• Enough With This Antibullying Bullshit
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If anything, fucking schools need to actually do something about bulling instead of making a big fucking deal about it, then turning around and not giving a shit. Maybe you have a point, it does toughen up some. But it can also have pretty bad emotional consequences.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356837]If a fucking furry can get a group of friends, then I'm sure fat timmy can get a few pals to go do something to the bully.[/QUOTE] Yeah, like throw food at them and then run away, but they cant run fast enough and ends up getting beating up by another gang, assuming your "fatty" have friends that would dare to act in such behavior, or any friends to begin with. Your views are very single-sided.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356837]If a fucking furry can get a group of friends, then I'm sure fat timmy can get a few pals to go do something to the bully.[/QUOTE] Furries are social by principle. Fat kids who get bullied often get bullied BECAUSE they have no friends. There isn't a pinch of logic in your heap of horseshit
A new proposal: 1. If you have problems like weight you're being bullied for, lose weight. It may be hard, but it's better for you anyway. 2. Only fight back physically if the bullying is physical. While mental/emotional bullying is terrible stuff, it's easy for them to claim they didn't do anything, or turn it around. you'll need to learn to ignore it, or turn it around on them. L'espirit de l'escalier, while fulfilling to yourself, isn't helpful. Develop a quicker wit through practice, and you can easily turn around statements and situations. 3. If you have mental issues that make you have problems with bullying, either making them worse for you or making you react worse to them, you're fucked. Sorry bout that. Not much you can do, but hope and perservere.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356837]If a fucking furry can get a group of friends, then I'm sure fat timmy can get a few pals to go do something to the bully.[/QUOTE] The problem is not the person, it's that some people are just mocked in good jest and it would stop if they were to stand up for themselves. However, people can also be mocked with the real intention of causing distress, this can either happen because someone who thinks that being the alpha of the pack is good idea, and finds someone they think is weak to prove his worth), or someone has been mocked in good jest and it just gets worse from there. You have to appreciate that there is a difference in both cases.
ITT : Strong kids getting bullied should fight back, weak kids and the handicapped should kill themselves durr
Wait a minute, this thread feels familiar. Wasn't there a thread like this like a year or two ago? I even recognized some of the posts here.
Just because it's a natural instinct doesn't mean it's good.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356726]But think about it like this, if you were a caveman, and were overweight you couldn't hunt very well, or escape danger and you would most likely die. Or you know, listen to the bullies and lose weight? Or just fucking stand up for yourself, it's not that hard...[/QUOTE] This exactly. Would you rather be a depressed sack of shit or learn to lose weight/Man up?
If I knew it was that easy, I'd just dangle a[sp]turkey leg[/sp]or something.
Did you not stop to think that maybe the problem lies not with the people being bullied but those who are bullying them?
I'm not saying every case of bullying is good, I'm just saying that a good 75% of the time the kid is getting bullied about something that he/she has the power to change.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356941]I'm not saying every case of bullying is good, I'm just saying that a good 75% of the time the kid is getting bullied about something that he/she has the power to change.[/QUOTE] And where did you get this statistics from?
Based on what? [editline]22nd April 2011[/editline] ninja [editline]22nd April 2011[/editline] If you want to know what I am basing my claims on, I saw a thread about two girls hanging themselves in ITN just now.
Go fuck yourself OP. You're a grade A ignorant fuckface.
Sadly, when children are bullied, the majority of the time they are affected negatively rather than positively: the problem is bad parenting. Bullied children have someone to run home to (most of the time). This is good and bad for them simultaneously - they may feel better, but they have a way out that doesn't involve standing up for themselves. People tend to "fight to the death" whenever they're backed into the corner - that is, there's no way out. Thus if the parents were to care not, most likely leading the child to feel they have nowhere else to turn, the child is more likely to see no choice BUT to fight it off. Basically, "helpful" parents provide a loophole that allows the child to "escape" from the issue without fighting it. I know this well - luckily my brother taught me how to fight and I kicked the shit out of one of the most popular guys in the year, so they stopped after that.
I got bullied quite often in school. Well it didn't help me at all. Now I am anti-social and scared of people because they might bully me again. If anything, it made me weaker. I didn't kill myself, but I do feel like some part of my life is totally ruined. Also I did stood up to myself twice. First time I got my ass kicked hard. The second time I "won" but then later bully's friends ganged me, got out with a broken nose.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356941]I'm not saying every case of bullying is good, I'm just saying that a good 75% of the time the kid is getting bullied about something that he/she has the power to change.[/QUOTE] Holy fuck, you're ignorant. Why should someone have to change because of what other people think?
