From a moral standpoint it should be legal, but from a logistical standpoint it would be so hard to police. People could get away with murder very easily if the victim was in a quadriplegic state and a family member wanted to kill them. It's a difficult issue made worse by those in similar conditions to Stephen Hawking who without mechanical help (that I imagine requires training) can't give their opinion yet are clearly not devoid of rational and life-loving thought and emotion.
There's too many reasons to say YEAH ITS TOTALLY FINE but for some of the more serious ones it can be worse to leave people will severe illnesses alive.
If people want to die let them die.
I agree if you have to wait for 2 weeks so you can think about whether you really want to go through with it(assuming it's like a "death shop" where you just ask to be killed). Not if they're in a state of suicidal depression or something though, then they obviously aren't thinking very rationally. Just if they've decided they've lived a good life and there's nothing more for them to do or if they're gravely ill and don't want to continue with the pain.
I'n bordering on illegal , because if it were legal the potential for mis-use would be high.
[QUOTE=Whomobile;24636946]If their in immense pain, they should be obliged to receive treatment for said pain.
And if the pain is that bad, they would probably will die soon anyway.[/QUOTE]
Fuck off, cancer takes a long time to kill you. And from what I've seen, it's pretty painful. Which is why I am against advertising of smoking. And why I am for coming down on underage smokers. But they can still be sold, and smokers should still be allowed to smoke, 18+ year olds are mature enough to think for themselves.
To be honest, I only believe it should be allowed in extreme circumstances. Things like terminal illness which you're in extreme pain. In other words yes, I think it should be legal. If someone wishes to die, they should have that right. I might not think it is a good idea or support it, but it isn't my right to tell someone what to do with their life.
Everyone wants to control one another. You help someone in killing themselves and people will try to control you and send you to jail for it. They don't care about what you did, they just want to know they have authority over you, and use what you did as an excuse.
Democracy sucks. [sp]Everyone votes for an asshole power maniac in disguise.[/sp]
If someone wants to die and they can live a somewhat normal life, I think it's best to try to convince them to not end their life. If they cannot live a normal life, I say help them.
Assisted suicide is okay if the reasons are physical and not mental, and if the family has formally agreed to accept the action.
I do believe it's up to you if you want to be put out of your misery, yes.
But the problem is, no one would want to end someone's life.
It's too risky - it'll be something that will be abused.
Someone wants to die but doesn't want to do it themselves, kill them.
Nonreligious, in favor.
If you do it properly I suppose, stabbing your family and friends in the chest in their sleep could easily be substituted with a trip to the hospital to get killed. I do think getting convicted of murder for helping someone kill themselves or worse is over the top and just some idiots trying to control your life more than needed, like how getting caught with attempted suicide is illegal if I'm not mistaken.
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;24638590]If you do it properly I suppose, stabbing your family and friends in the chest in their sleep could easily be substituted with a trip to the hospital to get killed. I do think getting convicted of murder for helping someone kill themselves or worse is over the top and just some idiots trying to control your life more than needed, like how getting caught with attempted suicide is illegal if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]
Lucky people like this don't get into the Legislature. Seriously, that made no sense - and the point I think you were trying to make scares me.
I say it should depend on the situation. Someone who just wants to die because he or she lost their legs or something like that shouldn't just give up. Now if they're in a coma or something extremely serious then I could see euthanasia being acceptable.
Should be legal provided subject can be shown to be in good mental health, capable enough to make a reasonable decision about it.
[QUOTE=xDrTran;24638063]I do believe it's up to you if you want to be put out of your misery, yes.
But the problem is, no one would want to end someone's life.[/QUOTE]
Out of almost 7 billion people on Earth, don't you think you could at least find ONE person that wouldn't give a shit? Plus, look at prisoners that get killed by lethal injection. You can still find people that are willing to do that.
It doesn't matter if its legal or not. Suicidal people will try to kill themselves. So it's really best just to make it illegal so the country can have a better image, suicide should never be promoted. It's not like you can stop someone from killing themselves.
