The "Which camera is right for me?" thread V2 - Get a used Rebel
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I did actually consider the 550D, but then I did a bit of research on the D5100 and it seems an overall better camera, sure it is the more expensive option, but that doesn't bother me.
have you been to a shop and tried it out?
I've tried the D5000 but not the D5100, the camera shop in my town recently re-opened so I will go in and give it a try sometime next week.
good stuff
try everything on offer, mp don't matter, don't expect af nikkors to af
The fanboyism in this thread is incredible :v:.
Get whatever, each have cheap lenses with autofocus.
its less fanboyism, more letting him choose what he wants. i don't want him to buy a d5100 then be sad when he's told he has to pay £100 more for a 50mm
[url]http://www.digitalrev.com/en/nikon-af-s-nikkor-50mm-f1-dot-8g-11718.html?category_id=0&search_string=50mm+g&search_category_id=0&match_type=1[/url] < £169.99
[url]http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-ef-50-f18-mk-ii-prime-lens-for-dslr-camera.html[/url] <£69.99
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33288830]its less fanboyism, more letting him choose what he wants. i don't want him to buy a d5100 then be sad when he's told he has to pay £100 more for a 50mm
[url]http://www.digitalrev.com/en/nikon-af-s-nikkor-50mm-f1-dot-8g-11718.html?category_id=0&search_string=50mm+g&search_category_id=0&match_type=1[/url] < £169.99
[url]http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-ef-50-f18-mk-ii-prime-lens-for-dslr-camera.html[/url] <£69.99[/QUOTE]
Assuming he wants a 50mm f/1.8.
There's a lot more to choosing a camera than the price of a 50mm f/1.8. If you're desperate enough for one, you could get a used D90 body for the same price as a new D5100 body, which is an even better and really fantastic (with the D300 sensor) camera.
actually, i'd recommend the d90 over the d5100
get a d90 poster
D90's are amazingly good cameras, video mode on them is incredible too. I'd say if possible get that, but if not the D5100 is a solid choice
no, the video on a d90 is terrible compared to current offerings, but it's a excellent photo camera
Nobody bought a D90 for the video, that feature was more of a tech demo.
It's very good if you want to do photography though.
Hey, the video's still not bad it's just compared to what newer dslrs are pumping out these days. It's nice to capture little snippets of life that a photograph can't capture.
I use it for convenience (videos of friends, random interesting things, etc), rather than for artistic use.
[QUOTE=D3vils Buddy;33279878]Hello, I love viewing the threads in here, espescially some of the amazing photos everyone keeps uploading.
I was considering getting a Nikon D5000 or would it be better to save up a bit more and get the D5100?[/QUOTE]
Get a d90
Should i buy FUJIFILM FinePix AV200 ? Cost's 48€ in pixmania.
Just need new camera, because my old one is broken. Will that do just some random pics? Kinda low budjet :/
Edit:
Lol, bought [B]Panasonic Lumix DMC-FS16[/B]. Was on sale on Verkkokauppa.com. Cost only 77€ with very fast delivery, so i think it was cheap.
Because i checked normal price in Finland is around 120€.
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33288830]its less fanboyism, more letting him choose what he wants. i don't want him to buy a d5100 then be sad when he's told he has to pay £100 more for a 50mm
[url]http://www.digitalrev.com/en/nikon-af-s-nikkor-50mm-f1-dot-8g-11718.html?category_id=0&search_string=50mm+g&search_category_id=0&match_type=1[/url] < £169.99
[url]http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-ef-50-f18-mk-ii-prime-lens-for-dslr-camera.html[/url] <£69.99[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-50mm-F1-8D-Nikkor-Lens/dp/B00005LEN4[/url]
???
oh wait D5100, right no AF motor.
But with the D90 it works!
Hey, my camera is very old and the lack of any kind of functionality is killing me. What'd be a good camera that can do time lapses, very long exposure and whatnot? TIA
[QUOTE=Parker;33302190]Hey, my camera is very old and the lack of any kind of functionality is killing me. What'd be a good camera that can do time lapses, very long exposure and whatnot? TIA[/QUOTE]
Any SLR, and $10 ebay intervalometer for time lapses.
Any recommendations for an SLR (preferably digital) approx. 100-250 pounds (150 - 400 dollars)?
I don't know too much about cameras (I have a couple of point & shoot and that's about it), but I tend to pick up how tech. works very quickly.
Other than looking for quality and reliability, I would prefer something with a low shutter delay.
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;33317541]Any recommendations for an SLR (preferably digital) approx. 100-250 pounds (150 - 400 dollars)?
I don't know too much about cameras (I have a couple of point & shoot and that's about it), but I tend to pick up how tech. works very quickly.
Other than looking for quality and reliability, I would prefer something with a low shutter delay.[/QUOTE]
You have almost no choice at £250.
