It's kinda funny, future civilizations on their touch-screen projectors and wristwatch-sized gaming computers will look at IPv4 architecture as we look at dialup: "haha, how the fuck did those dinosaurs function on that shit?!"
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[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;27794590]I still won't be able to connect to any IPv6 address, since they don't have the equipment to handle/issue one to me. Did I mention that they give us routers and modems made in the '90s?[/QUOTE]
Website runners are aware that most of the planet is using IPv6-incapable hardware and will take their dear time converting to IPv6 (it's likely that they'll leave IPv4 variants running, too)
I would like to assure you all that [url]www.makemeawizard.net[/url] is IPv6 compliant. No need to worry.
[QUOTE=Xolo;27794635]Website runners are aware that most of the planet is using IPv6-incapable hardware and will take their dear time converting to IPv6 (it's likely that they'll leave IPv4 variants running, too)[/QUOTE]
So, if say your ISP never upgraded to IPv6 and they ran out of addresses, what would happen?
[QUOTE=Olas;27794703]I would like to assure you all that [url]www.makemeawizard.net[/url] is IPv6 compliant. No need to worry.[/QUOTE]
I told you about wizards bro!
[QUOTE=the_grul;27794547]I'll probably bug my ISP until they get me some IPv6 equipment.[/QUOTE]
And they'll just add you to their spam filters.
[QUOTE=Trumple;27794752]So, if say your ISP never upgraded to IPv6 and they ran out of addresses, what would happen?[/QUOTE]
They would go bankrupt as all their users cease to be able to access the internet. Luckily, ISPs are smarter than that.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;27794765]I told you about wizards bro![/QUOTE]
I told you dog!
[QUOTE=FFStudios;27794330]Wait so what happens (in a serious sense) when IPv4 addresses run out?[/QUOTE]
For you? Nothing. When this pool runs out, it means no new ISP will be able to ask for addresses. Theoretically, they might not be able to cover demand in some quickly developing countries like China or India. Western IPs have have enough IP addresses hoarded, and in the very worst case will apply ISP wide NATs which cheat lack of addresses using other methods.
In the very worst case which can never happen, no new clients would be able to connect to the internet.
[QUOTE=Xolo;27794793]They would go bankrupt as all their users cease to be able to access the internet. Luckily, ISPs are smarter than that.[/QUOTE]
So, they WOULD be unable to connect, which is what I said.
Anyway, I am aware it will not happen.
Ehh, rate me dumb but what does that mean to us as Internet users?
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And whats the difference between ip4 and ip6?
[QUOTE=Trumple;27794752]So, if say your ISP never upgraded to IPv6 and they ran out of addresses, what would happen?[/QUOTE]
Nothing really. It's possible for isolated IPv4 network (dumb ISP) to be connected to majorly IPv6 global network. If they don't bother moving to IPv6, it means you will have to deal with being somewhat half arsed in means of IPv6 internet, but it will never work worse than it worked in IPv4.
Can an ISP provider not change the IP protocol ?
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;27794941]Can an ISP provider not change the IP protocol ?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
At least so far there isn't anything that would force it to.
My ISP is stupid enough to probably reissue the same IP to multiple connections.
[QUOTE=sebmck;27794950]My ISP is stupid enough to probably reissue the same IP to multiple connections.[/QUOTE]
That's basically what's already done for years. It's called [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAT]NAT[/url]
[QUOTE=Olas;27794703]I would like to assure you all that [url]www.makemeawizard.net[/url] is IPv6 compliant. No need to worry.[/QUOTE]
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/IIoXF.jpg[/img_thumb]
compwizard?
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;27794484]I've talked to my ISP about the IPv4 issue, they said
:eng99:[/QUOTE]
:byodood: Am I the only one that wants sooner rather than later? I'd rather have the safety net of IPv6 ready incase something goes horribly wrong and causes the end of the world.
By the way, I feel fine.
The only thing I am really worried about is some greedy as fuck ISP charging people extra for IPv6 support. If thats even possible, is it?
[QUOTE=Trumple;27794752]So, if say your ISP never upgraded to IPv6 and they ran out of addresses, what would happen?[/QUOTE]
You can imagine the whole thing like if whole world moved to new postage system, lets say totally turned away from normal address like country, state, city etc, and moved to numeric address only. Now for example Madagascar decided to refuse to move to the new addressing, and stayed at the old system.
