• Enough With This Antibullying Bullshit
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[QUOTE=Garik;29358405]Why the hell do teachers always try to stop bullying, they know it aint gonna stop anyway. [/QUOTE] because otherwise parents will go "teachers aren't doing shit against bullying"
[QUOTE=Garik;29358405]Why the hell do teachers always try to stop bullying, they know it aint gonna stop anyway. And if it does, it aint gonna be permanent, its just gonna be temporary, the bullying and ass kicking will resume a day or a week later. Sure their lives are gonna be ruined but most of the time, the bullied ones are always either one of the following, retarded, mentally or physically, they are so so left behind of their age, like they're 14, but acts like 9 and dresses like a 7 year old, has absolutely no friends etc. Call me dumb but i am right Besides... i have long hair like James Hetfield in the 80's and no-one bullies me because of that, i'm damn respected in school y'know[/QUOTE] So... give me your lunch money or I´ll hit you with a lead pipe when you least expect it. I wonder if the respect fades off when you lie in a ground cowered in blood and your hair cutted. That shit happened to me y´know. So shut the fuck up
[QUOTE=Dr. Strangelove;29358615]Derp derp Im respected derp[/QUOTE] Don't blame me that i'm popular, because you see... the key to success is not having autism...
I was bullied for 3 years, didn't have it in me to stand up for myself so I dropped out of school, turned my life to doing nothing but sit in a dark room lightened up a bit by a monitor, not talking to anyone, no social contacts, never showering, damaged self-confidence, and that was 4 years ago, and my self-confidence is still damaged, I'm currently taking a course in engineering so everything cleared up but the self-confidence.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29357704]This. right here. so stop calling me a heartless asshole because this is what I'm getting at. really stop calling me names. please? it hurts my feelings [sp]I'll tell a mod on you >:([/sp][/QUOTE] You're an insenstive asshole. If someone does something that upsets someone else, of course the victim allowed to do something about it, even if that means "being a pussy" and telling on them.
[QUOTE=Garik;29358626]Don't blame me that i'm popular, because you see... the key to success is not having autism...[/QUOTE] On the contrary, half the popular kids in my school act like they're autistic.
When I was in High School, I was the bullies bully... My philosophy is never harm the innocent, but the guilty must pay.
[QUOTE=Sonicdude;29358664]When I was in High School, I was the bullies bully... My philosophy is never harm the innocent, but the guilty must pay.[/QUOTE] Thus making you guilty as well Cool logic bro
[QUOTE=Sonicdude;29358664]When I was in High School, I was the bullies bully... My philosophy is never harm the innocent, but the guilty must pay.[/QUOTE] So you took the lunch money they took from innocents?
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;29358699]Thus making you guilty as well Cool logic bro[/QUOTE] I never said I was innocent. What I was doing was wrong, but someone has to stand up for those without much confidence and courage.
[QUOTE=Noble;29358394] No..it doesn't work that way at all. Honestly what you just said is completely mind boggling and senseless that I am just at a loss for words.[/QUOTE] Nature's not kind. Are you ugly? Then your genes are not good, you won't procreate and everyone will make fun of you to keep you away form their group and sexual mates. Do you have defects? Same as above. Are you crippled? Then you are not fit for survival, you'll either be killed or eaten by some predator. Are you different in any way? You're a menace to the established leadership and social ladder, you are to be a outcast or eliminated. [B]I'm not saying it's right[/B], I'm saying that it's how nature works on it's most basic level. Luckily we are in 2011 and not 50000 B.C. so most of society has evolved past that, but bullying is still caused by those apeman instincts. Again I'm not saying it's right, nor that all of society works that way. I'm saying that nature works that way, right or not.
Hey OP, how's your mom doing?
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;29358699]Thus making you guilty as well Cool logic bro[/QUOTE] I disagree, if you inflict hurt upon a person I feel it is justified for them to be bullied in return. [editline]22nd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=acds;29358858]Nature's not kind. Are you ugly? Then your genes are not good, you won't procreate and everyone will make fun of you to keep you away form their group and sexual mates. Do you have defects? Same as above. Are you crippled? Then you are not fit for survival, you'll either be killed or eaten by some predator. Are you different in any way? You're a menace to the established leadership and social ladder, you are to be a outcast or eliminated. [B]I'm not saying it's right[/B], I'm saying that it's how nature works on it's most basic level. Luckily we are in 2011 and not 50000 B.C. so most of society has evolved past that, but bullying is still caused by those apeman instincts. Again I'm not saying it's right, nor that all of society works that way. I'm saying that nature works that way, right or not.[/QUOTE] Only the case in idiotic alpha males.
