• The "Which camera is right for me?" thread V2 - Get a used Rebel
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[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33071127]canon master race[/QUOTE] who cares
I used a D60 and kit lens for 2 years before growing out of it. People make too many excuses for why they need better hardware to get the photos they want.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;33071744] That's ridiculous. I've been using a 1000d for a year now and am no-where near growing out of it. A 1000d paired with a good lens is just as capable as a 60D in the vast majority of situations.[/QUOTE] Yeah, i know that i should really invest in a new lens (i've only got the 18-55 kit lens and the Canon EF-S 55-250 f/4,0-5,6 IS. Any good advice on a cheap good allround lens? Thinking about the Canon EF 24-105/4L IS USM, but it's abit too expensive for a high school student... ) but after i tried the 60D at my friends house it feels like i'm holding a toy with the 1100D. Sure, it's a great camera but it's just so... plasticy. Plus, the screen really sucks! Many times i've taken some photos that looks really great on the screen, but when i see them on my pc the autofocusing is off and the colors aren't at all what i thought they would be. I've also had some issues with the autofocusing, but that is probably the lenses fault..
learn how to manual focus then. i've been doing it since i got my camera, and i've gotten to the point where i can accurately focus with f1.2 glass.
[QUOTE=NisseN;33073042]Yeah, i know that i should really invest in a new lens (i've only got the 18-55 kit lens and the Canon EF-S 55-250 f/4,0-5,6 IS. Any good advice on a cheap good allround lens? Thinking about the Canon EF 24-105/4L IS USM, but it's abit too expensive for a high school student... ) but after i tried the 60D at my friends house it feels like i'm holding a toy with the 1100D. Sure, it's a great camera but it's just so... plasticy. Plus, the screen really sucks! Many times i've taken some photos that looks really great on the screen, but when i see them on my pc the autofocusing is off and the colors aren't at all what i thought they would be. I've also had some issues with the autofocusing, but that is probably the lenses fault..[/QUOTE] set af to centre point if you want to check focus, zoom in on the photo. try a tampon 17-50mm f/2.8
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33073577]set af to centre point if you want to check focus, zoom in on the photo. try a tampon 17-50mm f/2.8[/QUOTE] Will look that one up, thanks! After watching warships video (and because i'm such a fan of digitalrev) i became convinced that it's better if i invest in a good lens first, and then, when the 1100D becomes really outdated i'll probably buy a new body.
good stuff. i get mocked for my lack of video
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33073577] try a tampon 17-50mm f/2.8[/QUOTE] tampon huehue
[QUOTE=B-hazard;33071744]I hope you ride a motorcycle, do skydiving or something else like that. [editline]1st November 2011[/editline] That's ridiculous. I've been using a 1000d for a year now and am no-where near growing out of it. A 1000d paired with a good lens is just as capable as a 60D in the vast majority of situations.[/QUOTE] Yeah. I kinda regret buying a Canon 7D instead of a cheaper body with a nicer lens first. Not that the 7D is a shit camera, not at all, but buying a cheaper body paired with a nice lens just seems like the smarter choice now. Would've been the cheaper choice atleast ;)))
dude never regret the 7D. you have the 18-135 lens right? that thing kicks ass, i'm amazed with the sharpness my friend gets out of his pictures.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;33089932]dude never regret the 7D. you have the 18-135 lens right? that thing kicks ass, i'm amazed with the sharpness my friend gets out of his pictures.[/QUOTE] I don't have the 18-135 lens no. And like I said, I don't really regret buying the camera itself because it's fantastic, but maybe I would've been better off buying a cheaper camera with a good lens first instead of diving into this ~!pro!~ camera.
pick up a 50mm f1.8, they're like $100. But what lens did you get with it?
