• Dr. Alex Jones; Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love FEMA - A look at the NWO Theory
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[QUOTE=ifaux;30322378]The Badage Boys are..back..in town?[/QUOTE] The Badage Boys are a gubment plot to make our inturnet postins dumer so we don't catch on to their weather bloon and swamp gas cover ups :tinfoil:.
[QUOTE=ifaux;30322378]The Badage Boys are..back..in town?[/QUOTE] No, sadly. I would know, I helped create 'em. [editline]edit[/editline] The story, that is.
[QUOTE=Jenkem;30295086]What...? Undesirables, as in weaker, diseased/defective people (possibly in a more subtle way, genetically for instance). You'll have some unfortunate byproducts, such as people caught between both extremes and cursed with something like autism, but in the end you pretty much would be working out all the weaker people by poisoning them. When they die off, all you have left are the stronger genetic makeups. It's not too far from possibility if you think about it. Look how many wars we're getting into these days, like some kind of disgusting sport...sick people won't be able to fight them, hey?[/QUOTE] So the government is supposedly using vaccines to make people weaker, the same vaccines that they're apparently using as part of a covert eugenics program to make people stronger. Sounds legit.
[QUOTE=amute;30332440]Hemp, even in areas of legality, are not as effienent as he makes it out to be. [/QUOTE] Our ancestors used it for at least the past 5000 years for everything without damaging the Earth at all, recently we have stopped using it, therefore we rape the Earth for replacement materials that aren't as efficient and create more pollution. If you haven't yet, then watch Jack Herer: The Emperor Of Hemp, look up some stuff for yourself and make your own mind up about the world we live in.
[QUOTE=rukiddingme;30336639]Our ancestors used it for at least the past 5000 years for everything without damaging the Earth at all, recently we have stopped using it, therefore we rape the Earth for replacement materials that aren't as efficient and create more pollution. If you haven't yet, then watch Jack Herer: The Emperor Of Hemp, look up some stuff for yourself and make your own mind up about the world we live in.[/QUOTE] Our ancestors didn't rape the earth as they didn't have as high resource requirements. They didn't go through tons of metals, minerals, etc. It has fuck all to do with hemp. Besides, they damaged the Earth through their methods of using the resources.
Okay, here's something you don't seem to understand - Humans still fucking use it. I don't think the climate crisis has to do with the lack of hemp production. It has more to do with carcinogens and green house gases, which btw, will be contributed to by machines like decorticators. Hemp is good, but it's not AS good as you're making it out to be. Cotton production is similar in many ways to hemp production. Both are materials you cultivate and weave. And explain this shit to me: Through the industrial revolution, and up until the 19-fucking-70's, the enviroment had been butchered. YET, Hemp was still widely used and distributed. I like how you're saying I need to make up my own mind yet the ONLY opinions you've presented is stuff some hacks said. Good job, boyo. You see, what I've done is, present facts and sources for your claims, that's something called researching, normally the sign of a person trying to formulate their own opinion. You have posted the opinions of only two people, defended it still after I refuted it, and told me to watch it again, as if that means something. That's a person who is stubborn, ignorant and can't think for themselves.
[QUOTE=amute;30337608]Okay, here's something you don't seem to understand - Humans still fucking use it. I don't think the climate crisis has to do with the lack of hemp production. It has more to do with carcinogens and green house gases, which btw, will be contributed to by machines like decorticators. Hemp is good, but it's not AS good as you're making it out to be. Cotton production is similar in many ways to hemp production. Both are materials you cultivate and weave. And explain this shit to me: Through the industrial revolution, and up until the 19-fucking-70's, the enviroment had been butchered. YET, Hemp was still widely used and distributed. I like how you're saying I need to make up my own mind yet the ONLY opinions you've presented is stuff some hacks said. Good job, boyo. You see, what I've done is, present facts and sources for your claims, that's something called researching, normally the sign of a person trying to formulate their own opinion. You have posted the opinions of only two people, defended it still after I refuted it, and told me to watch it again, as if that means something. That's a person who is stubborn, ignorant and can't think for themselves.[/QUOTE] Give this man an award, I don't care which one, [i]just give it to him[/i].
I think our government's lack of an ability to function is the result of stupidity rather than corruption.
[QUOTE=HyyperVyyper;30350287]I think our government's lack of an ability to function is the result of stupidity rather than corruption.[/QUOTE] I always thought it was because of conflicting interests and lack of efficiency that any group of human beings would have.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;30352523]I always thought it was because of conflicting interests and lack of efficiency that any group of human beings would have.[/QUOTE] This is truly why. [editline]9th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=HyyperVyyper;30350287]I think our government's lack of an ability to function is the result of stupidity rather than corruption.[/QUOTE] This is also why.
