• What would be the best minimum age to vote?
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[QUOTE=Explosions;27227843]Butthurt because he won't get to vote in the next election.[/QUOTE] Not really, I am going to get to vote in the next election dipshit. I'll be 18 this year :derp: Who's going to get the dumb rating now? [b] YOUUUUUUUUUUUU! [/b]
18, when you actually understand what you're voting for.
If you're old enough to go out and die for your country then you better have the right to decide who's sending you off to die.
17 or 18 [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Nsybouts;27226476]I personally think 21 because the average 18 year old usually doesn't give a shit about politics[/QUOTE] Just because they don't give a shit doesn't mean they have to vote. Those that [i]do[/i] give a shit should have the option to do so.
18+ but only because most high school kids don't know a lick of shit about politics or care.
If people were allowed to vote at a younger age, Al Gore would be the first president to have killed a beast such as ManBearPig.
16 imo, people don't get interested in politics before 18 because there's no point if they can't vote.
[QUOTE=blubafoon;27231630]16 imo, people don't get interested in politics before 18 because there's no point if they can't vote.[/QUOTE] Maybe, but ending high school definitely has a lot to do with it. 18 is that point where society more or less throws you out on you own. People begin to understand that they're part of the real world, so to speak. People tend to take a lot more responsibility for themselves, which seems to include an interest in politics. I doubt you'd have nearly as much turnout for voting in the 16-17 range as you do in the 18-19.
I'd say whatever age this population has thought through the decision and not just picking the most redneck guy and listening to every word that exits his mouth.
Age is the wrong way to measure when someone should be allowed to vote. Personally, I reckon an IQ of 100 or over should be required.
16 is fine At least for me, it influences people to get some interest in politics earlier.
[QUOTE=nikomo;27235678]Age is the wrong way to measure when someone should be allowed to vote. Personally, I reckon an IQ of 100 or over should be required.[/QUOTE] [img]http://antoverlord.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/race-and-iq.jpeg[/img] but wouldn't that mean the majority of black people couldn't vote - resulting in same shit as the literacy tests? [I]disclaimer: not advocating racism, eugenics nor presenting that graph found on the internet as being true[/I]
16, because age doesn't really matters if it isn't compulsory. [QUOTE=Edthefirst;27225820]In Brazil (as shown in the map), the voting age is 16. The difference is that voting is compulsory, but only once you hit 18. So most 16 year olds don't vote anyway.[/QUOTE] And that's exactly the problem with Brazil, everyone is forced to vote while most of the population doesn't give a shit about it, with compulsory voting everyone will just pick whatever they hear about more and the candidate with more money to invest on propaganda wins, the elections are basically rigged that way. So 16 is very well enough to vote if you have the choice, the ones who doesn't care about politics simply won't vote and the ones who care are informed enough to do it and understand it's importance, leaving it up to tests or graduations are plain bullshit and will simply take us back to the middle age again.
It shouldn't be below sixteen because those damn anarchist kids and their wild ideas about shit!
[QUOTE=evilking1;27235718][img_thumb]http://antoverlord.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/race-and-iq.jpeg[/img_thumb] but wouldn't that mean the majority of black people couldn't vote - resulting in same shit as the literacy tests? [I]disclaimer: not advocating racism, eugenics nor presenting that graph found on the internet as being true[/I][/QUOTE] The graph is true. This was a big unit in my social psychology courses. It really details the after affects of racism and cultures that tend to build within the different "races." Which is the important thing to remember.
Hard to judge because the ones that really should vote are those that not only know basics about politics, i.e. "lol whuts a preshidents??", but they also have to know who to trust and why and from where to get news that are as objective as possible, they have to know how to analyze a political situation unbiased, etc. Many can't do anything near that at the age of 18 (at least in my area), they're too busy "enjoying life". But I think 18 is fair age because those people in general already thought about their future and thus take such things seriously. In theory anyway. Tough question, I doubt we'll ever find an answer. Age isn't a very good way of determining whose mind is "responsible and mature enough" to do something with their voting power as it's intended, but then again I don't see a good alternative emerging anytime soon. /2 cents
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;27225575]I think everyone should have to pass a political test before they can vote, fuck age requirements.[/QUOTE] And who would that test be made by? I'm really afraid that would be able to be misused badly.
25. let your brain develop.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;27225471]18+ Only way I'd support under 18 if they had to pass a political test first.[/QUOTE] EVERYONE should have to do that
Fuck the age limit, they should let you vote based on what qualifications you have. I don't care if it's a democracy, many laws get passed here in the UK without us even knowing about them before it's too late - I garuntee you the BNP wouldn't have a single seat if you had to be clever to vote.
18
[QUOTE=Jasun;27236855]Fuck the age limit, they should let you vote based on what qualifications you have. I don't care if it's a democracy, many laws get passed here in the UK without us even knowing about them before it's too late - I garuntee you the BNP wouldn't have a single seat if you had to be clever to vote.[/QUOTE] Lot of votes for BNP probably were just protest votes against what bad immigration has caused to the people living in UK. Muslim extremist terrorism, eight of criminals sitting in prison being immigrants, etc. Parties like that have been rising like mushrooms in the rain all over Europe. Griffin was/is a quite extremist nationalist though.
A political test is genuinely the worst idea I've heard in months. I believe 16/17 is appropriate: I mean, it's very easy to target schools for cuts and there's little to nothing students can do about it. When pensioners in Ireland were forced to take, in my opinion, a fairly moderate cut in the budget before last there was outcry and it was reversed, the cuts schools took were only increased in the latest budget. I'm biased, being in school and all, but in my opinion education is more important that a blanket guarantee of free prescriptions for old people. Also, the idea of a test reminds me of the old British system where your vote was proportional to how much property you owned, it more or less guaranteed that the status quo was maintained and that's exactly what a test would do.
[QUOTE=evilking1;27237165]Lot of votes for BNP probably were just protest votes against what bad immigration has caused to the people living in UK. Muslim extremist terrorism, eight of criminals sitting in prison being immigrants, etc. Parties like that have been rising like mushrooms in the rain all over Europe. Griffin was/is a quite extremist nationalist though.[/QUOTE] I thought BNP votes were drunk teens having a laugh.
[QUOTE=RubberFruit;27237177]I thought BNP votes were drunk teens having a laugh.[/QUOTE] Or those who were bombed in a subway in the name of Islam. Things like that cause fear, and more votes for the BNP.
[QUOTE=evilking1;27237241]Or those who were bombed in a subway in the name of Islam. Things like that cause fear, and more votes for the BNP.[/QUOTE] ...People who were bombed are dead so um
[QUOTE=RubberFruit;27237273]...People who were bombed are dead so um[/QUOTE] um if you get a shard in your leg it doesn't mean you die 100% you can get like uh injured
I'd say when you've finished school up to X stage (College maybe?) Would make them more knowledgeable about the history of the country.
14 would make Pirating legalized. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] But I'm for 20 to be honest.
The majority of the voting public are worse than teenagers, they'll get their whole church to go vote for a specific candidate. There's so much indoctrination and bullshit that no age limit will make a difference. You're still sampling groups of people, not specific sects made up of political mindsets.
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