I'm looking for a good camera for someone who occasionally takes pictures for holidays, events and that kind of thing and in other cases wants to play around with photography. Taking pictures of landscapes, urban settings and macro photography, really a camera that would help me get into the world of photography. It would also be great if it can shoot proper 1080P video, so that I can use it as film camera as well. I used one of those consumer comparison sites and ended up with a Fujifilm FinePix HS20EXR, how's that one? Are there better ones for a similar price range (~400 euros)? Is it worth spending more? I'm generally interested in cameras with a high optical zoom, large ISO range, 1080P video, large sensor, lots of manual settings. I don't want a camera that shoots images at 16 MP where every other pixel is noise.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;33098856]pick up a 50mm f1.8, they're like $100. But what lens did you get with it?[/QUOTE] 50mm f1.8 :)))))
oh then yeah i think you are as good off as you could be. honestly fast primes are all i ever use or even want on my system, i can't really think of what other kinds of lenses i would want (besides that 24mm car zeiss lens ughhhh). [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Overv;33099191]I'm looking for a good camera for someone who occasionally takes pictures for holidays, events and that kind of thing and in other cases wants to play around with photography. Taking pictures of landscapes, urban settings and macro photography, really a camera that would help me get into the world of photography. It would also be great if it can shoot proper 1080P video, so that I can use it as film camera as well. I used one of those consumer comparison sites and ended up with a Fujifilm FinePix HS20EXR, how's that one? Are there better ones for a similar price range (~400 euros)? Is it worth spending more? I'm generally interested in cameras with a high optical zoom, large ISO range, 1080P video, large sensor, lots of manual settings. I don't want a camera that shoots images at 16 MP where every other pixel is noise.[/QUOTE] well i started from a similar scenario as you, and i ended up with this guy [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-NEX5KB-Compact-System-Camera/dp/B003OUX6TA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320339050&sr=8-3[/url] it's a small camera (large lens), with a DSLR sized sensor (not a 35mm size, but same as in most canons and nikons), it does 1080 60i and 30p. Extremely easy controls for someone who hasn't used much more than a compact camera, and it will certainly grow with you. definitely doesn't have a large optical zoom range, but has lots of manual settings and iso range with a large sensor, which you probably won't get out of that fujifilm. And the screen tilts and moves, which is honestly the greatest thing ever from a camera, you can hold it at waist level and shoot away. Micro 4/3rds cameras (like the olympus pen) are also a good option to look for, they have generally the same features but have smaller lenses. the reason I don't advocate the camera you are looking at is because of the sensor. out of a point and shoot, you will never get a large sensor (unless you get like a finepix x100). Sorry if this isn't totally helpful, if you want me to look into more cameras styled like that fujifilm I will.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;33104006]well i started from a similar scenario as you, and i ended up with this guy [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-NEX5KB-Compact-System-Camera/dp/B003OUX6TA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320339050&sr=8-3[/url] it's a small camera (large lens), with a DSLR sized sensor (not a 35mm size, but same as in most canons and nikons), it does 1080 60i and 30p. Extremely easy controls for someone who hasn't used much more than a compact camera, and it will certainly grow with you. definitely doesn't have a large optical zoom range, but has lots of manual settings and iso range with a large sensor, which you probably won't get out of that fujifilm. And the screen tilts and moves, which is honestly the greatest thing ever from a camera, you can hold it at waist level and shoot away. Micro 4/3rds cameras (like the olympus pen) are also a good option to look for, they have generally the same features but have smaller lenses. the reason I don't advocate the camera you are looking at is because of the sensor. out of a point and shoot, you will never get a large sensor (unless you get like a finepix x100). Sorry if this isn't totally helpful, if you want me to look into more cameras styled like that fujifilm I will.[/QUOTE] That is actually very helpful, that camera offers pretty much everything I need. Thanks man.
oh you're very welcome! also the best part about that camera for me is the amount of adaptable lenses you can get for it. Like old film lenses, you can use on it if you buy adapters on ebay, great way to get a versatile system on the cheap. if you have any questions feel free to ask, i know pretty much everything there is to know about that camera.
[QUOTE=Overv;33105906]That is actually very helpful, that camera offers pretty much everything I need. Thanks man.[/QUOTE] Also obligatory DRTV review [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhiHqF02tBQ[/media] [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] Take the "not sharp enough" part with a grain of salt though. As one person stated in the comments, it's perfectly fine.
yeah i don't have the 18-55 lens so i can't comment on the sharpness, but allegedly from some reviews i've read it's sharper than every kit micro 4/3rds lens.
bear in mind it doesn't shoot 1080p
What do you think I should get next to compliment a Nikon kit 18-55? Contemplating something with more zoom, as I keep getting stuck in situations I need more. Also contemplating getting a 50 1.8G to force me to move around and improve my framing. Thoughts?
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;33112199]What do you think I should get next to compliment a Nikon kit 18-55? Contemplating something with more zoom, as I keep getting stuck in situations I need more. Also contemplating getting a 50 1.8G to force me to move around and improve my framing. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]50 is fairly tight on a crop (assuming that's what you have) but the 1.8 is a magnificent lens, the bokeh, and then sharpness stopped down will be friggin brilliant. The 35 1.8 is also very very sharp but lacks the nice bokeh, a wider alternative. If you want a zoom it all comes down to price, as the 50 1.8 will probably be a good bit cheaper than anything with more focal length.
Not sure what my next purchase should be. 35L - Would be neat to have a wider 1.4 prime. Maybe I might like that length better than the 50? It would give me a lot of freedom in smaller spaces, although one of the things I try to go for when using a shallow depth of field (sue me) is to be able to have a large distance between the camera and the subject but still keep a [i]subtly[/i] out of focus background for large empty areas. I feel like the wider 35 might take some of the wind out of that. 50L - Already have a 1.4 which is my most used lens, maybe I should upgrade to get the absolute most out of what seems to be the perfect focal length? + I'd be able to make some money back selling off the 1.4. 85L - Speaks for itself, and would do perfectly what I'm worried the 35 wouldn't. It might be a little restricting, though. Would use up my entire budget, too. My dream team would be all 3, if I sold my 24-70 I could get pretty close to having the 35 and 50, and then it's just another year or so of saving before I have the 85. The problem is I might really miss the 24-70. This is a hard decision because I have to stick with what I choose for a long while. Thoughts?