WOW.... Just like... WOW!
I say that if you can't handle bullying, then change yourself. Fat? Try losing weight. Skinny? Try gaining weight. Funny hair? Try a more 'normal' hair style. People think you're a gaming nerd? Stop talking about games or wearing clothes related to gaming. Bullied for absolutely no reason? Walk with a couple of friends instead of alone. I understand that it's not as simple as that, but instead of crying about how people bully you so much, you should try to do something about it. I also see that you shouldn't have to change yourself to please bullies, but if you can't deal with it, then there's not much else you can do about it. And if your problem is something like "I don't have any friends, because of my (self)diagnosed assburgers or w/e", then do something about that too. You can go "I can't because of this syndrome I have" but then you are only giving an excuse to yourself and it won't fix anything.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356726]But think about it like this, if you were a caveman, and were overweight you couldn't hunt very well, or escape danger and you would most likely die. Or you know, listen to the bullies and lose weight? Or just fucking stand up for yourself, it's not that hard...[/QUOTE] If you were an overweight caveman that would mean you would be able be get so much excess food that you were likely the best hunter ever and you were fucking every bitch in sight. But that is moot because we are not cave times, it is modern times.
[QUOTE=Valnar;29359190]If you were an overweight caveman that would mean you would be able be get so much excess food that you were likely the best hunter ever and you were fucking every bitch in sight. But that is moot because we are not cave times, it is modern times.[/QUOTE] Actually, in many poorer countries, being called fat is a compliment.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29359008] Only the case in idiotic alpha males.[/QUOTE] Yep, usually it's mostly idiots that bully. Wannabe and insecure "Alpha males" that instead of elevating themselves in the eyes of others they try to keep everyone else down. Actual Alpha males behaviour does not include bullying at all, quite the opposite (Alpha males are supposed to make the pack work together and be efficient, making people feel like shit is not a good thing for a leader).
I've merely skimmed the thread and noticed you're equating bullying with some social Darwinian principle. Your "That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger." prattle is bullshit, Nietzsche originally wrote it as an example of how empty affirmations have no place in reality. Bullying doesn't motivate you to change the things you're being bullied for, in most cases it does the exact opposite. Deindividuation and peer pressure is obsolete herd behaviour, it applies to cavemen, not children. Although you're right in saying that the zero tolerance antibullying stuff is doing a piss poor job of stopping bullies. [QUOTE=breakyourfac;29356726]But think about it like this, if you were a caveman, and were overweight you couldn't hunt very well, or escape danger and you would most likely die. Or you know, listen to the bullies and lose weight? Or just fucking stand up for yourself, it's not that hard...[/QUOTE] To be a fat caveman you'd have to be an impressive hunter. Just goes to show how irrelevant your whole argument is.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;29359214]Actually, in many poorer countries, being called fat is a compliment.[/QUOTE] Yeah, being fat was considered a very good thing to be for the longest time in history. It signified that you were wealthy enough to buy food for pleasure instead of necessity.
[QUOTE=Wirexia;29356571]Not everyone can or will fight back.[/QUOTE] if you don't fight back then you have no ambition
People who have achieved something great often thank those who have helped them. You don't see any great actors or players thanking those who bullied them and made them change, they only mention the people who supported them.
[QUOTE=Droogie;29359233]I've merely skimmed the thread and noticed you're equating bullying with some social Darwinian principle. Your "That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger." prattle is bullshit, Nietzsche originally wrote it as an example of how empty affirmations have no place in reality. Bullying doesn't motivate you to change the things you're being bullied for, in most cases it does the exact opposite. Deindividuation and peer pressure is obsolete herd behaviour, it applies to cavemen, not children. [/QUOTE] i'm gonna go on a limb and say bullying is absolutely necessary. bullying from what i can tell absolutely does motivate you to change. if someone calls you out for acting like a nerd, you're probably going to try and change that
[QUOTE=Sonicdude;29358715]I never said I was innocent. What I was doing was wrong, but someone has to stand up for those without much confidence and courage.[/QUOTE] He's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
I disagree with the anti-bullying thing because it exaggerates the issue. You somehow managed to make it sound like the "bullying epidemic" is a [i]good[/i] thing. And that's why you're an idiot and I'm going to bully you now.
