The "Which camera is right for me?" thread V2 - Get a used Rebel
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Can someone help me out?
I am very new to photography. I am sort of limited to about $250, I am looking for a digital camera.. I was looking at a couple of super zooms, but I was told that super zooms aren't the greatest. I'm not sure what to get anymore, although no one explained to me why the cameras I asked about were/weren't great
[url]http://snapsort.com/cameras/Kodak-Z990-MAX[/url]
[url]http://snapsort.com/cameras/Nikon/Coolpix_L110[/url]
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;31811039]Can someone help me out?
I am very new to photography. I am sort of limited to about $250, I am looking for a digital camera.. I was looking at a couple of super zooms, but I was told that super zooms aren't the greatest. I'm not sure what to get anymore, although no one explained to me why the cameras I asked about were/weren't great
[url]http://snapsort.com/cameras/Kodak-Z990-MAX[/url]
[url]http://snapsort.com/cameras/Nikon/Coolpix_L110[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm no camera guru but I wouldn't spend the whole $250 on a non-DSLR, if I were you I'd get a cheap second hand camera that's half decent (manual focus, good image quality) for, say, $100-$150 and then decide whether you like the hobby enough to spend more on a DSLR when the time comes
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31811281]I'm no camera guru but I wouldn't spend the whole $250 on a non-DSLR, if I were you I'd get a cheap second hand camera that's half decent (manual focus, good image quality) for, say, $100-$150 and then decide whether you like the hobby enough to spend more on a DSLR when the time comes[/QUOTE]
Can you recommend a camera for $100?
[editline]18th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;31811553]Can you recommend a camera for $100?[/QUOTE]
Or at least one with a manual mode?
If it helps, I got a camera a while ago, back in 2007 actually. It's a Kodak Easyshare v803
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31808120]I remember the days I used to take disposable cameras on school trips :v:[/QUOTE]
My city had 300-life sized cows on display while I was a wee tot. So of course, 6-year-old me armed up with all the disposable cameras my family would buy. I actually managed ~200 pictures... of cows missing legs, feet, heads, or tails. :v: I had (have) something to learn about framing.
oh. topic. uh. which camera should I get? the successor to the Sony A55 or the step-up?
I went to Target today to pick up some snacks, and I decided to go on by the camera department since I had some time on my hands. I looked at some of the cameras, and then the guy working at the camera department came and started talking to me about cameras, and luckily he was very knowledgeable.
He started telling me about the sensor types and how he thought that the CCD sensor was better than the CMOS sensor. He was telling me about the size of the sensor as well, and how it's a ratio and such. Told me how most of the super zooms were just over-priced point and shoots with a lot of zoom.
Now I'm unsure of what to get at all. I'm not even sure if this is a hobby that I would like, so I don't want to drop any more than $150 on it anymore since if I do like it, maybe in about a year I'll drop some good money on a new DSLR.
Any suggestions?
pick up an old film SLR from ebay, craigslist or a thrift shop if you can find one. Doesn't have to be an advanced camera, just enough that it at least lets you play with the aperture (it's a dial ring on the lens, with numbers down near 1.8 or whatever, up to 22.
Learn how aperture works and affects your picture's look and affects the shutter speed, and what THAT means for you. If you want you can probably just ask in the off-topic thread or something, lots of helpful people. I'm not going into detail right now though.
Shoot a roll or two of film. it'll be less than 50 pictures, but I'm sure it'll take you a while to go through that much at first, and by the end of the few dollars you spent, you'll know whether you like it or not, and at least have a cool old camera that you can use if you feel the urge to snap some shots, without being a piece of crap $150 point and click, nor a waste of money if it sits around like a DSLR would end up being.
So next year, I plan on picking up Photography AS. So I'm looking for a camera roughly in the sub £500 range (I'm a poor student)- any recommendations? A friend of mine suggest looking at the Canon EOS 1100D?
[QUOTE=Chuushajou;31840466]So next year, I plan on picking up Photography AS. So I'm looking for a camera roughly in the sub £500 range (I'm a poor student)- any recommendations? A friend of mine suggest looking at the Canon EOS 1100D?[/QUOTE]
I recently got the Nikon D3100 off amazon for £400, it's really good and better than the 1100D according to snapsort
and it's video recording is great too, despite what others may have you think. If you're willing to spend the whole £500 though, you should try getting a 550D. You can get one for like £480 with kit lens from some ebay stores.
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;31837318]He started telling me about the sensor types and how he thought that the CCD sensor was better than the CMOS sensor.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, the CCD vs CMOS debate is kinda pointless. Both will capture a detailed image for you, providing you have good glass.
Thinking about getting more interested in photography. Is my dad's old Canon D30 perfectly suitable for fucking about with?
