• The U.S. are drifting towards fascism
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Oh fuck you're right. [editline]20th March 2011[/editline] 900th post woot :pcgaming:
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[QUOTE=amcfaggot;28720365]Liberal forums, liberal thread, liberal ratings.[/QUOTE] how liberal is dat box
[img]http://bullmurph.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/its_not_fascism_when_we_do_it.jpg[/img]
^^^ i wear that exact same uniform around my house
I mostly agree with OP, America will eventually become a fascist state under the disguise of a democracy, and this process has been going on for a while now. It's the only way to hold their regime longer, now that in the future years global economy will be in the verge of collapse. And also, do americans sincerely believe the democrats and the republicans are any different? For me it seems obvious they share the same interests and that the democratic system in the US is no different at all from the PRC voting system. If you remove all the democrat/republican signs, propaganda, campaigns, fanaticism you're left with the same people. It's like voting for a single huge party that pretends to be two parties so you think "Holy shit! democracy!". (Well, actually that's what happens). But that perhaps is just me.
In my opinion, corporation directed government is much more plausible than actual fascism.
Honestly, as "immoral" or "bad" as fascism is said to be I think it's the only form of government that could sustain an extremely large population. If the entire planet was united under a single fascist government things would run much better in the long run then dicking around with the UN and whatnot.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;28714466]All revolutions are engineered, and all end up with the same despot as before.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.visitingdc.com/images/george-washington-picture.jpg[/img] I think this guy would disagree.
Remember those times the US descended down a slippery slope into fascism after banning alcohol, outlawing criticism of the government, or putting all the Japanese citizens into camps? Neither do I. Considering most of the fascist and tyrannical regimes throughout history were the result of revolution and not evolution, I'm beginning to think the slippery slope doesn't really exist at all. Can you imagine what would have happened if we tried to put the Muslims into internment camps after 9/11? If anything, we're more free than we've ever been. [editline]21st March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;28722745][img_thumb]http://www.visitingdc.com/images/george-washington-picture.jpg[/img_thumb] I think this guy would disagree.[/QUOTE] A war of independence isn't really the same thing as a civil war.
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;28720146]Whoever thinks the japan situation is 'payback for pearl harbor' needs a punch in the mouth. It's not like we nuked them twice or anything.[/QUOTE] Its not like Japan fucked over China or anything
[QUOTE=Mingebox;28722964]Remember those times the US descended down a slippery slope into fascism after banning alcohol, outlawing criticism of the government, or putting all the Japanese citizens into camps? Neither do I. Considering most of the fascist and tyrannical regimes throughout history were the result of revolution and not evolution, I'm beginning to think the slippery slope doesn't really exist at all. Can you imagine what would have happened if we tried to put the Muslims into internment camps after 9/11? If anything, we're more free than we've ever been. [editline]21st March 2011[/editline] A war of independence isn't really the same thing as a civil war.[/QUOTE] They're practically identical. They both wish to lift off their perceived shackles of oppression. They both involve violent conflict against established governmental authorities. The only difference is one divorces itself from their former government, while the other assumes the roll of their former government.
I've met a few racists, but never ones that would go to the point of killing another person based on race. They just think shit like Mexicans can't drive and Asians have horizontal vaginas.
The topic that shocks me the most is complete control over the media. Huge conglomerates and corporations with all the bank influencing what people are exposed to. So much so that it becomes a part of American society, tradition and values. Who ever said it was alright to go to a child arcade that had an ugly-ass rat as a mascot? They have gone so far as to control even the very suburban and urban areas in which we live. They control where we go, eat, sleep, buy and relax. To the very transportation system we use, they have thought of way before. (IE such as crosswalks for example. The poor being ostracized for having no money through the means of psychological humiliation by making them walk infront of all the vehicles. How about bus stops where the poor are labeled in society as losers and have to sit on the loser bench to wait for the minority bus?) I wouldn't be so pissed if my old-school parents weren't so brainwashed to believe that everything around them and what they watch on television is completely normal. It. Fucking. Isn't. Being an artist, I have to have a thought process that is free of bias and control. It really is hard to live this way when everyone and everything around you is trying to make you conform to their ideals. Our last chance is the INTERNET and even that freedom, is under attack. I have only lived in the United States for about ten years and I have found that shit is really fucked up here. Career and life choice wise. Police, and the justice system, a huge trap. Jobs to work you to death like slaves. It's real awesome. If it weren't for the pretty girls and the genuinely nice people here, I wouldn't stay.
