• Enough With This Antibullying Bullshit
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[QUOTE=TheGronk;29374025]Name three things that are not good for you, even if you did/had it in moderation.[/QUOTE] Cyanide Getting stabbed in the face Nickelback
[QUOTE=BrQ;29372295]Uh, if he expects to get bullied to depression over it, should he still come out?[/QUOTE] How about we go after the discriminators instead of ostracizing the victims good lord
Don't protest against your corrupt government, it probably won't change anything.
How is bullying an instinct? What the fuck ... I suggest OP, that you look up the definition of "instinct". I wrote a massive essay as a reply to this, but I deleted it all because there's too much to explain due the stupidity of OP. No I'm not kidding, OP wrote some really dumbass shit and I deleted my long ass reply because I realized I would have typed another 2,000 words. So all I'll say is this. Bullying is not instinct. It is not vital to life. >Being a man >Being a pussy >Bullying These three things are not interlocked. They can be, by choice. But they work perfectly seperate.
[QUOTE=TheGronk;29374025]Name three things that are not good for you, even if you did/had it in moderation.[/QUOTE] Cancer.
[QUOTE=yaik9a;29373818]The so called 'alpha' dogs never had it good in my school, because when someone tried to bully another there friends or bystanders would do something about it. One time some jock tried to bully me but as soon as he tried to slap me I gave him a gut punch and then he left me alone; then one time someguy wanted to take my position in my circle of friends so I made (At that point I knew he had dad issues and was failing) him cry then he dropped out.[/QUOTE] he wanted to take your position what the fuck is your circle of friends a fucking drug dealing circuit
[QUOTE=Billiam;29374338]Cancer.[/QUOTE] Without Cancer we would never evolve. [editline]23rd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29374419]he wanted to take your position what the fuck is your circle of friends a fucking drug dealing circuit[/QUOTE] No
[QUOTE=yaik9a;29374427]Without Cancer we would never evolve. [editline]23rd April 2011[/editline] No[/QUOTE] how the fuck can someone take your position are you the designated token black guy or something can there only be one of you and if another arrives you must duel to the death and you have no fucking idea what cancer is you dumb slut
[QUOTE=yaik9a;29374427]Without Cancer we would never evolve. [editline]23rd April 2011[/editline] No[/QUOTE] Yeah, tumours sure are a great step in human progress.
I got severely bullied throughout the entirety of school, didn't even have a friend until a few years back. While I wouldn't exactly say I was happy I got bullied as badly as I did, I will agree that it made me a stronger individual and surprisingly more confident in myself too (You get bullied enough and eventually you'll pass the giving a fuck stage and move on to the not giving a fuck stage). I turned it all around by getting myself a proper haircut, working out and sorting out my clothing; you'd be surprised how differently people treat you after those simple procedures. Sorted out any socialising issues I had by just throwing myself into situations where I'd be forced to talk. The problem with all these anti-bullying measures is that they do fuck all to help, teachers don't really have the power to do much and can't do anything other than sit back and watch. Zero tolerance is the worst of all though; I got punched in the face and the school saw fit to suspend me for 'being involved in a fight' despite me not actually hitting back and having witnesses to confirm it. When things start getting physical though, that's the time you can start dealing with the bullying and take matters into your own hands. If somebody hits you then the best advice I have for you is to go absolutely apeshit on them, you'll get in a metric fuckton of shit for it but they'll never mess with you again. I would never wish bullying on anyone though, chances are it's going to fuck you up for life rather than do anything beneficial.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;29369259]And the OP is a massive idiot. School for me was a way to get away from the things at home as my mom had cancer and me and my sister had to take care of her almost every day until she died. That was our only exit to get away from that and trust me, it isn't fun watching your mother die in front of your eyes for 6 years when you cant do shit because she has given up trying to get rid of it because it keeps coming back. No there was no one else to help out, she didn't enter hospice until 3 months before she died. My grandma was the only other person who could help and even then it was not every day. That fucking bullying only made things worse and I have flashbacks and other shit from all the fucking PTSD that requires either years of therapy or EMDR to help me get through it all so these flashbacks don't just simply shut me down.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry that you didn't detect my sarcasm. I was making fun of the OP's logic
Okay guys, new point. Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will bounce right off me? Hmm? They're just words, and if some asshole looks at you at judges you that minute, then fuck him he's a judgmental asshole.
