• What's your opinion on Abortion?‎
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The thing is no wonder we are being overrun with immagrants in the Uk, since abortion has been legalised more than 4 million abortions have happened, if they hadn't happened or the child was given up for adoption we wouldn't be in such a mess. I blame the rubbish adoption system that means it's so difficult for couples to get a baby.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;19012287]I don't think being pregnant for 9 months is very pleasant. Again, there would be no less life if the dad had used a condom. [editline]07:18PM[/editline] Around 50% of pregnancies end in miscarriage anyways (most of them before 2 weeks of pregnancy has passed).[/QUOTE] So it's not pleasant, Alot of things aren't fucking pleasant. I don't like my child does that mean I should be able to kill it? no
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012263]Does that make it okay to kill a baby? Just because things die doesn't mean everything should.[/QUOTE] You can only perform abortion from the day of impregnation to a certain week. According to me, an embryo can't be called a person.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;19012287]I don't think being pregnant for 9 months is very pleasant. Again, there would be no less life if the dad had used a condom. [editline]07:18PM[/editline] Around 50% of pregnancies end in miscarriage anyways (most of them before 2 weeks of pregnancy has passed).[/QUOTE] And? how does that make it okay to kill something?
[QUOTE=SenorJose;19012323]The thing is no wonder we are being overrun with immagrants in the Uk, since abortion has been legalised more than 4 million abortions have happened, if they hadn't happened or the child was given up for adoption we wouldn't be in such a mess. I blame the rubbish adoption system that means it's so difficult for couples to get a baby.[/QUOTE] So now you're mixing a bit of racism in a discussion about abortion. Good job... [editline]07:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012343]And? how does that make it okay to kill something?[/QUOTE] Because that thing is not sentient nor able to feel any pain.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;19012330]You can only perform abortion from the day of impregnation to a certain week. According to me, an embryo can't be called a person.[/QUOTE] Why does something have to be a person to have meaning, Or purpose?
I think a more appropriate name for Anti-Abortionists is [B]Anti-Choice[/B]. There's already loads of kids up for adoption, we don't need more unloved, unwanted children. I think of it this way, if a condom fails then abortion is just a back up means to the same end.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;19012286]No not really, but I wouldn't call an embryo a person.[/QUOTE] Everyone alive has been one, so no matter how cheesy it might sound; how would you feel if you were killed before you were born. (ignoring the fact that if there's no afterlife you wouldn't care at all)
[QUOTE=SenorJose;19012323]The thing is no wonder we are being overrun with immagrants in the Uk, since abortion has been legalised more than 4 million abortions have happened, if they hadn't happened or the child was given up for adoption we wouldn't be in such a mess. I blame the rubbish adoption system that means it's so difficult for couples to get a baby.[/QUOTE] You're mixing racial matters into this? What do you mean by "overrun with immigrants"?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;19012348]So now you're mixing a bit of racism in a discussion about abortion. Good job... [editline]07:20PM[/editline] Because that thing is not sentient nor able to feel any pain.[/QUOTE] I didn't mean to sound racist but everyone over here is pissed because of all this illegal immigration happening and look what is the cause of it. There is nothing wrong with immigration it's just gotten out of control and the laws about it are far too lax.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;19012348]So now you're mixing a bit of racism in a discussion about abortion. Good job... [editline]07:20PM[/editline] Because that thing is not sentient nor able to feel any pain.[/QUOTE] It doesn't have our level of intelligence, that doesn't grant us a license to kill.
[QUOTE=SenorJose;19012367]Everyone alive has been one, so no matter how cheesy it might sound; how would you feel if you were killed before you were born. (ignoring the fact that if there's no afterlife you wouldn't care at all)[/QUOTE] Everyone alive has been a sperm cell. Does that mean masturbation is wrong? [editline]07:23PM[/editline] [QUOTE=SenorJose;19012381]I didn't mean to sound racist but everyone over here is pissed because of all this illegal immigration happening and look what is the cause of it.[/QUOTE] How the fuck can you say abortion is the cause of immigration? Are you fucking retarded?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;19012390]Everyone alive has been a sperm cell. Does that mean masturbation is wrong?[/QUOTE] It's wrong anyway, but it's not murder because no intercourse has happened. It's difficult to explain.