If somebody sends a parcel from Madagascar outside of it, he uses normal old address, and the postage service on the only fucking port which is on Madagascar translates the classical address into the worldwide standard of addresses and ships it out. Now when a parcel from other place in the world is shipped to Madagascar, it's sent with the new numerical address, but once it gets to the port on Madagascar, they translate it into the normal address (unless that motherfucker is closed because that bitch ordered shutdown).
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[QUOTE=Political Gamer;27795129]The only thing I am really worried about is some greedy as fuck ISP charging people extra for IPv6 support. If thats even possible, is it?[/QUOTE]
I guess it's possible, but I doubt anyone will do it. If that happens, change ISP.
[QUOTE=proch;27794888]Ehh, rate me dumb but what does that mean to us as Internet users?
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And whats the difference between ip4 and ip6?[/QUOTE]
an IPv4 address is something like: 85.123.98.255
it's a 32bit address so there are only 2^32 = 4,294,967,296 addresses
an IPv6 address is more like this: 3ffe:6a88:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7344
it's 128bit so there are 2^128 = 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 addresses
afaik, the differences are mainly that ipv6 is more efficient with things like data transferring, but I don't think it matters a lot
[QUOTE=BrQ;27795305]an IPv4 address is something like: 85.123.98.765
it's a 32bit address so there are only 2^32 = 4,294,967,296 addresses
an IPv6 address is more like this: 3ffe:6a88:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7344
it's 128bit so there are 2^128 = 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 addresses
afaik, the differences are mainly that ipv6 is more efficient with things like data transferring, but I don't think it matters a lot[/QUOTE]
Rated informative, thanks bro
I thought IPv6 would be like 85.123.98.765.xx.xx (adding2 more 2 digit numbers)
The main change in IPv6 is the change of the addresses. It's not the only change, but overshadows the rest completely.
It's generally meant to be more automated, while more solid, which is partially caused by the fact we have basically never usable amount of addresses. One of the ideas which will probably never happen is that all home clients should have static IP addresses instead of dynamically assigned NATed IPs.
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6]Wiki has rather extensive article about IPv6. Pretty much everything you might want to know is there.[/url]
[QUOTE=BrQ;27795305]an IPv4 address is something like: 85.123.98.765
it's a 32bit address so there are only 2^32 = 4,294,967,296 addresses
an IPv6 address is more like this: 3ffe:6a88:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7344
it's 128bit so there are 2^128 = 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 addresses
afaik, the differences are mainly that ipv6 is more efficient with things like data transferring, but I don't think it matters a lot[/QUOTE]
my ipv6 ip is 2001:0:4137:9e76:147b:340:a315:1b54
I have some questions
1) What will happen now? Is everyone going to brick it and start rolling out IPv6 (with some quick-fix NAT in the short-term), or will they just slam some NAT down and go :smug:
2) [url=http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/]Potaroo[/url] makes me believe that this is just the IANA exhaustion date, and other RIRs have a load of addresses left. Correct or no?
[QUOTE=smurfy;27795632]I have some questions
1) What will happen now? Is everyone going to brick it and start rolling out IPv6 (with some quick-fix NAT in the short-term), or will they just slam some NAT down and go :smug:[/QUOTE]
The later most probably. Depends from ISP to ISP. Some ISPs are already fully IPv6 ready afaik.
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[quote]2) [url=http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/]Potaroo[/url] makes me believe that this is just the IANA exhaustion date, and other RIRs have a load of addresses left. Correct or no?[/QUOTE]
I am not sure, but it doesn't really matter. Other addresses will also run out soon, and on the other side, when that happens, it's not much of a big deal.
4 hours to go!
To be honest I like addresses like 85.123.98.765 more than 2001:0:4137:9e76:147b:340:a315:1b54. I mean seriously, what if you give your IP to a friend to connect to your server? You'd have to copy this huge string instead of 4 small numbers separated by a dot.
[QUOTE=Olas;27794703]I would like to assure you all that [url]www.makemeawizard.net[/url] is IPv6 compliant. No need to worry.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/IIoXF.jpg[/img]
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