• The U.S. are drifting towards fascism
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Being a true patriot can make you ignorant.
[QUOTE=Stalk;28691080]Being a true patriot can make you ignorant.[/QUOTE]So can not listening to your government. I'm not saying to trust or hate the government, I'm saying we have to listen to get by.
You're overreacting the House is Republican for like 3 more years that's silly.
I don't think we're alone here.
Almost all of those things that you listed have decreased significantly since the 1950s. We're nowhere near as nationalist as we were during the McCarthy era, where artists, public health services, unions, and non-Christians were all labeled as Communist.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;28690309] See: most of the international affairs the U.S. have decided to take care of, [b]the point of view of most American citizens[/b] on the ongoing Japan nuclear affair (it's payback for Pearl Harbor! :downs:) [/QUOTE] That is not the view point of most American citizens; that is the view point of a few people being stupid or sarcastic on Facebook. I haven't heard a single person say anything about Pearl Harbor, only about how terrible the situation is. You might want to make an argument that isn't an incorrect generalization next time.
This entire thread is either filled with: A. Lies B. Misinformation C. Grossly exaggerated Just because the U.S. has some conservative characteristics does not mean it is fascist or becoming fascist. It is nothing even close to fascist.
Honestly, I believe America is going to head towards a more liberal viewpoint because of our generation. A lot of these problems may change.
Stopped reading at the "rampant sexism" part. Maybe the higher ups in America are sexist, but for the everyman, a woman is god and a man is dirt.
[QUOTE=Troll?;28690691]Drifting? Really? :v:[/QUOTE] Your avatar fits beyond belief.
Oh, and when you refer to the United States, even though States is plural, you refer to it in singular form, so it would be The U.S. is drifting, not are drifting.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;28692188]Stopped reading at the "rampant sexism" part. Maybe the higher ups in America are sexist, but for the everyman, a woman is god and a man is dirt.[/QUOTE] Isn't that still sexism? I don't live in America and it's completely untrue here, but still. [b]E:[/b] I was wrong up there, actually: feminists are dumb and irrelevant but for me to act like there isn't discrimination against women here is wrong. Women are something like one out of every ten in my country (Ireland's) parliament and one very plausible reason the opposition spokesperson for finance didn't get a finance job when they won the election was because she happened to be a woman.
FYI fascism is not the opposite of democracy. Democracy ain't all that golden either.
Fascism is capitalism in decay.
I can't really talk shit cause I ain't american, but looking to america, I always find it kinda ridiculous how politics work there. And god damn is it on the right.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;28692188]Stopped reading at the "rampant sexism" part. Maybe the higher ups in America are sexist, but for the everyman, a woman is god and a man is dirt.[/QUOTE] stop watching stupid commercials marketed towards women because in the real world that's not even close to true [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Denicide;28692310]feminists are dumb and irrelevant [/QUOTE] pfff you don't even know me
The United States ARE drifting towards fascism? Come on OP, at least make the thread title grammatically correct before you go on a rant.
You guys should stay out of Texas now. Rick Perry has fucked our state budget wild and our schools are losing millions of dollars by the minute. Do you know why? He wants to pass laws that require sonograms before getting abortions, and voter IDs. He gives no flying shit about the school system. [QUOTE=Sand;28700880]The United States ARE drifting towards fascism? Come on OP, at least make the thread title grammatically correct before you go on a rant.[/QUOTE] The name "United States" is plural. Why should he not use the pluralized conjugation of the verb?
[QUOTE=Bathacker;28690499]I'm moving to Canada ASAP anyway, so v:v:v[/QUOTE] I'm moving to Sweden the first chance I get. The whole government system there seems great and all you Swedes on Facepunch seem like pretty cool guys.
i told you guys the us was rising as fascists. the uneven distribution of wealth is unnerving
I really see how both the left and the right are doing pretty much everything on that list. I'm scared for my country. :ohdear:
You dont even live in the U.S.
You have no idea what fascism is, do you? The fact that you brought up corporate power shows that. If corporations have power, then why the fuck are you telling us a dictator has power? You speak of scape goat evils for unifying causes, and yet you use the word fascism as exactly that.
Thinking about it, I really don't have a proper understanding of what fascism is. I tried wiki'ing it and all it says is that the definition of fascism is highly disputed.
Left-Right Paradigm...look it up
I know this probably isn't my ground to speak... I've got some respect for Fascism to be honest. I don't endorse people using it to press things which are inhumane, but unifying everyone under one seldom group, and getting people to work together is something I have respect for.
[QUOTE=Cpt.Lavender;28703938]Left-Right Paradigm...look it up[/QUOTE] I feel that saying that fascism is simply far right isn't adequate.
Oh man I can't wait for revolution. Political assassinations, rioting, battle, the installation of a better government. Smells like blood, gunpowder, and freedom.
Sounds like more angsty teens thinking they know what's going on in the country and know how to fix it. Maybe you didn't take the time to look back, but you're acting like we were fine before, and we're now heading in the wrong direction. Xenophobia, sexism, higher military budget, violating human rights and pretty much everything that you've listed have been problems in the USA and in a lot of other places in the world for decades. These are not new concepts that are getting any worse than they were before. I think mass media does have a lot to do with it now and now that we can easily communicate globaly, we're now being compared and judged. [editline]20th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=VistaPOWA;28690432]The concept of the separation of state and church starting to disappear in the U.S, and the xenophobia is a big problem too.[/QUOTE] Again, was that line of separation really there before? Many years ago was when evolution was seen as wrong in almost every school and teaching the Bible in a public school was nothing out of the ordinary. If anything, we're starting to enforce it more today
The US is not becoming a fascist state and won't become one because her people won't allow it. However you could say that the US is controlled by many multi-national corporations with tons of capital and money to spend. They have the power to influence the US and the media through spending power. The problem is not the US becoming fascist but rather the power the super wealthy have over the country. For example the World Trade Organization, IMF, World Bank, and religious groups (the church) have self appointed leaders and have significant influence on our governments. We did not elect these people yet they influence our government based on the capital they own. That is the true problem today. How can it truly be a democracy if people we did not elect have power in our government. I'm Canadian btw
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