• The "Which camera is right for me?" thread V2 - Get a used Rebel
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[QUOTE=GraniteMouse;31623601]I seriously want to know when you'd need to manually adjust exposure during a video. I could try to Google it, but obviously you know.[/QUOTE] When you go from inside to outside or when you want to give the video a sort of darkness. Something that automatic exposure just woulndn't do.
He's right. Why would you? Let's all switch our cameras to P.
The sarcasm is very hurtful and not helpful for beginners :tinfoil:
why do you shoot your photos in M?
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;31625712]why do you shoot your photos in M?[/QUOTE] To achieve nice effects but why would you need to change the exposure [i]in the middle[/i] of a clip which makes up a few seconds of a movie?
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31625819]To achieve nice effects but why would you need to change the exposure [i]in the middle[/i] of a clip which makes up a few seconds of a movie?[/QUOTE] Because lighting conditions are variable
Guys. Guys. [b]GUYS.[/b] It's done. He bought the D3100. He wanted stills and basic video capability, not anything extravagant. Certain Nikon models like the D7000 already have manual video exposure control, by the time he upgrades to a prosumer or newer entry level they may very well have it, too. You're assuming the market is entirely stagnant and that Canon will be forever superior in video. He made his decision based on what felt right to him, give him a break already.
[QUOTE=Skyhawk;31627307]Guys. Guys. [b]GUYS.[/b] It's done. He bought the D3100. He wanted stills and basic video capability, not anything extravagant. Certain Nikon models like the D7000 already have manual video exposure control, by the time he upgrades to a prosumer or newer entry level they may very well have it, too. You're assuming the market is entirely stagnant and that Canon will be forever superior in video. He made his decision based on what felt right to him, give him a break already.[/QUOTE] Thank you!
Come on guys it's silly to throw shit at each other if he already pulled the trigger on the purchase. And Alcapwne, from my experience with the d3100, I can tell you the meter isn't very reliable in most situations, but you can still get decent stuff if you set the AE/F L button to lock exposure until you press it again, and before recording or enabling live view you enter manual mode and set a speed of 1/50, the aperture setting you need (keep in mind you need a balance between DoF and lighting needs so that you don't have to push ISO settings to where it gets ugly), and then lock the exposure. You still won't have great control over the video settings but it helps. If you don't have a tripod or other form of stabilisation don't expect good results. You can get nice smooth videos with a video tripod at f8. Also, keep in mind destroying the details in the scene and composition of the frame with shallow dof doesn't automatically make a video good, and it's a pretty bad practice for video. Oh and for the ones asking ''Why would you need to change exposure in the middle of a video!??!?!'', the answer is you don't. What we meant is setting the appropiate exposure for a scene before recording, like you would with a photo. Fun fact: The d3100 changes the exposure suddenly in the middle of recording unless you learn to lock the exposure. You don't have control over what it meters, hence it being a poo poo camera for video.
[QUOTE=The Un-Men;31628297]Come on guys it's silly to throw shit at each other if he already pulled the trigger on the purchase. And Alcapwne, from my experience with the d3100, I can tell you the meter isn't very reliable in most situations, but you can still get decent stuff if you set the AF/L button to lock exposure until you press it again, and before recording or enabling live view you enter manual mode and set a speed of 1/50, the aperture setting you need (keep in mind you need a balance between DoF and lighting needs so that you don't have to push ISO settings to where it gets ugly), and then lock the exposure. You still won't have great control over the video settings but it helps. If you don't have a tripod or other form of stabilisation don't expect good results. You can get nice smooth videos with a video tripod at f8. Also, keep in mind destroying the details in the scene and composition of the frame with shallow dof doesn't automatically make a video good, and it's a pretty bad practice for video.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the advice :smile: Any recommendation on tripods? I was looking at the Hama Star 62, it's like £15 on amazon: [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0000WXD16/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A3TLXN00XR34MU[/url]
Flimsy piece of crap.
