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But, can you also use it like an Economy switch?
Ive used the FWD feature before when i had a flat. Its the same in my Impreza. Its only on auto models, of course. Also, some people may think that makes it okay to dolly the car with front wheels on the dolly only. It doesnt, youll still destroy the center diff.
[QUOTE=Del91;42730679]But, can you also use it like an Economy switch?[/QUOTE] 4eat center diffs are designed so that when going smoothly (eg, driving on the highway or in city at a constant speed,) the diff split is 90/10 F/R to save gas. Floor it, and it switches to 50/50. If it senses slippage, 50/50. If you put it down in 3/2/1, its a 50/50 split. Its possible to wire in switches for FWD mode, as well as force the center diff to always be 50/50. Some people have tested, the FWD mode doesnt save much gas if any due to the 90/10 split at constant speeds
Ive alway used 4 seasons tire even if its not legal, ive had no problem with them, i know their limit.
You'd think it would if the engine is spinning all...uh would it just be one in the front and one in the back unless you had a LSD/s?...with the engine only powering one wheel, even if it does still have to lug around the AWD components. IIRC, AWD does help with stability and all that but it sucks a little more fuel. I don't really know a whole lot about AWD systems tbh :P [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] clocks [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FordLord;42730716]4eat center diffs are designed so that when going smoothly (eg, driving on the highway or in city at a constant speed,) the diff split is 90/10 F/R to save gas.[/QUOTE] That's kind of what I thought, but I don't know if all AWD systems are like this, or if it's a Subbie thing.
[QUOTE=Del91;42730726]You'd think it would if the engine is spinning all...uh would it just be one in the front and one in the back unless you had a LSD/s?...with the engine only powering one wheel, even if it does still have to lug around the AWD components. IIRC, AWD does help with stability and all that but it sucks a little more fuel. I don't really know a whole lot about AWD systems tbh :P [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] clocks [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] That's kind of what I thought, but I don't know if all AWD systems are like this, or if it's a Subbie thing.[/QUOTE] Subaru's use a symmetrical AWD system, it does pretty good getting power to all 4 even without an LSD. I can spin all 4 and do donuts around telephone poles and i have no LSD. I think quite a few AWD systems are similar, but last i knew, Subaru is the only one with a symmetrical setup.
This is why I want a Subaru and I almost got one yesterday if the dude didn't want too much for it..
[QUOTE=Ldesu;42731090]This is why I want a Subaru and I almost got one yesterday if the dude didn't want too much for it..[/QUOTE] Having a Subaru is pretty great. Its nice climbing in in the morning, knowing that whether the temperature is -40f or 110f, that H4 Boxer will start right up. It always puts a smile on my face when i power through a sharp corner with no wheel slippage and zero torque steer. Its also pretty fun pulling into an empty dirt parking lot, and start drifting around obstacles, until you find the perfect line to chain drifts. Scared the crap out of my friend when i flew into a parking lot, did a donut around a telephone pole, drifted around a U shaped part in the driveway, and ended the chain by drifting a U around the other telephone pole onto the tarmac. You could say owning a Subaru is a bit like owning a classic Beetle. Some may like it, some may not. Even if youve got the lowest model, its still a car that you can really fall in love with and always look forward to driving. Its a unique car in its own way, classic Beetles use a flat engine if im not mistaken, while Subaru also uses a flat Boxer engine
[QUOTE=Serj22;42728762]a FWD car and any all season tires would probably hold its own in the snow.[/QUOTE] I tried this last year and I ended up in a ditch, as pictured here: [img]http://puu.sh/56tmy.jpg[/img]
How fast were you going at the time? :P
About 60km/h I'd guess
[QUOTE=KillerTele;42731919]I tried this last year and I ended up in a ditch, as pictured here: [url]http://puu.sh/56tmy.jpg[/url][/QUOTE] Reminds me, my car doesn't have mudflaps. [B]COULD [/B]probably ghettofab some out of old discarded vinyl flooring, would be ugly though but that's not a problem a can of spraypaint can't solve :v:
[QUOTE=FordLord;42731257]Having a Subaru is pretty great. Its nice climbing in in the morning, knowing that whether the temperature is -40f or 110f, that H4 Boxer will start right up. It always puts a smile on my face when i power through a sharp corner with no wheel slippage and zero torque steer. Its also pretty fun pulling into an empty dirt parking lot, and start drifting around obstacles, until you find the perfect line to chain drifts. Scared the crap out of my friend when i flew into a parking lot, did a donut around a telephone pole, drifted around a U shaped part in the driveway, and ended the chain by drifting a U around the other telephone pole onto the tarmac. You could say owning a Subaru is a bit like owning a classic Beetle. Some may like it, some may not. Even if youve got the lowest model, its still a car that you can really fall in love with and always look forward to driving. Its a unique car in its own way, classic Beetles use a flat engine if im not mistaken, while Subaru also uses a flat Boxer engine[/QUOTE] I was in contact with a dude that was willing to trade his 98 Forester for my Golf and he wanted something between, and I expected that, so I offered him my rc nitro cars or three subwoofers with speakers and amps but he wanted the golf, rc nitro cars [I]and[/I] money. I just don't have any money and I'm not even joking :v: [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] If I did have money I would drive a Forester now :c
Subarus are way too expensive anywhere with snow.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;42732236]Subarus are way too expensive anywhere with snow.[/QUOTE] It was actually really fucking cheap, like $2000, but I only have things to trade him with and he wanted money [I]aswell[/I] so I couldn't
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;42732236]Subarus are way too expensive anywhere with snow.[/QUOTE] Ive noticed the opposite. I moved from a very snowy place, where the prices were reasonable, to a warmer place that never gets snow. Here, the prices are a lot higher
They're just super popular here. :v:
[QUOTE=Del91;42730726]You'd think it would if the engine is spinning all...uh would it just be one in the front and one in the back unless you had a LSD/s?...with the engine only powering one wheel, even if it does still have to lug around the AWD components. IIRC, AWD does help with stability and all that but it sucks a little more fuel. I don't really know a whole lot about AWD systems tbh :P [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] clocks [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] That's kind of what I thought, but I don't know if all AWD systems are like this, or if it's a Subbie thing.[/QUOTE] my last truck lsd rear and locker front.. never got stuck. usually had snowflake rated tires. [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FordLord;42730774]Subaru's use a symmetrical AWD system, it does pretty good getting power to all 4 even without an LSD. I can spin all 4 and do donuts around telephone poles and i have no LSD. I think quite a few AWD systems are similar, but last i knew, Subaru is the only one with a symmetrical setup.[/QUOTE] that just means the axle shafts are the same length subaru is still open/ open in most cases. few have lsd rear. but the have a great center diff. they like most newer awd/4x4 use brakes to stop one wheel from spinning to send power to the other. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq9qbUYvi8U[/media]
The axle shafts being the same length help a lot with sending power to all 4 wheels. Mine acts like it does have an LSD in the rear. Quite a few have an LSD in the rear, some have a locked rear, and some have an LSD front and rear. The brakes trick really doesnt work on Subaru's. Its pretty rare that the wheels do spin differently, ive flexed mine out before and it still powered all wheels. But once i did manage to get stuck on the side of a snowmobile trail. I was going along and it suddenly went from icy hardpack, to 1'of icy slush. I had issues getting power to all four, and the brake trick didnt help
Not really trick on the newer ones. How do u think it sends power, the computer slows the spinning wheel and sends power to the other tire. I know my moms 11 outback premium 2.5i cvt is open open. Does great till u start lifting tires off the ground.
Thank you guys. I read everything and there was some really useful info. Its nice to have some more info. There are tons of cheap chinese tires that might as well be made out of on the market, so it was really hard figuring out what to get. My region doesnt always get heavy snow, but from november to april there is almost frost every night. Also, I think its required by law to have snowflake marked tires here.
[QUOTE=Steff;42758692]Thank you guys. I read everything and there was some really useful info. Its nice to have some more info. There are tons of cheap chinese tires that might as well be made out of on the market, so it was really hard figuring out what to get. My region doesnt always get heavy snow, but from november to april there is almost frost every night. Also, I think its required by law to have snowflake marked tires here.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.fdm.dk/biler/daektest-vinterdaek-2013-18560-r15t[/URL] [URL]http://www.fdm.dk/biler/daektest-vinterdaek-2013-22545-r17h[/URL]
I usually dont trust FDM. They are kinda full of themselves sometimes, and Im pretty sure they get paid to endorse some products over others. Sure, they do really give a lot of good and useful advise very often but as soon they start telling you that only the luxury brand of [X] product/service is the best, that is were I start getting suspicious.
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