[QUOTE=bopie;33114251]Not sure what my next purchase should be. 35L - Would be neat to have a wider 1.4 prime. Maybe I might like that length better than the 50? It would give me a lot of freedom in smaller spaces, although one of the things I try to go for when using a shallow depth of field (sue me) is to be able to have a large distance between the camera and the subject but still keep a [I]subtly[/I] out of focus background for large empty areas. I feel like the wider 35 might take some of the wind out of that. 50L - Already have a 1.4 which is my most used lens, maybe I should upgrade to get the absolute most out of what seems to be the perfect focal length? + I'd be able to make some money back selling off the 1.4. 85L - Speaks for itself, and would do perfectly what I'm worried the 35 wouldn't. It might be a little restricting, though. Would use up my entire budget, too. My dream team would be all 3, if I sold my 24-70 I could get pretty close to having the 35 and 50, and then it's just another year or so of saving before I have the 85. The problem is I might really miss the 24-70. This is a hard decision because I have to stick with what I choose for a long while. Thoughts?[/QUOTE] I have heard great things about the 85, know a photographer who basically swears by it. Hers produces some amazing radial bokeh Pretty sure this is shot with the 85, nice shallow DOF, really directs the eyes towards the main subject. [img]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229397_10150178147849205_166868174204_6940574_5498914_n.jpg[/img] Facebook rape
[QUOTE=bopie;33114251]Not sure what my next purchase should be. 35L - Would be neat to have a wider 1.4 prime. Maybe I might like that length better than the 50? It would give me a lot of freedom in smaller spaces, although one of the things I try to go for when using a shallow depth of field (sue me) is to be able to have a large distance between the camera and the subject but still keep a [i]subtly[/i] out of focus background for large empty areas. I feel like the wider 35 might take some of the wind out of that. 50L - Already have a 1.4 which is my most used lens, maybe I should upgrade to get the absolute most out of what seems to be the perfect focal length? + I'd be able to make some money back selling off the 1.4. 85L - Speaks for itself, and would do perfectly what I'm worried the 35 wouldn't. It might be a little restricting, though. Would use up my entire budget, too. My dream team would be all 3, if I sold my 24-70 I could get pretty close to having the 35 and 50, and then it's just another year or so of saving before I have the 85. The problem is I might really miss the 24-70. This is a hard decision because I have to stick with what I choose for a long while. Thoughts?[/QUOTE] Stick the 24-70 to 35mm for a few days of testing and see how that goes, do the same at 70 and see if you desire more? A 35 1.4 at night would be NEAT but I know what you mean when you speak about shallow dof. 85mm hmm, dat portrait lens. If you can, loan the lenses out because, its such a big investment that its better to take a small hit to find if something suits you or not.
[QUOTE=bopie;33114251]Thoughts?[/QUOTE] I would think that the 50L would suit you the best. Maybe you might want to rent the three lens's for a day and see which one(s) feel the best for you.
Thanks for the input homies. I think I've got it worked out. I'm going with the 85L. Reason no 35L: For wide shots, I can keep using the 24-70 like I have been. I would love having 35mm at 1.4 both for light and DOF options, but I can easily survive with 35 2.8. It's not like the 24-70 is bad at what it does, or anything. Reason no 50L: I've already got a 50 1.4 which does it's job perfectly, I'd benefit more from having a diverse arsenal by including the 85L. For the same reason, I'll be getting the 35L (if I still want it) sometime next year when I recover from purchasing the 85L. The 50 will most likely come last. Reason for 85L: It may have a narrow scope of uses, but it will be amazing at what it does. Plus, I'll be getting the hardest purchase out of the way for the other two later on down the road. Seem logical?
[QUOTE=bopie;33114720]Thanks for the input homies. I think I've got it worked out. I'm going with the 85L. Reason no 35L: For wide shots, I can keep using the 24-70 like I have been. I would love having 35mm at 1.4 both for light and DOF options, but I can easily survive with 35 2.8. It's not like the 24-70 is bad at what it does, or anything. Reason no 50L: I've already got a 50 1.4 which does it's job perfectly, I'd benefit more from having a diverse arsenal by including the 85L. For the same reason, I'll be getting the 35L (if I still want it) sometime next year when I recover from purchasing the 85L. The 50 will most likely come last. Reason for 85L: It may have a narrow scope of uses, but it will be amazing at what it does. Plus, I'll be getting the hardest purchase out of the way for the other two later on down the road. Seem logical?[/QUOTE] You won't be disappointed, I think you will push out some stunning work with it. You just have such a good eye for framing your shots.
The 85 makes the most sense for shooting people.
That comment sounds bad out of context
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