Save up for a good one. (Protip: The one you posted isn't)
Damn :( what sort of price range am I looking at for something half decent?
People around here like manfrotto. You could get an used one for 70 bucks or something. I dunno. Just keep in mind if you want to do decent video with it you probably want a 3 axis video head , as opposed to a ballhead (which is useful but only for still shots).
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31628547]Damn :( what sort of price range am I looking at for something half decent?[/QUOTE] Vanguard are really good, as good as manfrotto buy in most cases a good deal cheaper.
[QUOTE=ijyt;31629040]Vanguard are really good, as good as manfrotto buy in most cases a good deal cheaper.[/QUOTE] Thanks, I'll take a look at them what are you guys' opinions on the Gorillapod?
[QUOTE=Bigboy855;31624851]When you go from inside to outside or when you want to give the video a sort of darkness. Something that automatic exposure just woulndn't do.[/QUOTE] For the record, in P and in full Auto, both my D7000 and D5000 have always auto-adjusted exposure during filming. I just took video now and it did it. I'll upload it if you want but youtube will probably take five hours to process the effect. Using the exp compensation ([img]http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/NikonF5/images/icon-expcomp.gif[/img]) will allow you to manually adjust the overall exposure- both ahead of time [i]and[/i] during the video taking. Good for letting you to decide whether you want a low or high key look during ALL situations during your video as well. I think the automatic stepping of exposure is much more useful than using the scrolly wheels to adjust it, because you end up moving the camera around when doing that, and if you're using the built in mic it will hear it better than your subject.
I read something on a photo blog and I thought it was pretty cool that applies to anyone that is starting off in photography or already in it. "Decent Tripod, Good Flash, Amazing lens" You don't really need a Manfrotto tripod as a beginner in photography, just get something decent that works for you.
for example, something that stands up on its own. I've used a $30 tripod I bought at best buy for five years now, it's cheap, light, and holds a camera.
i use a hama star something, it gets the job done
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;31630046]i use a hama star something, it gets the job done[/QUOTE] Yeah that's what I was thinking of getting but apparently it's a flimsy piece of crap and I should save up for a new one... have you tried panning and stuff with it for video?
I just used my girlfriend's 3100 to test the video. It also auto-exposes to suit the scene, and allows the exp compensation to adjust overall dark/lightness
[QUOTE=daijitsu;31630124]I just used my girlfriend's 3100 to test the video. It also auto-exposes to suit the scene, and allows the exp compensation to adjust overall dark/lightness[/QUOTE] Great, thanks :smile: you hear that everybody? my camera is fine, just fine!
Get a fig rig, shoulder rig, or steadicam.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;31630347]Get a fig rig, shoulder rig, or steadicam.[/QUOTE] That stuff is waaaay too expensive
You can easily build a fig rig.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;31630486]You can easily build a fig rig.[/QUOTE] wouldn't it be better to get a tripod?
Not really, fig rigs are better for filming since you can move around on your feet.
[QUOTE=Bigboy855;31629614]I read something on a photo blog and I thought it was pretty cool that applies to anyone that is starting off in photography or already in it. "Decent Tripod, Good Flash, Amazing lens" You don't really need a Manfrotto tripod as a beginner in photography, just get something decent that works for you.[/QUOTE] I've worked with a super cheapo $5 tripod my parents got, and I would still be using it had I not gotten my manfrotto. Make a shoulder rig using your tripod. Not as good as an actual shoulder rig from like Jag35, tried one before.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;31630674]Not really, fig rigs are better for filming since you can move around on your feet.[/QUOTE] what b-hazard said. A tripod is great for steady, still shots, but if you need to move around a fig is a convenient route to go. [t]http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/review/bogen-imaging/photography/manfrotto-fig-rig-video-cam.jpg[/t] you can make them out of PVC. [img]http://images.camcorderinfo.com/images/upload/Image/Blog/diy_figrig.jpg[/img]
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