A thing I've been wondering: Why do the masterminds of these conspiracies always say what they're doing by hiding secret messages everywhere? Doesn't sound like the best way to keep something a secret.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;30352716]A thing I've been wondering: Why do the masterminds of these conspiracies always say what they're doing by hiding secret messages everywhere? Doesn't sound like the best way to keep something a secret.[/QUOTE] I often wonder if why if they're supposedly in control of everything then why wouldn't they just have them killed or just censor them.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;30352716]A thing I've been wondering: Why do the masterminds of these conspiracies always say what they're doing by hiding secret messages everywhere? Doesn't sound like the best way to keep something a secret.[/QUOTE] That's what I wonder, there are apparently symbols EVERYWHERE. It makes no fucking sense.
[QUOTE=sltlamina;30324765]I don't like that the word "conspiracy" has become synonymous with "crazy idea that's got no grounding in reality" because that's true. Not saying the guy isn't a nut job, he clearly is, but... the term "conspiracy" gets thrown around a lot today, and it's bullshit because the meaning of the word is being destroyed and the credit of any legitimate conspiracy suddenly goes out of the window because of the stigma associated with the word.[/QUOTE] "Conspiracy" has always had a stigma. It doesn't mean that all "conspiracies" are like these though- lot of what was considered as "conspiracies" historically- the nature of Operation Condor and Operation Gladio for example- did prove to be real in time. However, those don't usually get attention- it's usually the weird stuff that Alex Jones and others tend to produce that seem to be the stuff people waste time and effort one, when they could probably be putting that energy towards something much more plausible.
I wish there was a New World Order so I could join and commit genocide on idiots.
[QUOTE=Sourcream&onion;30374644]I wish there was a New World Order so I could join and commit genocide on idiots.[/QUOTE] wow
Yeah you'd have to kill YOURSELF BING BANG BONG sourcream&onion 0 POLOPOZOZO 1
[QUOTE=Sourcream&onion;30374644]I wish there was a New World Order so I could join and commit genocide on idiots.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30257796]Well men, we do need some cleansing actually. Idiot cleansing. Prepare the ovens, theres about to be a lot of stupid aflame. [img]http://www.industrialoven.co.uk/images/industrial-oven-image2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
If there were really a massive government conspiracy like NWO or whatever, the most vocal conspiracy theorists would 'coincidentally' be killed in car crashes, or by muggers, or whatever. It's absolutely stupid to claim that the government has the coordination and capability to pull off these grandiose schemes perfectly, without any leaks, yet can't shut up some dumbass college students revealing their 'grand plan'.
Conspiracy theories can get pretty far out there sometimes. But people need to stop completely dismissing anything to do with them. Five hundred years ago, the people who claimed the Earth wasn't flat were deemed as 'crazy conspiracy kooks'. All it takes is a quick look through a history book and you'll see how relatively small rich and powerful have constantly banded together against the poor and destitute. A secret organization of alien lizards that surrepetitiously sprays poisonous chemicals over people's homes may be on the extreme side of things, but you cannot deny the very probable possibility that certain groups of wealthy people (if you'd call them that) could connive some scheme to get more money for themselves and less for everyone else. It has happened countless times before all over the world; who's to say it is not happening right now?
[QUOTE=The Epidemic;30461699]Conspiracy theories can get pretty far out there sometimes. But people need to stop completely dismissing anything to do with them. Five hundred years ago, the people who claimed the Earth wasn't flat were deemed as 'crazy conspiracy kooks'.[/QUOTE] What? No they weren't.
[QUOTE=TH89;30463362]What? No they weren't.[/QUOTE] People who claimed that the Earth wasn't flat WITH proof were not considered crazies. The ones without, were actual crazies.
Either way they weren't called "conspiracy theorists" That's like furries going "bugs bunny is a furry so if you hate furries you hate bugs bunny!"
I have deep respect for you after reading the title of this thread. However I did not read this thread.
Glad you caught the reference.
[QUOTE=amute;30464307]Glad you caught the reference.[/QUOTE] Who didn't? Austin Powers is awesome. Best pageking ever.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30468873]Who didn't? Austin Powers is awesome.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/11/reaction.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=amute;30337608]Okay, here's something you don't seem to understand - Humans still fucking use it. I don't think the climate crisis has to do with the lack of hemp production. It has more to do with carcinogens and green house gases, which btw, will be contributed to by machines like decorticators. Hemp is good, but it's not AS good as you're making it out to be. Cotton production is similar in many ways to hemp production. Both are materials you cultivate and weave. And explain this shit to me: Through the industrial revolution, and up until the 19-fucking-70's, the enviroment had been butchered. YET, Hemp was still widely used and distributed. I like how you're saying I need to make up my own mind yet the ONLY opinions you've presented is stuff some hacks said. Good job, boyo. You see, what I've done is, present facts and sources for your claims, that's something called researching, normally the sign of a person trying to formulate their own opinion. You have posted the opinions of only two people, defended it still after I refuted it, and told me to watch it again, as if that means something. That's a person who is stubborn, ignorant and can't think for themselves.[/QUOTE] Hemp does make a pretty good fabric though, as opposed to cotton, which takes tons of water and pesticides. The Aral Sea has pretty much disappeared because of cotton.