[QUOTE=yaik9a;29373818]The so called 'alpha' dogs never had it good in my school, because when someone tried to bully another there friends or bystanders would do something about it. One time some jock tried to bully me but as soon as he tried to slap me I gave him a gut punch and then he left me alone; then one time someguy wanted to take my position in my circle of friends so I made (At that point I knew he had dad issues and was failing) him cry then he dropped out.[/QUOTE] so basically you're a massive prick?
This thread is bad and you should feel bad for making it. It's nothing but a hive of terrible opinions.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29374675]Okay guys, new point. Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will bounce right off me?[/QUOTE] Words are a perception, so is the phrase 'sticks and stones' it all depends on how the person mentally processes those words and realises them. Some people can naturally phase out hurtful words towards them and other people cannot. It's totally individual.
[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;29374734]This thread is bad and you should feel bad for making it. It's nothing but a hive of terrible opinions.[/QUOTE] No the kids who got bullied in grade school just suck at being social/standing up for themselves and they don't consider the other side of the arguement. Oh wait, [sp]that's what half of facepunch does in every thread.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29374287]How about we go after the discriminators instead of ostracizing the victims good lord[/QUOTE] What are you going to do about them
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29374765]No the kids who got bullied in grade school just suck at being social/standing up for themselves and they don't consider the other side of the arguement. Oh wait, [sp]that's what half of facepunch does in every thread.[/sp][/QUOTE] I wasn't only referring to your ideals, OP, I was also talking about the people like yaik9a(cancer is good hurr durr). Aside from that though, people have given plenty of good counter arguments, you're just coming off as a giant douche.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29374765]No the kids who got bullied in grade school just suck at being social/standing up for themselves and they don't consider the other side of the arguement. Oh wait, [sp]that's what half of facepunch does in every thread.[/sp][/QUOTE] That's no excuse for bullies. Man, people bully autistics and the disabled for fucks sake.
[QUOTE=Moose;29373753]dumbest shit ive ever read ^[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12616543[/url]
[QUOTE=Billiam;29374821]That's no excuse for bullies. Man, people bully autistics and the disabled for fucks sake.[/QUOTE] No that shit isn't cool, I have two cousins with downs syndrome and I love them to death, making fun of anyone because of something that they can't change/have no choice over is not cool at all. You all seem to be missing my argument [sp]probably because my dumbass left it out of the thread[/sp] You shouldn't get bullied to the point where you kill yourself, suicide is for the weak, sure it's sad but it's a very very weak move. Kids are too fragile and need to learn how to not give a fuck what some jock in a pink ralph lauren polo think about them. I'm not saying every kind of bullying is good, I'm saying that in a lot of cases it can build character. It can even help you make friends like it did to me and a few others in this thread.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29374675]Okay guys, new point. Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will bounce right off me? Hmm? They're just words, and if some asshole looks at you at judges you that minute, then fuck him he's a judgmental asshole.[/QUOTE] That's completely retarded. How would you feel if everytime you walked into a room people would start sniggering and making jokes at your expense? How would you feel if you had to deal with this every single day knowing that you had nowhere to escape from it all and you'd have to put up with this for [B]years[/B]? It's easy to say 'Deal with it' if you're looking at it from the perspective of a bystander, but it's not as easy as that. You can't stop people from doing this because they can easily just spin it around and turn it into another means of making you feel like shit, it's actually easier to sort out bullying when you're getting physically attacked; because then you can actually fight back and it puts them off doing it again. It's impossible to fight against that shit, you have no choice [I]other [/I]than to put up with it until you snap and say something stupid which just makes it worse.