On assisted suicide however, I'm going to have to say no. In order for that to work you would have to legally integrate it into the medical system, which would be forcing doctors to kill people when they don't want to. Most doctors wouldn't do it, either from moral issues or because they already have too much shit to deal with. In order to legalize doctor assisted suicide you would need to have all doctors be legally required to kill someone on command, which goes against many of their principles.
The only time where I see it fit to kill someone is when they are a vegetable. And that's the family's choice.
[QUOTE=Murkat;24638960]Out of almost 7 billion people on Earth, don't you think you could at least find ONE person that wouldn't give a shit? Plus, look at prisoners that get killed by lethal injection. You can still find people that are willing to do that.[/QUOTE]
Killing people who've gone on killing sprees is different to a little old lady.
That said, yeah, I do believe we could find someone, but how many...?
[QUOTE=Murkat;24638960]Out of almost 7 billion people on Earth, don't you think you could at least find ONE person that wouldn't give a shit? Plus, look at prisoners that get killed by lethal injection. You can still find people that are willing to do that.[/QUOTE]
Most doctors wouldn't do that, and people will be admitted into hospitals. They can't be moved to another hospital just because they want to kill themselves.
I voted Nonreligious - legal, because i just picture myself when i grow old. I don't want to become a vegetable, who eats through a tube and can't even wipe my own ass. I'm not trying for a world record or anything, i'd like to pass on before i reach the state of my life where i couldn't even commit suicide if i would. My dad thinks the same way, and i for one wont be the person standing in his way when the time comes, simply because i wouldn't want him to be in my way if i was in his shoes
[QUOTE=latin_geek;24638287]Someone wants to die but doesn't want to do it themselves, kill them.
Nonreligious, in favor.[/QUOTE]
Fuck that. They want to leave that shit on someone else's conscience because they're too pussy to do it. Cmon.
I'm fine with it, if their quality of life sucks. I don't think everyone with depression and suicidal thoughts should have an easy way to kill themselves, sometimes they are going through a phase and will get over it. Other times all they need is treatment and they will rid themselves of their depression.
unreligious legal
If someone is truly in enough pain to want to die, I think he/she should have the right.
Killing yourself is the most egoistical thing to do, of all time.
Also, killing yourself is for sissies, man up.
You should be allowed to kill yourself if you are braindead/other asshole diseases.
they would have to go through a mental test to make sure that you're sane enough to decide for yourself/get a family member to decide for you with a good reason
the whole thing should be recorded and submitted with correct paperwork to avoid foul play
[QUOTE=Oecleus;24639219]I'm fine with it, if their quality of life sucks. I don't think everyone with depression and suicidal thoughts should have an easy way to kill themselves, sometimes they are going through a phase and will get over it. Other times all they need is treatment and they will rid themselves of their depression.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Suicide should never be promoted just "my life sucks".
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;24639548]Are you fucking kidding?
It's your own life who gives a shit if you're mentally stable, it's what you want either way.
And I hate assholes that say, "suicide is selfish, look what your parents and friends have to go through".
No, no, that's fucking WRONG. To say that is SELFISH. You're going to make someone stay alive, because YOU want them to? They're in a depression, they hate their life, and they're in the shitter, and they have to fucking put up with it because they don't want their parents to be sad?
Really? That's not fucking right to say. It's your own life and you should be able to do whatever the hell you want with it. Saying that committing suicide is selfish is fucking cruel and selfish in itself.
And what I hate most of all, are religious people that mourn and bullshit around when a loved one dies.
GET THE FUCK OVER IT. "They're in a better place". Okay, well, you believe they're in heaven, so what the fuck is the problem asshole. Stop being a selfish mother fucker and be happy they're in heaven, stop feeling sorry for yourself and get up off your ass. You're going to die too someday and I don't think you'd be happy if you had a bunch of dumbasses bitching and mourning when you died. I know I don't. I would just want people to get over it when I die.[/QUOTE]
You just said if a mentally unstable person wants to kill themselves it's their decision and they should do be allowed to do it.
Your statement is invalid and you have no understanding of the human psyche. Please leave that to the psychologists.
I think if they can't physically do it themselves they should be allowed to. If they are just depressed or something don't allow it.
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