My friend won an origional X box on one of these, 2 years after it was released.
You guys really need to figure this out. ugh..
If you stop the block EXACTLY When it is on top of the tower, your going to lose. That block is moving faster than your human reflexes are. You have to measure your human reflex speed, there's a site for that, search human reflexes. Then time how fast the top block is going. Then compensate by pressing the button when you see it at a certain place based on your average human reaction time. For instance
Lets say your Human response rate is 300 ms. The block is moving at say.... 150 Ms. 300/150 = 2.
Hit the button when it is two squares from the tower, headed towards the tower. This won't ALWAYS work, as again, human reaction time AVERAGE is different, and you might be faster, you might be slower. Again this math is not true, i have no idea how fast that block moves, and i believe the speed can be set. So video tape yours, go to frame by frame, measure the amount of frames it takes to move from one end to the other, do the math with your response time, and win.
Ooor have a sixth sense. I have one :D. Naa the math might work better. Hope this helps
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;23459527]You guys really need to figure this out. ugh..
If you stop the block EXACTLY When it is on top of the tower, your going to lose. That block is moving faster than your human reflexes are. You have to measure your human reflex speed, there's a site for that, search human reflexes. Then time how fast the top block is going. Then compensate by pressing the button when you see it at a certain place based on your average human reaction time. For instance
Lets say your Human response rate is 300 ms. The block is moving at say.... 150 Ms. 300/150 = 2.
Hit the button when it is two squares from the tower, headed towards the tower. This won't ALWAYS work, as again, human reaction time AVERAGE is different, and you might be faster, you might be slower. Again this math is not true, i have no idea how fast that block moves, and i believe the speed can be set. So video tape yours, go to frame by frame, measure the amount of frames it takes to move from one end to the other, do the math with your response time, and win.
Ooor have a sixth sense. I have one :D. Naa the math might work better. Hope this helps[/QUOTE]
The rigging in question is that even if you timed it perfectly, if the gods smiled upon you and the timing aligned, when the block lands on top to get you that prize, it doesn't stay there, and it moves.
Theoretically, anyway.
It's like the claw grabbers. They are, infact, rigged. What claw grabbers do is have a "difficulty" setting which really doesn't adjust difficulty at all. What it does is decrease the chance of winning severely by changing the power that goes to the claw. Essentially between certain play intervals a player will win. To simplify it. The software is set up so that every time someone plays they will lose, but after it's played lets says 30 times, the guy who plays the 31'st game will win. Everyone who played games 1-30 will lose.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;23459755]It's like the claw grabbers. They are, infact, rigged. What claw grabbers do is have a "difficulty" setting which really doesn't adjust difficulty at all. What it does is decrease the chance of winning severely by changing the power that goes to the claw. Essentially between certain play intervals a player will win. To simplify it. The software is set up so that every time someone plays they will lose, but after it's played lets says 30 times, the guy who plays the 31'st game will win. Everyone who played games 1-30 will lose.[/QUOTE]
It depends, sometimes I've been on streaks with those things.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;23459755]It's like the claw grabbers. They are, infact, rigged. What claw grabbers do is have a "difficulty" setting which really doesn't adjust difficulty at all. What it does is decrease the chance of winning severely by changing the power that goes to the claw. Essentially between certain play intervals a player will win. To simplify it. The software is set up so that every time someone plays they will lose, but after it's played lets says 30 times, the guy who plays the 31'st game will win. Everyone who played games 1-30 will lose.[/QUOTE]
Zat is theoretical Probability. The 31st person doesn't get a better chance. It is possible to beat that claw's Hax. Its just a pain the the arse to do. However I DO believe it works that way by going through like, 30 people then "letting" someone win, but you do have a chance of doin it even if your not one of those 31. It just takes skill, since its a VERY slim chance. Now if we could get the makers of these things on here to tell us the truth, that would be helpful. But then they lose money.
Greedy little jerks >_<
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[QUOTE=Vinze;23460128]It depends, sometimes I've been on streaks with those things.[/QUOTE]
Several times in a row? I mean like, RIGHT after winning one you win another? Not as in, win one, do one another day and win again. More as in, RIGHT after your previous win. If so then it would disprove Vinze's Theory.
Chance =/= skill
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;26321427]Zat is theoretical Probability. The 31st person doesn't get a better chance. It is possible to beat that claw's Hax. Its just a pain the the arse to do. However I DO believe it works that way by going through like, 30 people then "letting" someone win, but you do have a chance of doin it even if your not one of those 31. It just takes skill, since its a VERY slim chance. Now if we could get the makers of these things on here to tell us the truth, that would be helpful. But then they lose money.
Greedy little jerks >_<[/QUOTE]
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About 2 or 3 years ago I won an iPod Shuffle on a Stack Em up machine. It took me four goes and on the first three I got to the penultimate block and missed by one. I sold the iPod to my sister for £30.
Obviously there is an element of skill in the game [b]to an extent[/b], and that extent is up until the last block, where it's basically luck - there's indubitably a setting of sorts that says there is an X chance of it winning and a Y chance of it losing, where Y is significantly greater than X.
I watched 3 kids try it while I was eating dinner somewhere. They got to the top level each time, and I watched it stop at the top, and then it scooted over. It's definitely rigged.
I thought I won an iPod when it was some shitty rip off of one.
It is rigged. Best way to do it I found is to listen to the music, whenever you hear the drumkick(?) it should be on the side. Just time it correctly like that. Easy winnings.
My friend won an iPod Nano out of it after only 3 or 4 attempts. I was pretty surprised and jealous.
My brother won a GameCube second try a few years back.
I've seen the manual. It's rigged.
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;23433716]The owner can be a jerk and set it to like, 1 in 1600, but at that point there better be a freaking Mattress inside.[/QUOTE]
a mattress? what the fuck
Sorry about shoddy quality but this seems pretty telling.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy3Kjqvz75I[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj2kxE2w_08&feature=related[/media]
I keep on seeing YouTube videos of it being like "IT'S RIGGED" and them showing a slow motion video of them clearly pressing it when it wasn't on the top...
[QUOTE=phill977;26377633]I keep on seeing YouTube videos of it being like "IT'S RIGGED" and them showing a slow motion video of them clearly pressing it when it wasn't on the top...[/QUOTE]
If you look at the top video in my post you can see that the block flat out did not register.
The second one showed it skipping a spot.
They aren't rigged, just as close as they can get without being so.
You can bet your ass someone would've taken these guys for all the money they could with a good lawyer by now if they were, there's lots of money to be gained.
Of course its rigged, those mid level prizes are cheaper than it takes to play 1 game and those high level prizes are almost never won.
They make you think you won already by having those cheap prizes but really you just keep giving them money.
Those games are designed to be money sinks.
It's not rigged. I won a ripoff of a ipod shuffle though. It said "MP3" on it everywhere :v:
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;23433716] The owner can be a jerk and set it to like, 1 in 1600, but at that point there better be a freaking Mattress inside. [/QUOTE]
Really? A Mattress?
Found this in LMAO pics a few days ago:
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/283_Stacker.gif[/img]
It's so true. The arcade game Speed Demon is the best game I've seen. I can get the jackpot every time. I used to do it on the 3 machines at the Minnesota State Fair and give like 3-5000 tickets to the youngest kid or who had like 3 tickets. :D. Most parents thought I was crazy but getting that amount of tickets with 5-10 bucks is definitely not what the arcade wanted.
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