[QUOTE=Robbobin;24215002]What the fuck would possess someone to inflict pain purposefully on their damn children.[/QUOTE]
Love.
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If corporal punishment was allowed, then you do realize that any parent can probably beat their child and call it corporal punishment. Because of this abuse will be down the drain. Nobody should ever lay a hand on a child, ever. It might not have traumatized you, but it can traumatize other children. Your only thinking it should be allowed because you, yourself don't think it's horrible because you turned out alright from it, what if this was allowed and not everyone turns out alright?
I've been smacked across the head as a kid for doing stupid shit like breaking someone else's stuff or setting fire.
Never has my dad put as much as a finger on me when I whined for anything.
I'll do the exact same to my kid when it does stupid shit on purpose.
I do think there's a thin line between abuse and a correcting fiver to the head.
Abuse being mom or dad using fists to twat you one in the face instead of an openhanded smack on the back of the head.
Meant to press no, shit
Corporal Punishment should be taken as seriously as hitting a dog on the nose with a newspaper when he does something bad.
You're trying to train your child to be a better person by letting them know that there are harsh consequences for when they fuck up. They'll eventually stop fucking up because they don't want to get hit. It's as simple as that.
You're not supposed to full on kick the kid's ass but spanking or a slap upside the head every once in a while would do them good.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;24210923]How is spanking a naughty child disgusting? And how does it make it so you don't deserve kids?[/QUOTE]
because you inflict pain in one who can not defend himself
The odd slap on the wrist or smack on the arse for a good reason is fine. But using a belt is taking it too far in my opinion.
There's a big difference between the belt/spank and beating the shit out of them.
When I was little, I was punished by my parents with one of those rubber spatulas.
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I think you can punish them without physical use, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Mad Chatter;24216406]Corporal Punishment should be taken as seriously as hitting a dog on the nose with a newspaper when he does something bad.
You're trying to train your child to be a better person by letting them know that there are harsh consequences for when they fuck up. They'll eventually stop fucking up because they don't want to get hit. It's as simple as that.
You're not supposed to full on kick the kid's ass but spanking or a slap upside the head every once in a while would do them good.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't teach anyone not to fuck up. It teaches them not to do things of their own free will.
[QUOTE=Rooster Assassin;24217036]I think you can punish them without physical use, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
Physical or otherwise you shouldn't need to punish a child.
Let them punish themselves.
I remember getting spanked by my grandfather in the parking lot, god he was strong :saddowns:
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[QUOTE=BmB;24217059]Physical or otherwise you shouldn't need to punish a child.
Let them punish themselves.[/QUOTE]
Well, when I say punish, I mean, maybe tell them whats wrong, why not to do it, etc. Unless they're too young, in which that case I have no real idea.
[QUOTE=Nekrietns;24216247]I've been smacked across the head as a kid for doing stupid shit like breaking someone else's stuff or setting fire.
Never has my dad put as much as a finger on me when I whined for anything.
I'll do the exact same to my kid when it does stupid shit on purpose.
I do think there's a thin line between abuse and a correcting fiver to the head.
Abuse being mom or dad using fists to twat you one in the face instead of an openhanded smack on the back of the head.[/QUOTE]
See:
[QUOTE=BmB;24210949]Oh yeah eh, of course if you got it yourself you are most likely inclined to think it's okay, as it was defined as normality to you, then you are also very likely to pass the suffering on to your own children, this is why it is enforcedly illegal to beat children in many countries, the parent's are simply completely incapable of seeing the wrong in it without legal "encouragement".
Please realize and distance yourself from this phenomenon, see through the veil of your own perception before taking a stance.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rooster Assassin;24217065]I remember getting spanked by my grandfather in the parking lot, god he was strong :saddowns:
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Well, when I say punish, I mean, maybe tell them whats wrong, why not to do it, etc. Unless they're too young, in which that case I have no real idea.[/QUOTE]
Words are silent, actions are loud. But that doesn't mean the answer is to use actions against your child. It means to let them find out through interaction why something is wrong. They're not going to get shit if you sit them down and talk it over. They'll be bored and the only reason they won't do it next time is to avoid having to sit through your boring speeches of boring boredom ever again. So we're back to meaningless punishment.
