Right. North Americans seem horrified when people say that they got beat by their parents as kids. I don't get it. Now I'm no parent or anything yet, but I'm almost 21 now, and yeah, I got beat by my parents when I messed up as a kid, back when I was living in the Middle East. They used the strap of a belt. Stings enough to get the point across, but doesn't scar or do any other permanent damage.
In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with corporal discipline. When your kids are too young or stupid to understand why they shouldn't do something even after you explain it to them, other forms of negative reinforcement may be needed. Mind you, I'm not saying that a huge 200lb dad should be able to kick the shit out of a toddler, I'm talking about stuff like slaps on the wrist and, when the kid is older, maybe the strap of a belt. Do I harbor any resentment towards my parents for the punishments I received in that manner? No. I was a stupid kid and it helped me straighten out. And they never overdid it, and always explained things first and gave me a chance to correct myself before they resorted to it.
I don't think I'm traumatized or psychologically scarred or anything. It made me a little tougher.
All I'm saying is that people shouldn't see it as the difference between two extremes: Not touching your kid as opposed to beating the very life out of him. There's moderation for everything, and as a conditioning tool, corporal punishment in careful moderation can be useful.
You're almost all westerners here. What do you think?
No, it it proven that beating a child is never necessary in raising one.
You either raised it wrong or spoiled the hell out of it, don't resort to hitting.
Children learn from disciplined discipline- hitting a child is undisciplined discipline.
I feel sad for anyone who got beat, I haven't and I find it really sad :frown:
But why do you not rival against it, would you seriously smack the fuck out of a 5 year old child because all he/she did was ask for a fucking ice-cream at the shops?
I voted yes, but meant to vote no
actually I'm not sure where I stand on it
I find it hard to believe you read my entire post before posting a reply, Stephen. :P
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But why do you not rival against it, would you seriously smack the fuck out of a 5 year old child because all he/she did was ask for a fucking ice-cream at the shops?[/QUOTE]
I would, hell I do it all the time
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But why do you not rival against it, would you seriously smack the fuck out of a 5 year old child because all he/she did was ask for a fucking ice-cream at the shops?[/QUOTE]
Read my post. Why the hell don't people read the OP? Jesus.
I also meant to vote no.
[QUOTE=archangel125;24210666]Read my post. Why the hell don't people read the OP? Jesus.[/QUOTE]
No tl;dr because I can't be fucked reading that.
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Pretty much what Stephen said, if you need to discipline the kids by force you're doing shit wrong in the first place. But things like this is highly circumstantial, so who knows, a situation might arise where it is the proper response, even if by your own incompetence as a parent. So "Yes" for now.
But I don't endorse it in any way.
Guys, there's a difference between disciplining and abuse.
Kicking the shit out of a kid is always abuse. Beating a kid for trivial stuff is also abuse.
I used to get a slap if I was being a little shit which from the sounds of what my parents said I've deserved on more than one occasion but I've not grown up into some psychopath so I suppose a quick slap on the wrist or the back of the head didn't do any harm.
We can't really get a proper answer on this topic because what we, westeners consider wrong may be something people living in the east consider mainstream. And under some circumstances, it may be acceptable to use corporal punishment, but with limits. A slight slap on the arm, nothing too severe. I personally haven't gone through beating, but it can SOME, LIMITED times be acceptable. The problem is that excessive use can lead to the opposite effect...
No. All it does is stick the idea in their head that violence is a acceptable way to deal with things. Especially at young ages when children are so impressionable.
You must remember while it seems innocent even if used "correctly", it's not just about disciplining the kid, it's also about teaching them to solve their problems with the very same violence you are seen solving your problems with. Like father like son. Behave like you would see your children behave themselves.
[QUOTE=CounterTunes;24210686]No tl;dr because I can't be fucked reading that.[/QUOTE]
you're a good poster
I remember a time when I was 10 that I got the shit beaten out of me for asking for a dollar to get something at the store. That was like 9 years ago, and my parents wonder why I have anger issues. :v:
A little discipline lasts much longer than the sting of a slap.
I never was beaten by my parents, especially not with tools like towels, belts or anything like that. The only beating I ever recived were some soft slaps, which also is the only thing ok in my opinion. People who use belts or anything like that should simply lose their kids. Even if the kids come in an orphanage, it would be better, seriously.
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;24210809]you're a good poster[/QUOTE]
1:15am man, I don't read that much now.
Then sleep and don't post.
[QUOTE=BmB;24210787]You must remember while it seems innocent even if used "correctly", it's not just about disciplining the kid, it's also about teaching them to solve their problems with the very same violence you are seen solving your problems with.[/QUOTE]
Good point, but I've been hit as a kid, and I don't look at solving problems with violence. As for the men who beat their spouses and partners, they're scum in my eyes. When it's discipline, it doesn't necessarily leave a bad impression. When it's abuse, then yes, it does.
When I was a kid I would get spanked by hand and a wooden spoon. It was for things like drawing on the walls and stuff. I think corporal punishment is fine.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;24210826]I never was beaten by my parents, especially not with tools like towels, belts or anything like that. The only beating I ever recived were some soft slaps, which also is the only thing ok in my opinion. People who use belts or anything like that should simply lose their kids. Even if the kids come in an orphanage, it would be better, seriously.[/QUOTE]
My parents used a fucking horse whip.
and you guys act like when you get disciplined you're getting the shit kicked out of you and this is not the case.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;24210864]My parents used a fucking horse whip.[/QUOTE]
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broke mah automerge
I probably wouldn't hit my own kids, but I'm saying that it's not always a horrible, horrible thing. It wasn't in my upbringing.
goddamn ninjas
Doing anything like that to your kid is fucking disgusting and anyone who does it is a sick fuck who shouldn't have kids. If your only way of telling your child not to do something again is to physically hurt them, then just dont have had a child in the first place.
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