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31840547]I recently got the Nikon D3100 off amazon for £400, it's really good and better than the 1100D according to snapsort
and it's video recording is great too, despite what others may have you think. If you're willing to spend the whole £500 though, you should try getting a 550D. You can get one for like £480 with kit lens from some ebay stores.[/QUOTE]
For ~£500 you could also get a Nikon D5100, the bigger brother to the D3100. Chuushajou, if you're comfortable spending your [i]whole[/i] budget, I recommend going to a store and comparing the Canon Rebel T2i (550D) and Nikon D5100. [url=http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_Rebel_T2i-vs-Nikon-D5100]Specs-wise, they are about the same, with a slight edge to the D5100[/url], so the deciding factor should really be whichever feels better to you in your hands.
Alternatively, you could go with Alcapwne's suggestion of the D3100 (which I own as well - excellent camera) and invest the leftover funds in an additional lens, such as the [url=http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-55-300mm-4-5-5-6G-ED-VR/dp/B003ZSHNCC/]55-300mm F4.5-5.6 VR[/url] or the cheaper [url=http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-55-200mm-VR-Vibration-Reduction/dp/B000O161X0/]55-200mm F4-5.6 VR[/url], either of which you can get on Amazon $100-off if purchased with the camera. You could also try to get your hands on a D3100 body only, and instead of the 18-55mm kit lens, you could get a [url=http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-35mm-AF-S-Digital-Cameras/dp/B001S2PPT0/]35mm f1.8G[/url] which is a much better piece of glass (you zoom with your feet.) If you can find the body alone, the 35mm 1.8 and the 55-200mm should be an excellent setup.
[QUOTE=Fergeh;31845256]Thinking about getting more interested in photography. Is my dad's old Canon D30 perfectly suitable for fucking about with?[/QUOTE]
It's older than shit, but the best camera is the one you have with you. If it has manual exposure control (which it does, it's a DSLR) it should be great for learning the basics.
Yeah its only 3mpx or so but I don't really mind, not planning on doing any massive prints
[QUOTE=Fergeh;31845362]Yeah its only 3mpx or so but I don't really mind, not planning on doing any massive prints[/QUOTE]
I think the rule is you don't need any more than 8mpx for prints larger than 5x7. 3mpx is low but if you use that body and feel like investing in good glass (lenses) later, you would have an easy time upgrading. Or really, if your dad has good glass now, you wouldn't need to repurchase.
Also, when you use it, use manual focus. It will probably serve you better than the autofocus on that thing.
I always wanted to get into this whole photography n' stuff thing, but I am not the wealthiest man on the Earth, the most I can afford is ~$175 for a camera.
Is there any way I can get a normal camera for that price or should I just keep looking for a less expensive hobby?
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;31862119]I always wanted to get into this whole photography n' stuff thing, but I am not the wealthiest man on the Earth, the most I can afford is ~$175 for a camera.
Is there any way I can get a normal camera for that price or should I just keep looking for a less expensive hobby?[/QUOTE]
Film my man. I recommend an Olympus OM-1.
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;31862119]I always wanted to get into this whole photography n' stuff thing, but I am not the wealthiest man on the Earth, the most I can afford is ~$175 for a camera.
Is there any way I can get a normal camera for that price or should I just keep looking for a less expensive hobby?[/QUOTE]
As ep9 said, $175 will get you a great quality film camera, lots of high quality film, and a small haul of lenses. It's a good place to start, if you learn about all the controls before you shoot, naturally.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;31862303]As ep9 said, $175 will get you a great quality film camera, lots of high quality film, and a small haul of lenses. It's a good place to start, if you learn about all the controls before you shoot, naturally.[/QUOTE]
He doesn't even need all that, to be honest to start out on film all you need is a half-decent body with a good 50mm fast prime, which you can easily get for under $50.
I'm not too keen of using films, I mean, I am not even sure there's a single place in my town where I can get my photos developed (if that is the right word).
[QUOTE=Skyhawk;31845261]For ~£500 you could also get a Nikon D5100, the bigger brother to the D3100. Chuushajou, if you're comfortable spending your [i]whole[/i] budget, I recommend going to a store and comparing the Canon Rebel T2i (550D) and Nikon D5100. [url=http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_Rebel_T2i-vs-Nikon-D5100]Specs-wise, they are about the same, with a slight edge to the D5100[/url], so the deciding factor should really be whichever feels better to you in your hands.
Alternatively, you could go with Alcapwne's suggestion of the D3100 (which I own as well - excellent camera) and invest the leftover funds in an additional lens, such as the [url=http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-55-300mm-4-5-5-6G-ED-VR/dp/B003ZSHNCC/]55-300mm F4.5-5.6 VR[/url] or the cheaper [url=http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-55-200mm-VR-Vibration-Reduction/dp/B000O161X0/]55-200mm F4-5.6 VR[/url], either of which you can get on Amazon $100-off if purchased with the camera. You could also try to get your hands on a D3100 body only, and instead of the 18-55mm kit lens, you could get a [url=http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-35mm-AF-S-Digital-Cameras/dp/B001S2PPT0/]35mm f1.8G[/url] which is a much better piece of glass (you zoom with your feet.) If you can find the body alone, the 35mm 1.8 and the 55-200mm should be an excellent setup.