Well, if you absolutely have to(such as due to all other forms of discipline failing), corporal punishment has proven to be rather effective. If you go too far it'll end up mentally scarring the child though, so just a few strong whacks, but nothing that'll see them limping the next day.
[QUOTE=BmB;24217037]That doesn't teach anyone not to fuck up. It teaches them not to do things of their own free will.[/QUOTE]
Er, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It taught me not to fuck up, and I do everything I do these days of my own free will.
Before I can articulate a proper response please elaborate on "fuck up", an anecdote from your life if you are not too enamoured with privacy.
Smacking kids in the ass because they did something naughty sounds disturbing to me.
[QUOTE=Egg_Toaster;24217287]Smacking kids in the ass because they did something naughty sounds disturbing to me.[/QUOTE]
You're a naughty boy. Oh, you're a [i]very[/i] naughty boy. Bend over so I can spank you, you've been very bad.
[QUOTE=BmB;24217257]Before I can articulate a proper response please elaborate on "fuck up", an anecdote from your life if you are not too enamoured with privacy.[/QUOTE]
I was told to put stuff away after I'd used it when I was seven or eight. I was told this politely several times. They even grounded me a few times, but I didn't get the point. Finally, I got a couple of straps with the belt, and decided it was time I made the effort to improve, if only to avoid the stinging belt again. And now I'm glad I did. They didn't hit me more than twice with the damn thing, but it got the point across when nothing else did. Do I resent it? No. It stung only a little more than a slap would, and it did no damage at all. My reason for improving then might have been just to avoid the punishment, but now I'm glad my parents got me into the habit of doing it, or I'd be very, very disorganized and inconsiderate. They only ever used it when I was being an asshole for no good reason, as kids are wont to do. The result? I care more about how others feel now and I have learned the value of diplomacy and compromise in any conflict.
ask yourself why everybody who has got beaten as a child says corporal punishment is ok.
(my dad also slapped me from time to time when iw as young)
I find it ridiculous that people who have never experienced corporal punishment can say that it's such a terrible thing. If parents don't go overboard with it (and most don't) there isn't really a problem.
My mother used to beat me as a child and now I'm a rapist. I like to give those whores the same treatment my mother gave me, except sometimes I get carried away. I hate all women.
Oh and yes, I totally agree with corporal punishment. It allows people to become more socially adjusted and is generally a good idea.
I think too many people can't differentiate between corporal punishment and child abuse. Corporal punishment is fine, why do you think your parents and grandparents (should have) turned out so respectful? They got punished if they did something wrong. From a young age they drew the association between wrongdoing and pain because they were chastised for doing something wrong, and as such didn't do anything wrong so they wouldn't get hit.
Too many kids and teens nowadays are disrespectful cunts because their parents think that any form of discipline, especially the more effective but harsh forms, is child abuse, and unfortunately because so many other people draw the same conclusion they get scared to punish their child properly due to not wanting to be charged and lose their kids.
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;24217615]My mother used to beat me as a child and now I'm a rapist. I like to give those whores the same treatment my mother gave me, except sometimes I get carried away. I hate all women.
Oh and yes, I totally agree with corporal punishment. It allows people to become more socially adjusted and is generally a good idea.[/QUOTE]
Internet sarcasm is not good sarcasm.
[QUOTE=archangel125;24217601]I find it ridiculous that people who have never experienced corporal punishment can say that it's such a terrible thing. If parents don't go overboard with it (and most don't) there isn't really a problem.[/QUOTE]
Yes there is. Physically hitting kids, even without overdoing it, is not helping anyone.
It's an easy way out of educating your kid.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;24217721]Yes there is. Physically hitting kids, even without overdoing it, is not helping anyone.
It's an easy way out of educating your kid.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is. Even if it's not considered educating, it gets kids into the habit of doing the right thing.
I'd rather explain why it's wrong to set fire to paper through an explanation that is both educational and a moral lesson, instead of beating my child for being interested in 'funny objects'.
i got beat when i deserved it.
Is it a good discipline, but just like everything else, you must not overdo it.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24217806]I'd rather explain why it's wrong to set fire to paper through an explanation that is both educational and a moral lesson, instead of beating my child for being interested in 'funny objects'.[/QUOTE]
I said in my OP that it's not right if the kid doesn't know why he's being punished. Nobody reads shit anymore.
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