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012387]It doesn't have our level of intelligence, that doesn't grant us a license to kill.[/QUOTE] It has no intelligence, it is not able to think, nor feel pain. It was not meant to be born, so aborting it is not any different from never getting pregnant.
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012362]Why does something have to be a person to have meaning, Or purpose?[/QUOTE] Since we are talking about abortions I think it's reasonable to talk about persons/life/human. You want me to talk about tree branches instead?
I am agaisnt Condoms.
You know people have been charged for killing unborn babies. If you can get jailed for that, why is it okay for docters to murder babies?
[QUOTE=SenorJose;19012411]It's wrong anyway, but it's not murder because no intercourse has happened. It's difficult to explain.[/QUOTE] I suspect you are religious.
[QUOTE=SenorJose;19012411]It's wrong anyway, but it's not murder because no intercourse has happened. It's difficult to explain.[/QUOTE] It's difficult to explain because it makes no fucking sense. Are you religious?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;19012390]Everyone alive has been a sperm cell. Does that mean masturbation is wrong? [editline]07:23PM[/editline] How the fuck can you say abortion is the cause of immigration? Are you fucking retarded?[/QUOTE] urgh, i'm not great at putting things into words, don't flame me because i'm trying to reply quickly. I know it's no excuse.
[QUOTE=SenorJose;19012151]Your own body? it's a person inside you, genius.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.fredcamper.com/PF/Friedrich/01.jpg[/img] No, mummy! Don't kill me! It's not like I'm significantly different to the egg you menstruate every month and one of the countless spermatozoa that daddy flushes down the loo when he's got time on his hands but don't kill me!
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012438]You know people have been charged for killing unborn babies. If you can get jailed for that, why is it okay for docters to murder babies?[/QUOTE] You know people have been charged for selling pirated movies. If you can get jailed for that, why is it okay for Blockbuster to sell DVD's?
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012438]You know people have been charged for killing unborn babies. If you can get jailed for that, why is it okay for docters to murder babies?[/QUOTE] Because the doctors get the mother's consent, and because they're doctors, so they know their shit. I don't think everyone can legally perform an abortion. People would also get charged for performing amateur surgery, but that doesn't mean doctors can't do it.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;19012450]It's difficult to explain because it makes no fucking sense. Are you religious?[/QUOTE] Yes I am and don't start jumping on the bandwagon 'religion is retarded hurr' I'm not the pope, i'm just a stupid kid so don't expect me to know everything.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;19012445]I suspect you are religious.[/QUOTE] I love how you act religion effects someones opinion, I suspect you are atheist.
I know i'm digging myself a hole here so if you don't mind i'm going to leave before I make myself look like an even bigger ass.
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012482]I love how you act religion effects someones opinion, I suspect you are atheist.[/QUOTE] Effects someones opinion? I don't know what you are talking about, but I find it strange that a person can think that masturbation is wrong, hence wondering if he was religious.
I support it. I still don't understand why religious nuts see any reason to be against it, their logic so far is comparable to accusing me of murder because I'm not having all the babies I could be having 24/7.
[QUOTE=SenorJose;19012367]Everyone alive has been one, so no matter how cheesy it might sound; how would you feel if you were killed before you were born. (ignoring the fact that if there's no afterlife you wouldn't care at all)[/QUOTE] Well if I would have been aware of the situation, I'd sure have protested. If I was the child of a rape, then I'd rather get aborted.
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19012482]I love how you act religion effects someones opinion, I suspect you are atheist.[/QUOTE] He is basing his moral judgement by how much people suffer and not by an arbitrary definition of what a person is. Sounds like a quite intelligent thing to do.
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