[QUOTE=Wiggles;29357023]Holy fuck, you're ignorant. Why should someone have to change because of what other people think?[/QUOTE] Not what I'm saying at all, look at my example of Fat timmy on the first page.
[QUOTE=Lazyboy0337;29356908]This exactly. Would you rather be a depressed sack of shit or learn to lose weight/Man up?[/QUOTE] Or maybe people could politely befriend him and tell him that he should lose some weight and help him do it by inviting him outside to play football and have fun. But no, "hurr lets make fun of him so he kills himself", is your mentality. You are a disgrace to humanity.
[QUOTE=Kingeh;29356757]im in a wheelchair and when I roll down a ramp all the kids stomp on my foot brake and I flip how do I stand up for myself?[/QUOTE] you could hold a [i]sit in[/i]
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;29357005]Sadly, when children are bullied, the majority of the time they are affected negatively rather than positively: the problem is bad parenting. Bullied children have someone to run home to (most of the time). This is good and bad for them simultaneously - they may feel better, but they have a way out that doesn't involve standing up for themselves. People tend to "fight to the death" whenever they're backed into the corner - that is, there's no way out. Thus if the parents were to care not, most likely leading the child to feel they have nowhere else to turn, the child is more likely to see no choice BUT to fight it off. Basically, "helpful" parents provide a loophole that allows the child to "escape" from the issue without fighting it. I know this well - luckily my brother taught me how to fight and I kicked the shit out of one of the most popular guys in the year, so they stopped after that.[/QUOTE] Having parents that don't give a shit about what you find important, and what yo uwant them to find important is going to mess you up. Insecurity, plus having to grow up and be independent too fast will make you colder
Yeah, acting like primitives is really beneficial to society.
Ah yeah, no. I went through bullying, it was fucking horrible. I'm fine now, I have a lot of friends and most insults I get are jokes from my friends. Sure, being bullied made me a stronger person, as in I don't really give a shit if someone attempts to verbally abuse me, but that doesn't mean that it's acceptable. Parents, schools should be able to make sure a child is not having their life made into a living hell by some asshole(s). Also, in this time I would have thought we would be better than to act "instinctively". It's not as easy as you think. I don't think you've ever experienced it from what you're saying.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357052]Not what I'm saying at all, look at my example of Fat timmy on the first page.[/QUOTE] Bullying is never a good way to get people to change. Sure, Timmy might lose weight but think of the psychological consequences it might have. You know what might be a better solution? If everyone had just an ounce of respect for everyone else.
I think the OP is speaking out against all these bullshit "zero tolerance" policies. Fact is, no matter what you do, kids are going to get picked on. Social Darwinism, whether you believe it or not, is the law of the land, and as such, those who stand out for the wrong reasons will get "bullied." When the bullying is severe, and by severe I mean the kind of day-in-and-day-out belligerence, beatings, etc that drive kids to suicide, then I'm all for an intervention. But if Billy cries because Big Jimbo called him four eyes, I say sack up and deal with it.
I was expecting something at least somewhat rational, like "anti-bullying has been taken too far." Not some stupid bullshit like this.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357052]Not what I'm saying at all, look at my example of Fat timmy on the first page.[/QUOTE] Even a fat person can contribute to society, deal with it. Bullying is detrimental and not needed.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357217]I think the OP is speaking out against all these bullshit "zero tolerance" policies. Fact is, no matter what you do, kids are going to get picked on. Social Darwinism, whether you believe it or not, is the law of the land, and as such, those who stand out for the wrong reasons will get "bullied." When the bullying is severe, and by severe I mean the kind of day-in-and-day-out belligerence, beatings, etc that drive kids to suicide, then I'm all for an intervention. But if Billy cries because Big Jimbo called him four eyes, I say sack up and deal with it.[/QUOTE] So wearing glasses makes it ok to be made fun off? How is that even standing out in the wrong way?
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357052]Not what I'm saying at all, look at my example of Fat timmy on the first page.[/QUOTE] It doesn't help people change at all, all it really causes is social problems in later life.
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