All DSLRs have a short shutter delay, but in your price range you won't be able to find something "fast" (relatively). You can maybe get a second hand old entry level camera and kit lens for £250. Ebay for Canon 350D & Nikon D40.
It would seem that most DSLRs have a max shutter speed of 1/4000. Apparently that's for pretty fast objects in good lighting conditions. How would it fare in poor? What kind of speeds of objects would it start to blur with?
My question might be phrased badly, in which case, the first question would make more sense.
Shutter delay and shutter speed are 2 different things.
I thought you meant the delay between pushing the shutter and the picture being taken.
What exactly are you taking pictures of that need a shutter speed of 1/4000?
Shutter delay (shutter lag) is the time it takes the shutter to actually fire after the signal is received from the button. This is usually less than 100ms in consumer DSLR's. It's pretty much negligible in all uses besides sports or scientific purposes - 100ms is a playable latency in online games.
Regarding shutter speed, Consumer DSLR's will go up to 1/4000 like you said, and most pro bodies will go to 1/8000. The slowest speed most (if not all) DSLRs go to is 30 seconds, but of course there is bulb mode which means it can be indefinite, via holding the button down, using a computer connection, or a special remote/intervalometer.
Blurring has to do entirely with how fast the objects, or the camera is moving relative to the shutterspeed. Just as it is possible to get a perfectly sharp picture of a completely still scene at 30 seconds with a tripod, you could blur a bullet at 1/4000.
General rule of thumb is one second divided by the focal length is the longest shutter speed a person can handhold. For example, a 50mm lens shouldn't be handheld at speeds slower than 1/50 and 75mm shouldn't be handheld at slower than 1/75 and so on.
Also following the subject as it moves means the background will generally be more motion blurred than the subject.
No, I meant shutter speed. I need them to be as un-blurred as possible.
I don't necessarily need 1/4000, but I'd rather know for reference purposes. Bad experiences with shutter speeds in point & shoot.
On that note, what kinda' shutter speed would a typical point and shoot have? I have a fairly old Vivitar camera and it's incredibly slow in all but the brightest conditions.
A camera's worth is not measured by how fast it's shutter can operate, it would be like judging an engine solely by its maximum revs, even a tiny electric motor could reach infinitely higher revs than a truly powerful engine. :itisacaranalogy:
[release]Shutter speed is part of an equation (known as exposure) that is dependent on two variables.
1. ISO, the light-sensitivity of the film/sensor and 2. Aperture, the size of the opening that controls the amount of light getting on to the film/sensor.
Shutter speed, the third part, controls how long the light is exposed to the sensor.
If you have a low ISO and a small aperture, it will take more time for enough light to make the picture.
If you have a high ISO and a big aperture, it won't take as long to get the picture.
Controlling these settings allows you to control the exposure of the image. The trick/skill/art is finding a balance between them to get the right brightness (the real word is exposure) and desired effects, all while trying to minimize each of the three variables' downsides.
Give [url=http://photo.net/learn/basic-photo-tips/correct-exposure/]this[/url] a good read to get a more complete explanation. [b]As roll pointed out, it's not a complete explanation - my fault for just skimming[/b][/release]
That article doesn't mention that the higher the ISO you use, the noisier the image will be.
Different cameras have different levels of this "noise". An older or cheaper camera usually has worse ISO noise performance than something newer or more expensive, you can shoot ISO 800 without any issues on a D7000, but, for example, on a D40, shooting at 800 will have very noticeable noise on the image.
Image quality can still be great on a camera that has poor high ISO performance though, at lower ISOs.
Roll_Program and bopie provide the perfect duality in photographic explanations.
My 550d is arriving next week! :D Kit lens just now but I hear a 50mm is good for a nice filmic look? (I can see my self using the video a lot).
Does anyone have a picture with an 18-55mm at it's widest angle?
[QUOTE=LasGunz;33327400]My 550d is arriving next week! :D Kit lens just now but I hear a 50mm is good for a nice filmic look? (I can see my self using the video a lot).
Does anyone have a picture with an 18-55mm at it's widest angle?[/QUOTE]
These are on a Nikon, but they're all taken at 18mm.
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5244415598/]Untitled[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5243200921/]Ciara[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5243202285/]Henry[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5266922882/]My feet, Ciara's hands[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5266309123/]Canberra Sunset + Ciara[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5267101296/]Untitled[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5332616157/]Liam's Domain[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5385369402/]Deal Sea Wall[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5468077199/]North[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5533424796/]King[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwinquast/5532839923/]Untitled[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/edwinquast/]edwin.quast[/url], on Flickr
Don't let anybody tell you you're restricted using a kit lens. You can get nice results using almost anything. A kit lens is incredibly versatile, but man, do I love shooting at 18.
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