I've only read a couple pages in this thread. I promise I'll read all these other posts when I have the time. But, I just thought I'd say thank you for posting this. Conspiracy theories are all too common these days. And, I have personal problems with it. The love of my life... well, her dad believes all of this stuff. I've met his friends, as well, and they are all just like him. I can't go into much detail, but I can verify that there is no happy medium. This is not one of those issues like budget cuts, Democrat Vs. Republican, what should be taught in schools, or economic details, where people can be very opinionated for the duration of a discussion, and then move on with their day to other important things. No. This is a lifestyle. When you get sucked into this way of thinking, these paranoid suspicions, you become an intellectually inept zombie. Or, you have to be an intellectually inept zombie to get sucked into this way of thinking. I'm really not sure. Either way, it's not like, "The government is planning to kill us, I'm pretty sure of it. Anyways, you see what McNabb did yesterday? I didn't know anyone could throw like that." Nope. It's more like, "The government is planning to kill us. I've stocked up on rice, MRE's, TP, batteries, and bottled water. The wife and I are planning to go up north to look at some houses in the woods where we can hide out when it's time to get off the grid. A few friends are coming along, too. It's going to be a week-long thing, so we'll have to reschedule the survival meeting for the 15th. Oh! I HAVE to show you this... it's a tube full of seeds. I heard about it on Coast-to-Coast AM. It's enough seeds to provide us for food to last several years, all compressed into a convenient vacuum-fresh container. It'll come in handy, considering the major food corporations are primed to release a dangerous toxin in the food supply. The toxin is designed to react with aspartame, forming a dangerous combination that will dissolve your nervous system in 40 minutes. While we're on the subject, what do you think about vaccines?" I kid you not. I'm not even laughing, chuckling, or grinning. Others may be getting a kick out of reading the above illustration, but this is all too real to me. This isn't just a part of their lives. It IS their lives. It's what they breathe, smell, eat, think, feel, say... it's their god. It's a sickness. It's a physical and mental sickness. It makes them lose sleep, ruins their appetite, and causes them to fixate on something that they probably, in some small way, know is outlandish and absurd. Put yourself in the following position. You go to a party or some social event. You pass a pretty girl, and you say, "How are you?" She smiles and says, "Great! How are you?" After exchanging greetings, some other girl starts talking to her, and to avoid any awkwardness, you casually wander off. She finishes talking to her friend, but then, doesn't seek you out. She doesn't look for you. Instead, she goes over to talk to someone else. Later, she passes you and says, "It was nice meeting you." You don't see her again. Instead, you continue the conversation in your head. "Your eyes are a really deep shade of blue. I've never seen anything like it." "Oh, what do I do? I work at a school where I do a lot of different things. It's basically a jack-of-all-trades kind of job." Over the next couple weeks, you do this, thinking of scenarios in which you could impress her. You wonder if there was any subtle movement in her face that anyone else would have picked up as flirtatious or if there was anything about her disposition that you missed that would have told you whether or not she was even interested in you. You continue to perceive that one conversation as the highlight of your year, and maybe, just maybe, the highlight of her's. In an immediate sense, this kind of thought process is probably normal. It's love, or the potential thereof. But, if it continues for months or years, then it just might be mental illness, especially if you think the person has deep feelings for you, despite the fact that they never showed any such emotions. Now, let's look back at these conspiracy theories. Despite the fact that there has been no legitimate indication that the government is planning the highest level of mass genocide ever imagined, and despite the logical explanations for what these truthers (or whatever you want to call them) claim can't be explained, they continue to believe it's true. They plan it all out in their head. They think of all ways it could go down. You'd think that because their ideas are silly and unfounded, it would be easy to debate them. You would be wrong. You spent the past day or two thinking about this. They spend every waking moment of their lives thinking about it. I'm still uncertain about why they believe this stuff. Further painstaking studies are required for me to come to a conclusion, but I think I've got it narrowed down to two different personality types, not including those who truly are mentally ill. First off, there's the naive, paranoid personality. The problem with this personality is that it's subjected to emotion more than logic. To be convinced of a story, myth, threat, etc., one only needs to be exposed to anecdotal "evidence" and vague pictures/documents. These people are extremely common. They may want to know the truth. They certainly don't want to be scammed or lied too. But, the stories they hear are just so scary, it must be true, right? Want to know something that's really scary? Google Anti-vax or Big Pharma, and tell me you don't feel some measure of uncertainty when you read horror stories written by followers of Jenny McCarthy. We're all susceptible to being subdued by our own emotions and inherent fears. But ultimately, we have to put reason above our feelings. I won't elaborate too much on this, but I would suggest that to learn more about this kind of behavior and thought