I was bullied for 5 years, i fought back, but 1 child vs 6 other children every day for 5 years is not a joyride. I was planning suicide at the end. But i couldn't because i knew that was the wrong way out of a problem. So i just kept my head cool and they stopped when we got to 8th grade. Now i am in high school and i am glad i didn't kill myself over it. The only reason i was bullied was because i liked to play games instead of tossing a football around. You could try to be called names every day for 5 years. I would think you wouldn't create this thread.
[QUOTE=Mon;29359599]i'm gonna go on a limb and say bullying is absolutely necessary. bullying from what i can tell absolutely does motivate you to change. if someone calls you out for acting like a nerd, you're probably going to try and change that[/QUOTE] A bully doesn't look for a flaw in someone because they want to help improve their character, they're looking for someone they can victimize and antagonize regardless of what the person's actual flaws are, constantly trying to change yourself to meet the bully's criteria is exactly the wrong thing to do and only enables further attacks. Although I don't think our definitions of bullying match up, I'm not saying that remarking on someone's appearance is automatically bullying, suppositions like that are why zero tolerance approaches are flawed. Obviously kids have to learn to stick up for themselves but relentless unprovoked mental and physical attacks aren't constructive and don't improve one's character.
[QUOTE=BrQ;29359150]I say that if you can't handle bullying, then change yourself. Fat? Try losing weight. Skinny? Try gaining weight. Funny hair? Try a more 'normal' hair style. People think you're a gaming nerd? Stop talking about games or wearing clothes related to gaming. Bullied for absolutely no reason? Walk with a couple of friends instead of alone. I understand that it's not as simple as that, but instead of crying about how people bully you so much, you should try to do something about it. I also see that you shouldn't have to change yourself to please bullies, but if you can't deal with it, then there's not much else you can do about it. And if your problem is something like "I don't have any friends, because of my (self)diagnosed assburgers or w/e", then do something about that too. You can go "I can't because of this syndrome I have" but then you are only giving an excuse to yourself and it won't fix anything.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I forgot how easy it is to change your skin colour and religion.
You seem to think that those who are being bullied can change what ever they're being bullied about. But not all bullying is about something as simple as weight. Weight can change. Race, ethnicity, gender, where you're from, these and other factors cannot. In elementary school I got beat up because "I wasn't white". Prior to that I was talkative, friendly, and extroverted. I helped organize games, I was a leader back then. But due to that event I became racialized when I was goddamn six years old. I saw people of different skin colors as inherently different. I slowly became more and more introverted and suspicious of others. I alienated myself from my friends, especially my white friends, and others as a means of protection from those who would attack me. I became disgusted with my appearance, I started to hate the look of Asians. You know how hard it is to live with people you can't look at? Even to this day I hate how and others of my race look. I also grew resentful, rageful at those who had wronged me. The kid who bullied me moved out of state, but I found out where he lived. I planned on going to his house and splattering his brains across his walls for ruining my life. I was going to go on your "offensive" but then I realized, how would I be better than him if I attacked him because of race? I could have become like him. I could have become the bully. But no, I didn't want anyone else to feel the pain that I felt. I don't want to see anyone else alienated because of who they are. I recognized my problems, and I've worked on them for about four years now. I've also become independent, even when it hurts me. Even when I can ask for help I do not. Because of that incident, I can't trust anyone, I'm too suspicious of them. And how can you live your life like that, when social interaction is one of the main parts of life? Whenever I meet up with friends I always wonder, do they really like me? Do they really care? I would lay down my life for the people I know, but I don't know if they would do the same. I have to battle these demons inside me I've gotten stronger physically, but I've grown cold emotionally and mentally as way to deal with the pain. The few emotions I do feel I can't express. I speak in a damn monotone voice to hide expression. Hell, I can't even god damn tell my parents I love them because those words sound too foreign coming out of my mouth. Did bullying make me stronger? In some ways yes. But did it also destroy who I was and who I could have become? Yes. I've had to fight a massive inferiority complex almost my entire life, and fighting yourself every hour of every day is not a way to live. And I wish it on no one else. How can you?
Honestly, a small amount of bullying is good. Too much - bad. I was lightly bullied throughout secondary school, all it did was make me determined to get through it. But some people take it too far, in which case the subject should report it to someone who can deal with it.
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