[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357217]I think the OP is speaking out against all these bullshit "zero tolerance" policies. Fact is, no matter what you do, kids are going to get picked on. Social Darwinism, whether you believe it or not, is the law of the land, and as such, those who stand out for the wrong reasons will get "bullied." When the bullying is severe, and by severe I mean the kind of day-in-and-day-out belligerence, beatings, etc that drive kids to suicide, then I'm all for an intervention. But if Billy cries because Big Jimbo called him four eyes, I say sack up and deal with it.[/QUOTE]
THIS. FUCKING THIS. OKAY. IF YOU FUCKERS KNEW HOW TO READ YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHERE IM GETTING AT.
Goddamn I'm gonna go cry to my mommy now because you all hurted my feelings :saddowns:
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[QUOTE=Thom12255;29357247]So wearing glasses makes it ok to be made fun off?
How is that even standing out in the wrong way?[/QUOTE]
Let's focus on the minutiae of my post and ignore the point of my statements.
I wear glasses, if it makes any difference.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357257]THIS. FUCKING THIS. OKAY. IF YOU FUCKERS KNEW HOW TO READ YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHERE IM GETTING AT.
Goddamn I'm gonna go cry to my mommy now because you all hurted my feelings :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
Wait you agree with social Darwinism? You mean the social Darwinism that has caused a large amount of the worlds genocides?
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356726]But think about it like this, if you were a caveman, and were overweight you couldn't hunt very well, or escape danger and you would most likely die.
Or you know, listen to the bullies and lose weight? Or just fucking stand up for yourself, it's not that hard...[/QUOTE]
I'm not really sure what you're getting at. We're not cavemen, and overweight people do infact know they are overweight. We all have problems, just weight is more visible than others. I don't want someone coming up to me and mocking me because I don't have as much patience as someone else, or because I anger easily (etc.) and I'm sure you wouldn't either. I would know of my problems, and I don't need someone to point them out. If someone asks for your help, help them. Otherwise, don't go pointing out their problems.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357217]I think the OP is speaking out against all these bullshit "zero tolerance" policies. Fact is, no matter what you do, kids are going to get picked on. Social Darwinism, whether you believe it or not, is the law of the land, and as such, those who stand out for the wrong reasons will get "bullied." When the bullying is severe, and by severe I mean the kind of day-in-and-day-out belligerence, beatings, etc that drive kids to suicide, then I'm all for an intervention. But if Billy cries because Big Jimbo called him four eyes, I say sack up and deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Why should he have to deal with it though? Why can't we teach the new generations of young people to be respectful of each other instead of just letting it happen because it always has.
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;29357264]Have you ever been bullied, OP?
I have. I was universally hated by my grade/middle school class. Now, I'm socially anxious, and when I make mistakes I can't let them go. Which part makes me stronger?[/QUOTE]
This is the kind of bullying that needs to be dealt with. I feel for you, I really do.
But I've dealt with the minor forms of "bullying" that breakyourfac is talking about. I participate in my school's annual drama and musical productions, and I get called a "faggot" and a "queerbag" for it, but I just sack up and deal with it because it means nothing.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29357284]Wait you agree with social Darwinism? You mean the social Darwinism that has caused a large amount of the worlds genocides?[/QUOTE]
Your avatar has a sniper in it, that means you condone the assasination of jfk!
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357257]THIS. FUCKING THIS. OKAY. IF YOU FUCKERS KNEW HOW TO READ YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHERE IM GETTING AT.
Goddamn I'm gonna go cry to my mommy now because you all hurted my feelings :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
With what you wrote you gave me, and a lot of other people, the wrong idea.
If you knew how to fucking write, then we would all understand what you were saying.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;29357310]Why should he have to deal with it though? Why can't we teach the new generations of young people to be respectful of each other instead of just letting it happen because it always has.[/QUOTE]
It's against human nature.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357327]Your avatar has a sniper in it, that means you condone the assasination of jfk![/QUOTE]
I'm sorry were you making a point there, because I'm really not seeing it.