process, anyone interested should check out "The Panic Virus," by Seth Mnookin. It's an incredible read, and really sheds some light on the human condition in regards to the unknown. Secondly, there's the personality that comes with being a social failure. You didn't go to college, you didn't have many friends growing up, or you feel inadequate because you work some dead-end job when you should be somewhere better. Maybe you just have physical or mental deficiencies that set you apart from anyone else. In any case, you feel that no one accepts you or considers you their equal. You come short of the expectations of society. But then, if the government is trying to kill us all, then, those other people who have great jobs, money to throw around, and respect from everyone they know... their jobs are worthless. Everything they do is like a lab-rat toiling in futility to get through a maze that has no cheese. They're Sheeple. They're just blind to what you know as the future destruction of all mankind. People with this type of personality are trying to fill some kind of void. Not only does it rationalize their pain away, but it gives them a medium, something they have in common with many others who believe the same thing. They're finally accepted. People pay attention to them. Suddenly, they're okay with themselves. The problem here is that they should have already been okay with themselves. The first half of the previous paragraph describes me. Yeah, I wish things were better. And yes, I did spend a good 6 years beating myself up over my short-comings. But you know what? I couldn't afford to go to college initially, and the money my parents saved up for my college fund, I told them to give it to my sister, so she'd have a better chance. I didn't have many friends growing up, but the few that I had/have stuck with me. I still have a dead-end job, but the job market is getting better in my area and I have the next couple days off to continue job-hunting. And finally, I have things that I've often been self-conscious about... things I can't change: my jaw/teeth structure, the height difference between my ears, and the sound of my voice (I can't stand to hear a recording of it). Regardless, it may be big to me, but other people apparently don't even notice any of these things unless I point them out. Furthermore, the most important girl in my life wouldn't change a thing about me. She accepts me because of who I am, and I can't seem to screw up enough to make her second guess our relationship. The more I'm like myself, the more she's attracted to me. I'm not going to turn to conspiracy theories or the hope that, someday, aliens will take me to another world where I can start over. I'm not going to turn to this stuff, because I'm accepted by the people who matter to me. But, consider this... what if we, or society, is responsible for the people who turn to this garbage? We set stereotypes in regards to taste, physical appearance, financial status, etc., and alienate anyone who doesn't fit the mold that we've deemed acceptable and persistently portrayed in various forms of media and communication. Maybe we don't do this willingly, but when we strive to become something we're not, we separate ourselves from those who can't keep up. At the risk of sounding like an after-school special, we should be okay with who we are. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep moving towards something better for ourselves. We just need to be a lot less self-defeating. I know that last bit is something everyone has heard at some point in their life, but it's relevant here. Maybe the better a person feels about themselves, the less likely they are to make themselves sick over conspiracy theories. I don't know for a fact that there is no government conspiracy. I just don't see any evidence or even any logic behind the theories that exist. I will say, though, I know of at least one likely conspiracy, but it's local, it's something other than government, and I probably shouldn't go into it, just to be safe. Other than that, I need to be sold. I'm skeptical. We need to fight stories and hype with reason and facts. Once again, excellent work, amute. It was kind of weird seeing this up here after all I've been through lately. This stuff has been seriously spilling over into our lives the past couple months, and it's just a constant battle over beliefs, rights, and theories. You'd think that for a bunch of people who believe in fighting to the death for their rights, they'd respect your rights as well, but no. It's hypocrisy. Almost everything you said, I've heard in the past two months. I hate hearing it, but I'm glad it's here.
I've met more of the first type than anything else, I've known people who were successful businessmen who believe in this shit as well as tattoo artists, image design people, they're everywhere. It's not just about being a societal or economic failure. For those people it's just general distrust of anything larger than they are, any system really, "the" system. They don't like government, business, most likely aren't too fond of psychology either if you catch my drift (they'd probably call them thought controllers or something). It's a mild form of schizophrenia I'm sure of it, I haven't followed up on most of these people but they're mostly harmless, honestly. I don't know if society does this to people, could be, I think what really sets them off though is a suspicion of anything they don't have direct control over, like a control issue of sorts, they don't like any kind of secrecy within "the system", must be a conspiracy of some kind. Maybe just people who psychologically feel out of control in regards to the world at large, nobody knows what happens in it really, nobody can explain it in full detail, all the holes are filled with men lurking in the shadows waiting to lead us like sheep to the slaughter.
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