[QUOTE=BrQ;29374774]What are you going to do about them[/QUOTE] Well if it was an adult doing it at the workplace they'd get kicked out on their ass so let's start treating kids more like adults
OP has probably never been bullied, and thinks it's because he's good at standing up for himself and not socially awkward. Some people are more sensitive than others, and what the hell are you going to do if there is a gang of dickwads constantly pestering you and making your life horrible? Are you going to fight them? They will probably beat the shit out of you, even you're grandmaster boxing and kung fu. They never fight "clean" and they will not stop until you're either moving to another school or ruin your life in some way(suicide, hurting yourself etc). I've been bullied all through school, because I was "different" in their eyes. I wasn't giving a shit, until one day, one of the bullies tried to strangle me in the school hall. It totally fucked me up, and gave me social anxiety. Only consolidation is that everyone in that gang ended up as druggies, and one of them killed a woman while driving(jailtime).
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29374904]Well if it was an adult doing it at the workplace they'd get kicked out on their ass so let's start treating kids more like adults[/QUOTE] What about bullying in school? You can't just kick every bully from school
[QUOTE=NinjaPanda;29374900]That's completely retarded. How would you feel if everytime you walked into a room people would start sniggering and making jokes at your expense? How would you feel if you had to deal with this every single day knowing that you had nowhere to escape from it all and you'd have to put up with this for [B]years[/B]? It's easy to say 'Deal with it' if you're looking at it from the perspective of a bystander, but it's not as easy as that. You can't stop people from doing this because they can easily just spin it around and turn it into another means of making you feel like shit, it's actually easier to sort out bullying when you're getting physically attacked; because then you can actually fight back and it puts them off doing it again. It's impossible to fight against that shit, you have no choice [I]other [/I]than to put up with it until you snap and say something stupid which just makes it worse.[/QUOTE] No it's actually pretty easy to fuck with the bullies right back, [b]stand up for yourself[/b]. If that's to hard then conform.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29374765]No the kids who got bullied in grade school just suck at being social/standing up for themselves and they don't consider the other side of the arguement. Oh wait, [sp]that's what half of facepunch does in every thread.[/sp][/QUOTE] No kids in grade school bully people for the simple reason that they're different most of the time. The kids are usually made anti-social due to the bullying. [editline]23rd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BrQ;29375029]What about bullying in school? You can't just kick every bully from school[/QUOTE] Council them first, then if the bullying continues kick their ass out of school and send them to a special school.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29375040]No it's actually pretty easy to fuck with the bullies right back, [b]stand up for yourself[/b]. If that's to hard then conform.[/QUOTE] Except usually they return with a gang. And if you're the apparent anti-social who this thread is meant for, then you're just going to get your ass handed to you.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29375040]No it's actually pretty easy to fuck with the bullies right back, [B]stand up for yourself[/B].[/QUOTE] It's becoming increasingly more obvious that you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. The type of bullying people deal with isn't as obvious as you think. People don't go up to you and start saying "You're a worthless sack of shit", instead you have people obviously laughing behind your back and then subtly making fun of you under the guise of friendship. They'll pull you into group activities only to mock you with the others and disguise it as a 'friendly joke'. This behaviour is incredibly obvious to you and them, but to a bystander it just looks like you're not joining in with the jokes because you're a social retard who won't stick up for himself. What do you think you can do in this situation exactly? If you tell them to fuck off then they'll just get worse, and you'll have even more people joining in to mock you. If you beat the shit out of one of them, then you best be prepared to have their entire social group find you and make your life a living hell. Any action you take other than to just endure it makes it worse. You don't have any friends to back you up when shit goes south, you have nothing to fall back on. [QUOTE=breakyourfac;29375040]If that's to hard then conform. [/QUOTE] Do you think people make outcasts of themselves intentionally? How hard do you think it is to conform when everytime you try to settle your differences with these people they just continue to laugh and make fun of you behind your back? It's difficult to make friends when the entire year group is on it, with the few people who don't actively make fun of you being wary of being your friend due to the difficulties it will bring to their lives. I don't think you actually understand the magnitude of what goes on. It's not as easy as standing up and saying "Fuck you".
[QUOTE=acds;29360830]Thank you for the great counterarguments. Also it's funny how touchy FP gets on the subject of bullying.[/QUOTE] FP doesn't care about bullying, but when you make an ass of yourself, people tend to react, be it to troll you or insult you.
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