[QUOTE=mzathemind;28723194]Asians have horizontal vaginas.[/QUOTE] What the Fuck? On topic yeah I've noticed a lot of Facist like traits recently.
[QUOTE=jeimizu;28691579]Almost all of those things that you listed have decreased significantly since the 1950s. We're nowhere near as nationalist as we were during the McCarthy era, where artists, public health services, unions, and non-Christians were all labeled as Communist.[/QUOTE] That may be true, but instead now it's changing into a mentally-defective and fanatically stupid-run governement. I mean start ripping rights from people without even talking to the other parties and you know something is bound to go ver very wrong.
I live in america and literally none of this effects me in any way [editline]21st March 2011[/editline] stop fucking complaining and do something about it if you're so "worried"
I'm sorry, but I feel that your view of the country is a bit skewed. You seem to envision some kind of Republican wet dream as reality, which just isn't true. The fact of the matter is that all governments exist to control people, and the biggest criterion for being a government in the eyes of the people is a monopoly on violence. Besides, we're not really competent enough to create a working fascist government. You give us too much credit
When will people learn that both extremes of the left and right will NEVER FUCKING WORK!
No one has gone to jail for crashing the world economy, torture or unconstitutional wiretaps. There is however room in our jails for people who share files or smoke pot. This is not a justice system. It is an exploitation system.
DRIFTING? Hell, we're already there.
[QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;28723115]They're practically identical. They both wish to lift off their perceived shackles of oppression. They both involve violent conflict against established governmental authorities. The only difference is one divorces itself from their former government, while the other assumes the roll of their former government.[/QUOTE] No, there's a huge difference between rebelling against a government that's thousands of miles and months of travel away, and rebelling against one for control of the same country. [editline]21st March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=sHiBaN;28723344] (IE such as crosswalks for example. The poor being ostracized for having no money through the means of psychological humiliation by making them walk infront of all the vehicles. How about bus stops where the poor are labeled in society as losers and have to sit on the loser bench to wait for the minority bus?) [/QUOTE] What are you smoking?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;28714466]All revolutions are engineered, and all end up with the same despot as before.[/QUOTE] So the American and French Revolutions never happened? If I recall my schooling correctly both replaced Monarchies with Democracies. The Russian Revolution too, though that was all Communism.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;28723344]IE such as crosswalks for example. The poor being ostracized for having no money through the means of psychological humiliation by making them walk infront of all the vehicles. How about bus stops where the poor are labeled in society as losers and have to sit on the loser bench to wait for the minority bus?[/QUOTE] What the fuck did you smoke before writing this?
Guys just make me dictator and you won't need to worry about anything, or your silly little "freedom" either, I'll enslave everyone. J!NX 2012.
We are fucked
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;28728392]So the American and French Revolutions never happened? If I recall my schooling correctly both replaced Monarchies with Democracies. The Russian Revolution too, though that was all Communism.[/QUOTE] They changed the government in name, not in how it was actually ran. France had a revolution, getting rid of a king and putting a emperor (Napoleon) in charge. America had a war of independence that replaced the rich landed gentlemen in England with the rich landed gentlemen in America. Russia had a revolution, replacing a autocratic Tsar seen as almighty with a autocratic dictator that was seen as almighty. In each case it was simply that the people just below the rulers (Rich and nobility) simply stopped supporting the ruler and let/encouraged/directly caused a revolution to happen. Essentially all revolutions happen from above, rather than from below.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;28728392]So the American and [B]French Revolutions[/B] never happened? If I recall my schooling correctly both replaced Monarchies with Democracies. The Russian Revolution too, though that was all Communism.[/QUOTE] Reign of Terror? [editline]21st March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;28728928] Essentially all revolutions happen from above, rather than from below.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say it's so much that as that environment brought on by revolutions are perfect for people with extremist ideas to grab power.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;28723344]To the very transportation system we use, they have thought of way before. (IE such as crosswalks for example. The poor being ostracized for having no money through the means of psychological humiliation by making them walk infront of all the vehicles. How about bus stops where the poor are labeled in society as losers and have to sit on the loser bench to wait for the minority bus?)[/QUOTE] I, too, wish to overthrow oppressive crosswalks. I have had it with their systematic hatred for the working class and minorities (And losers.) Have you ever seen a crosswalk that wasn't white? Exactly.
I wasn't aware FP had so many political proffessionals.
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