It's older than shit, but the best camera is the one you have with you. If it has manual exposure control (which it does, it's a DSLR) it should be great for learning the basics.[/QUOTE]
Thank you both for your replies! You've given lots of information and things that I need to look into a research, I'd preferable not like to spend all my £500 budget as I can put the rest towards my car insurance (£4,600 :suicide:) Would I be better off just getting the camera body and spending what I save on better quality lenses like Skyhawk suggested for every camera I consider?
Also, I found a OLYMPUS OM-1 for £60- albeit a film camera, would it be worth an investment?
[QUOTE=Chuushajou;31862769]Thank you both for your replies! You've given lots of information and things that I need to look into a research, I'd preferable not like to spend all my £500 budget as I can put the rest towards my car insurance (£4,600 :suicide:) Would I be better off just getting the camera body and spending what I save on better quality lenses like Skyhawk suggested for every camera I consider?
Also, I found a OLYMPUS OM-1 for £60- albeit a film camera, would it be worth an investment?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but you could probably get an OM-1 for £30-40 if you look around.
[QUOTE=GraniteMouse;31854378]I think the rule is you don't need any more than 8mpx for prints larger than 5x7. 3mpx is low but if you use that body and feel like investing in good glass (lenses) later, you would have an easy time upgrading. Or really, if your dad has good glass now, you wouldn't need to repurchase.
Also, when you use it, use manual focus. It will probably serve you better than the autofocus on that thing.[/QUOTE]
Haven't really got all that much choice on the autofocus front, the autofocus is totally fucked on both lenses
[QUOTE=Chuushajou;31862769]Thank you both for your replies! You've given lots of information and things that I need to look into a research, I'd preferable not like to spend all my £500 budget as I can put the rest towards my car insurance (£4,600 :suicide:) Would I be better off just getting the camera body and spending what I save on better quality lenses like Skyhawk suggested for every camera I consider?
Also, I found a OLYMPUS OM-1 for £60- albeit a film camera, would it be worth an investment?[/QUOTE]
Film vs. Digital Cost Efficiency:
[img]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/524/filmvsdigitalcost.png[/img]
That said, it's pretty well agreed that film almost always looks better than digital, and it teaches you to put more time and effort into your individual shots. There's also a bit of thrill in not knowing how the photo turns out till it's developed. If you're not sure how well you will like photography, it might be a good idea to go film just as a small initial investment. Later, when you've decided that you like the hobby, you can spend more on a full digital setup. In the meantime you'll still have a good film camera.
[QUOTE=Chuushajou;31862769]Thank you both for your replies! You've given lots of information and things that I need to look into a research, I'd preferable not like to spend all my £500 budget as I can put the rest towards my car insurance (£4,600 :suicide:) Would I be better off just getting the camera body and spending what I save on better quality lenses like Skyhawk suggested for every camera I consider?
Also, I found a OLYMPUS OM-1 for £60- albeit a film camera, would it be worth an investment?[/QUOTE]
kind of a generic reply but imo a 1000D/1100D would probably be more suitable and well within your budget you wont have to mess around getting stuff developed for the course you are doing and you will be able to get a decent lens as well (a 50 1.8 would be a good choice). 1000D/1100D is pretty much the facepunch starter camera recommendation.
i wouldnt bother with film just to save money, long term the cost add up and unless the uni your attending has a drum scanner you can use for free you wont be able to digitize your negatives them at decent resolution without paying a lot of money
What do you guys think about the Canon EOS Rebel Ti?
I found an auction for an used one which looks pretty promising.
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;31865076]What do you guys think about the Canon EOS Rebel Ti?
I found an auction for an used one which looks pretty promising.[/QUOTE]
Should at least be looking at a T2i.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;31865228]Should at least be looking at a Ti2.[/QUOTE]
No other cheap Canon bodies here, then.
The other ones I find are $2000 and more on the local auction sites.
the Ti is a film camera. Try 550D/Rebel T2i
[QUOTE=Skyhawk;31863527]Film vs. Digital Cost Efficiency:
[img]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/524/filmvsdigitalcost.png[/img]
That said, it's pretty well agreed that film almost always looks better than digital, and it teaches you to put more time and effort into your individual shots. There's also a bit of thrill in not knowing how the photo turns out till it's developed. If you're not sure how well you will like photography, it might be a good idea to go film just as a small initial investment. Later, when you've decided that you like the hobby, you can spend more on a full digital setup. In the meantime you'll still have a good film camera.[/QUOTE]
That is partially I would like a film camera, not only is the quality better- it makes me work harder.. I'm now actually looking at film cameras instead of DSLRs (Sorry to be a nuance) Would the Olympus OM-1 be a good starting point?
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