So basically the OP wants us all to strife to be super-perfect Humans with no problems for anyone to make fun of. Otherwise we deserve to be picked on and hurt.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29357284]Wait you agree with social Darwinism? You mean the social Darwinism that has caused a large amount of the worlds genocides?[/QUOTE]
My God, you're incredibly dense. Social Darwinism, like Islam, can be twisted to justify mass killing.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357345]It's against human nature.[/QUOTE]
Instincts like the one you mentioned should be no part of modern society
bullies only bully because of their own shitty lives so they bully kids with shitty lives
it is a case of weakling vs weakling :colbert:
the strong don't give a shit and only seek to improve their lives
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29357350]I'm sorry were you making a point there, because I'm really not seeing it.[/QUOTE]
You took something completely abstract that I didn't even say, and made it seem like I'm a horrible person.
Just like I did there.
Going on the offensive? Holy shit OP, have you ever had to deal with a bullying situation? An actual one. One with a bunch of asswipes who won't let up, who don't take an insult and merely turn it on you, who keep going even after you go to the extent of telling someone in authority? Going on the offensive isn't fucking doable when they're 6 inches taller than you and have significantly more muscle mass.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;29357368]So basically the OP wants us all to strife to be super-perfect Humans with no problems for anyone to make fun of. Otherwise we deserve to be picked on and hurt.[/QUOTE]
No, you should strive to not be a pussy, and either a. Deal with it or b. do something or get someone to do something about it if you think it's that bad.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357345]It's against human nature.[/QUOTE]
It's also human nature to lie and steal.
Does that mean we should do it or let those that to do it get away with it?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29357387]Instincts like the one you mentioned should be no part of modern society[/QUOTE]
Is it right? No.
Is it the truth? Yes.
Will it ever change? Not in our lifetimes.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;29357409]It's also human nature to lie and steal.
Does that mean we should do it or let those that to do it get away with it?[/QUOTE]
See above.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357404]No, you should strive to not be a pussy, and either a. Deal with it or b. do something or get someone to do something about it if you think it's that bad.[/QUOTE]
That's what happens already, you tell on the bully and he is punished.
The OP somehow thinks this is wrong.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357396]You took something completely abstract that I didn't even say, and made it seem like I'm a horrible person.
Just like I did there.[/QUOTE]
Because you're supporting something that has only caused problems in society.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;29357409]It's also human nature to lie and steal.
Does that mean we should do it or let those that to do it get away with it?[/QUOTE]
Human nature is debatable, some philosophers say we are born evil, some say we are born good but private property corrupts us, others say we are born a blank slate and those around us influence the type of person we will be.
-snip, late-
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357326]
But I've dealt with the minor forms of "bullying" that breakyourfac is talking about. I participate in my school's annual drama and musical productions, and I get called a "faggot" and a "queerbag" for it, but I just sack up and deal with it because it means nothing.[/QUOTE]
But why do you have to be subjected to something like this in the first place, what did you do wrong to deserve criticism from others? Bullies come from broken homes, and the only real way to resolve them is to fix the home itself, which is extremely difficult.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357429]Is it right? No.
Is it the truth? Yes.
Will it ever change? Not in our lifetimes.[/QUOTE]
Maybe so, but we shouldn't allow it to happen.
I was bullied in elementary school. Then both I and the bullies grew the fuck up and now we're very good friends.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29357345]It's against human nature.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. I can manage to be respectful and polite around everyone so why can't other people?
[QUOTE=Thom12255;29357430]That's what happens already, you tell on the bully and he is punished.
The OP somehow thinks this is wrong.[/QUOTE]
No, honestly I think the zero tolerance bullshit is wrong, let the damn kids be kids.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;29357430]That's what happens already, you tell on the bully and he is punished.
The OP somehow thinks this is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Well then I guess we've found a difference in mine and OP's ideology.
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