• The "Which camera is right for me?" thread V2 - Get a used Rebel
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Hi everyone, looking for advice on buying my first DSLR. I was looking for a quality camera. Currently studying architecture at uni, so need a decent camera for taking good pictures of landscapes and (mainly) buildings, suitable for all-weather outdoor use. But on the other hand, I need it to take good quality images of small models for mockups of buildings. Am I right in thinking I need a macro lens for that? A screen that flips out and rotates (not sure what that is called) would be preferred, but not essential. My budget is around £400-£600. I was looking at the Canon 600D. Is this overkill for what I want it for? Sorry if my criteria have already been answered.
[QUOTE=Kaburorne;33772348]Hi everyone, looking for advice on buying my first DSLR. I was looking for a quality camera. Currently studying architecture at uni, so need a decent camera for taking good pictures of landscapes and (mainly) buildings, suitable for all-weather outdoor use. But on the other hand, I need it to take good quality images of small models for mockups of buildings. Am I right in thinking I need a macro lens for that? A screen that flips out and rotates (not sure what that is called) would be preferred, but not essential. My budget is around £400-£600. I was looking at the Canon 600D. Is this overkill for what I want it for? Sorry if my criteria have already been answered.[/QUOTE] Unless the models are matchbox sized or something, you'll be fine without a macro lens. Any current generation entry level camera kit is fine, for your needs. Any geometric distortion caused by the lenses the Canon or Nikon kits come with can be corrected in photoshop, using its built in lens profiles, which will allow for nice straight lines when taking pictures of architecture. One thing I might say is that if the models are indoors, when the light isn't so good, and you don't like using flash, you might like the idea of getting a "50mm f/1.8" (Canon and Nikon each have a version), which basically is a lens which is cheap and lets a lot of light through to the camera sensor. This allows you to not use flash, when if otherwise, you might have to, if using a kit lens. The Canon 600D and Nikon D5100 both have flip out screens and are <£600.
[QUOTE=Kaburorne;33772348]Hi everyone, looking for advice on buying my first DSLR. I was looking for a quality camera. Currently studying architecture at uni, so need a decent camera for taking good pictures of landscapes and (mainly) buildings, suitable for all-weather outdoor use. But on the other hand, I need it to take good quality images of small models for mockups of buildings. Am I right in thinking I need a macro lens for that? A screen that flips out and rotates (not sure what that is called) would be preferred, but not essential. My budget is around £400-£600. I was looking at the Canon 600D. Is this overkill for what I want it for? Sorry if my criteria have already been answered.[/QUOTE] d5100
Haha yeah, they're not that small. As for lighting, I'm trying to shoot models outdoors or next to a window when I can, but if not we have proper lighting in the uni studio. Thanks for the wonderful reply! I don't know whether to rate you friendly or informative! I'm glad that all the entry kits are fine, means I can't fuck up :v:
600d master race the video on it is unsurpassed in it's class mic input and manual levels and stuff
[QUOTE=Kaburorne;33772651]Haha yeah, they're not that small. As for lighting, I'm trying to shoot models outdoors or next to a window when I can, but if not we have proper lighting in the uni studio. Thanks for the wonderful reply! I don't know whether to rate you friendly or informative! I'm glad that all the entry kits are fine, means I can't fuck up :v:[/QUOTE] Just remember, they have automatic exposure, but not automatic photographer. Learn the basics of the technicalities of photography, it can help a lot. Just going out an experimenting, with the camera on manual (tweaking the shutter speed, ISO and aperture yourself), can also be a great way to learn fast. [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33772670]600d master race the video on it is unsurpassed in it's class mic input and manual levels and stuff[/QUOTE] Mic input is pretty much the only pro. Your replies in this forum are always [I]sooooo[/I] useful.
Definitely. A couple of days experimenting sounds fun. [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] Oh also two more questions :v: Are the "class 10" SDHC cards worth it? I know they say they're faster but it's hard to tell whether that's just marketing guff or not. Is there any benefit to being faster? And is it worth me getting a UV protection filter? I'll be doing lots of outside shots on sunny days. Let me know if I'm taking over the thread too much, can add me on steam or whatever :v:
transcend class 10 is total shit, avoid them. really snow, bad quality and my 8gb died in a few months. i have a lexar class 10 16GB, much better card, cost me £16 from [url=http://www.mymemory.co.uk/SDHC/Lexar/Lexar-16GB-100X-Premium-Series-SD-%28SDHC%29-Card---Class-10]here[/url] [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Roll_Program;33772690] Mic input is pretty much the only pro. Your replies in this forum are always [I]sooooo[/I] useful.[/QUOTE] thanks roll, yours are pretty good too
[QUOTE=Kaburorne;33772718]Definitely. A couple of days experimenting sounds fun. [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] Oh also two more questions :v: Are the "class 10" SDHC cards worth it? I know they say they're faster but it's hard to tell whether that's just marketing guff or not. Is there any benefit to being faster? And is it worth me getting a UV protection filter? I'll be doing lots of outside shots on sunny days. Let me know if I'm taking over the thread too much, can add me on steam or whatever :v:[/QUOTE] UV filters are used for protecting the front lens element. Better to accidentally scratch a £25 filter than a £150 lens. And in your case, any class will be fine.
