals and Police Departments. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't understand the hate for Socialism. It's not like we're being asked to get rid of Freedom of Speech.[/QUOTE] Because most of the american fuckwit populace are convinced that they can take care of themselves. And getting free healthcare is for stupid commies. In fact, anything free is for stupid commies, and thus bad. Seriously, let the government give people guns and people will shout 'COMMIES' or 'SOCIALIST'.
[QUOTE=tobolate;17080570]Considering most of the people he has unofficially appointed are self acclaimed "Marxists" (in other words people who believe in communism), I would say that some of these claims are justified.[/QUOTE] The only way you would have made that conclusion was if you watched Glenn Beck's chalkboard conspiracy thing.
obama's a communist?
[QUOTE=Kingy_who;17082005]why is America so scared of the slightly left[/QUOTE] Generalisation
[QUOTE=Chihuahua;17082841]That's what socialism is, so I've been taught. Socialism isn't Communism, Socialism is taking control of required services to run a government healthily, or whatever. Basically, they control the hospitals and Police Departments. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't understand the hate for Socialism. It's not like we're being asked to get rid of Freedom of Speech.[/QUOTE] Socialism does take control of those, but the main gripe about socialism is the fact that it's suppose to take over industries and businesses as well. Police Departments are run under the local and state governments though, not the federal one.
[QUOTE=ray243;17081893]Sauce?[/QUOTE] [url]http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=hitler%20obama&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi[/url] [editline]04:18PM[/editline] And Glenn Beck.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;17080680]where was all this media and public hate for Bush? fuck I don't even think he was born, I think he was a pimple on his dads ass that fell off and started walking.[/QUOTE] hahahahaha WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHERE WAS THIS HATE FOR BUSH?!? There used to be a thing where if you typed in "failure" on google it brought him up, mad magazine made a whole issue on how much they hated him, and much much more. Jeez.
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