• The "Which camera is right for me?" thread V2 - Get a used Rebel
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Thanks. Will consider what I buy now, your suggestions helped alot!
Getting 2 prime lenses could bring up the price a ton, but don't settle for shitty ones. If you really can't afford both just get one for now. [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] Also the D5100 is a great body
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;30121031]Getting 2 prime lenses could bring up the price a ton, but don't settle for shitty ones. If you really can't afford both just get one for now. [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] Also the D5100 is a great body[/QUOTE] Hey! Great to hear I informed myself correctly already! Well, I am probably going to buy the 18-55 mm Lens for now.
is the price difference significant between the 18-105 and 18-55 kits? [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] i mean, both are shit lenses but the 18-105 is better
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;30121407]is the price difference significant between the 18-105 and 18-55 kits? [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] i mean, both are shit lenses but the 18-105 is better[/QUOTE] No, both are quality starter lenses that can give surprisingly good results.
all kit lenses bar 24-105 are shit [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] my 18-55 that came with my canon, great fun to use [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] but quality wise, it's a lump of low quality glass and motors
Well guys, this is to get me started. I'll be buying more stuff for the camera later if I am any good at what I plan :)
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;30121575]all kit lenses bar 24-105 are shit [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] my 18-55 that came with my canon, great fun to use [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] but quality wise, it's a lump of low quality glass and motors[/QUOTE] that's a bit harsh. the 18-55 IS is a great lens. stop it down to f/7.1 and it's damn sharp
thats true for any lens
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;30121897]thats true for any lens[/QUOTE] no it isn't even wide open the 18-55 IS is pretty sharp
My 18-55 is horribly unsharp even stopped down, but I think that's just because I have a bad batch of the older non-IS lens.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;30122423]My 18-55 is horribly unsharp even stopped down, but I think that's just because I have a bad batch of the older non-IS lens.[/QUOTE] IS isn't that much improved
[QUOTE=MisterM;30121502]No, both are quality starter lenses that can give surprisingly good results.[/QUOTE] i am proof of this ;)
[QUOTE=Nonikai;30122673]i am proof of this ;)[/QUOTE] What are you doing here? You should be at a bar, or something!
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;30122559]IS isn't that much improved[/QUOTE] The IS version is MUCH better.. I guess you have a bad copy or something.
Nikons 18-55 lens is a pretty sharp lens, even when shooting wide open
[QUOTE=Xera;30123184]The IS version is MUCH better.. I guess you have a bad copy or something.[/QUOTE] maybe on CA but sharpness isn't a massive improvement. I still love my 18-55, but the cheap as chips 50 has a place in my heart
Nikkor lenses are always going to be good lenses. Yes the 18-55 might not be great, but it's better than a lot of other lenses.
Is there any way to test out whether I like photography, because at the moment while I don't have a nice DSLR I think it's really great and I think I could enjoy it but I don't wanna blow hundreds of pounds on a camera and then find it out that it's not what it's made out to be :smith:
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;30128414]Is there any way to test out whether I like photography, because at the moment while I don't have a nice DSLR I think it's really great and I think I could enjoy it but I don't wanna blow hundreds of pounds on a camera and then find it out that it's not what it's made out to be :smith:[/QUOTE] Grab any camera and go out and shoot things. But learn a little about the rules of composure first, so you can actually take some neat shots. If your shots are good shots even with a shitty camera, then you know you want a good camera. The camera doesn't make the photographer. Or you could buy a really cheap film body.
[QUOTE=/B/rother;30122688]What are you doing here? You should be at a bar, or something![/QUOTE] Dude I was there last night. I organized a metal concert for my birthday and drank a little bit more than I should have I celebrated my birthday exactly on midnight at a bar
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;30128641]Grab any camera and go out and shoot things. But learn a little about the rules of composure first, so you can actually take some neat shots. If your shots are good shots even with a shitty camera, then you know you want a good camera. The camera doesn't make the photographer. Or you could buy a really cheap film body.[/QUOTE] I used to do this all the time and it drove people nuts. I'm only just noticing it myself now - it's composition not composure :P
whatever mannn
I've found something with the 'camera doesn't make the photographer' line, with my 35mm / digital shots, sure that held true to an extent, but when I started using medium format I was taking photos that would have otherwise been simply impossible (because of the way that mf is), in this case, it's the camera making the photo, not me.
Yeah of course there are shots that are impossible on some cameras, but that doesn't mean you can't take great shots with shitty camera.
So tell me - what advantages does MF bring?
sorry for the shitty phone quality, but here's a size comparison, 6x6 medium format vs. 35mm [img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/5776539738_b7f8d44c11.jpg[/img] now I can scan at 2400dpi, guess which one has more inches to pull detail out of?
Has anyone got a 30 1.4, 50 1.8 or 17-50 2.8 they could sell to me in the UK?
Just bought a 50 1.8, I'll try it out for a bit - if I dislike it it's yours.
[QUOTE=Funny;30138359]So tell me - what advantages does MF bring?[/QUOTE] Adding on to what haze said, it also gives you less DOF. For example, on a normal camera, 105mm gives you more bokeh than 50mm, but you get a tighter image and a smaller field of view. Medium format makes the 105mm field of view roughly equivalent to 50mm, but still gives you 105mm-bokeh. This is extremely useful for me because its not how much bokeh there is, its how far away and big my subjects are while still being able to blur out the background slightly. It's the same thing as saying "35mm gets less DOF than 1.6", except on a larger scale. This is what 105mm looks like on a 35mm camera, or full frame sensor. [img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5776944818_baaeacf924.jpg[/img] This is what 105mm looks like on medium format (6x7) [img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5376382096_ba65d28249.jpg[/img] I brought these two images to the same size on your screen to show you what the final difference looks like (posting on the internet at 500px wide). If you took those same images and posted them at their original resolutions, the medium format would be significantly larger. You can look at H4Z3Y's post to see the difference. I also have this: [img]http://i.imgur.com/83Zcx.png[/img]
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