Well thank you very much, especially Roll_Program, for all your help. I'm gonna sleep on it, and post my basket for you guys to approve tomorrow. Cheers.
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Possibly looking to upgrade from a Nikon D3000, what would be my best upgrade options? My main gripes with it were the lack of an autofocus motor, the poor low light performance, and of ability to add dohickys like a wireless remote. Having those, plus possibly video, would be great. Any suggestions?
If you're planning on doing video, I highly recommend Canon or Sony over Nikon, Sony especially if you're looking for decent AF in video mode. I'd suggest an A65 if you're going the Sony route, or 60D if you're looking into Canon. As far as using your current lenses, there's a plethora of adapters available from eBay and Amazon, though it might be better to sell or trade your used Nikons for used Sonys or Canons.
If you already have the Nikon lenses and you like how their cameras handle the d7000 is a thing of beauty (but if you don't have enough dosh you could always get a d90- not very good with video but awesome none the less).
Right. I'm thinking of going for the Nikon D5100, like Alcapwne suggested, with the 18-55mm lens. [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-18-55mm-VR-Lens-Kit/dp/tech-data/B004U4UHTQ/ref=de_a_smtd[/url] Would this UV filter fit that lens? [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000BGZMSI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A25W0NNIZADJ5F[/url]
[QUOTE=Kaburorne;33778615]Right. I'm thinking of going for the Nikon D5100, like Alcapwne suggested, with the 18-55mm lens. [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-18-55mm-VR-Lens-Kit/dp/tech-data/B004U4UHTQ/ref=de_a_smtd[/url] Would this UV filter fit that lens? [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000BGZMSI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A25W0NNIZADJ5F[/url][/QUOTE] In terms of image quality, it is better than the 600D and even the 60D. It really is very good for video as well, despite what people may have you think, it has an external microphone and flip out screen, and also has continuous autofocus in video which stuff like the 600D don't have. It makes a little noise when doing it but if you're shooting video seriously you'll be using an external audio recorder or a decent boom mic at the very least so it's not that much of a problem. and yeah that filter will fit okay
Sweet thanks. I'll order it now so it comes tomorrow with Prime :D
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;33778660]In terms of image quality, it is better than the 600D and even the 60D. [/QUOTE] erm... evidence? [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] a for video - no manual levels a must if you have an external mic
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33779357]erm... evidence? [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] a for video - no manual levels a must if you have an external mic[/QUOTE] [url]http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_60D-vs-Nikon-D5100[/url]
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;33779357]erm... evidence? [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] a for video - no manual levels a must if you have an external mic[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Canon/EOS-60D[/url] [url]http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Nikon/D5100[/url] [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] You'll get better results with the D5100.
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;33779518] You'll get better results with the D5100.[/QUOTE] didn't you say image quality didn't matter ages ago? idk it was someone here [editline]18th December 2011[/editline] i mean, you are a nikon fanboy you just try disguise it
Someone's mad. Not in a fanboy way though. If you're going to spend the money, you may as well get what'll get you the best images, as far as the camera can help.
wait, if image quality doesn't matter then what does?
What I usually say is that you can get great results with any DSLR, but it's nice to have the nicest image quality you can have, in the right hands.
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;33779793]What I usually say is that you can get great results with any DSLR, but it's nice to have the nicest image quality you can have, in the right hands.[/QUOTE] that makes much more sense, I concur
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;33779768]wait, if image quality doesn't matter then what does?[/QUOTE] it does, but the little differences like dxomark won't be seen in the real world
The 60D also has a faster shutter at 1/8000 of a second while the D5100 only goes up to 1/4000 of a second. The 60D also has a higher burst rate at 5.3 fps while the D5100 is at 4.0fps. So you also have these factors as well to consider when purchasing one of the two cameras.
I've never used 1/4000 in my life, or a fast burst. They're really minor features.
is the diff in IQ significant? like can i took at two photos and see it? i have used 1/4000 i use burst sometimes, that 2fps could be the difference between getting the shot and not
I forgot that camera quality if signified by how fast the shutter can go and how fast you can spray and pray. Edit: I'm losing my edge when it comes to sarcasm :v:.
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