• I think Obama really needs our votes in 2012
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[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25717066]Those idiots will NEVER win, if the United States isn't literally retarded they won't get into the primaries [/QUOTE] [img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01016/bush-expression_1016531i.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Nahyan;25717771]Personally, I see the Tea Party more of a Nazi party since: a) their main platform is criticizing the ruler's poor handling of an economic meltdown b) they attack a religious minority c) they are WAAAY patriotic Also, yes, radical fundamental changes have caused civilizations to collapse, but it also saved/projected them to new Heights. Teddy Roosevelt's trustbusting created workers rights. You should be proud you are not working in a sweatshop for $1 an hour. Bolshevik Revolution made Russia the most liberated country on the planet('till the Stalinist reforms. That is what truly killed the USSR). Revolution in 1776 created a new nation in North America. The introduction Islam & its ethics in an EXTREMELY paganistic/barbaric region expanded an empire in less than a century. Basically, that is a subjective argument you gave me. Simply generalizing about civilizations is not a valid argument.[/QUOTE] Eh, the problem with your argument is that the tea party isn't violent. okay I guess the curb stomping deal the other day was pretty violent, but that's just one crazy ass dude. Overall I personally don't think the tea party is a threat, but they definitely are a major player in this election, like it or not. It's impossible to go back to the early 1800's economic policies, because back then our government and our country as a whole was not that powerful. Nowadays things are a lot more complicated. The tea party has some good arguments, but I don't think what they stand for is going to work any more than the current policy.
[QUOTE=Nahyan;25717771]Personally, I see the Tea Party more of a Nazi party since: a) their main platform is criticizing the ruler's poor handling of an economic meltdown b) they attack a religious minority c) they are WAAAY patriotic Also, yes, radical fundamental changes have caused civilizations to collapse, but it also saved/projected them to new Heights. Teddy Roosevelt's trustbusting created workers rights. You should be proud you are not working in a sweatshop for $1 an hour. Bolshevik Revolution made Russia the most liberated country on the planet('till the Stalinist reforms. That is what truly killed the USSR). Revolution in 1776 created a new nation in North America. The introduction Islam & its ethics in an EXTREMELY paganistic/barbaric somehow established region expanded an empire in less than a century, with several religious communities coexisting under a code of universal ethics(inspiring several humanitarian efforts today). Basically, that is a subjective argument you gave me. Simply generalizing about civilizations is not a valid argument.[/QUOTE] For one, the media really skews what the tea party represents and they seem to only care about the outrageous few making sure those people get airtime and paint the party like that. I don't necessarily support them, but being patriotic and standing for the founding principles on which the country is based is certainly a more level headed agenda then telling people how much money they're allowed to make, and "spreading the wealth" for "fairness", as Obama is busy trying to push on the American people. If that's not textbook Socialism, then I don't know what is, and every party is nuts in that case then. If you actually believe Obama is a safer choice compared to people genuinely scared of what the powers that be are busy doing to fundamentally transform the country, then you're part of the problem.
Honestly, both parties are cancer. Both need to die. [sp]Tea party counts as republican though[/sp]
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25717746]I'm just curious as to why I'm being dumb, I like to learn, and I like to learn from the mistakes I make.[/QUOTE] shut it
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25717746]I'm just curious as to why I'm being dumb, I like to learn, and I like to learn from the mistakes I make.[/QUOTE] [img]http://celebritydiagnosis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/billclinton.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Insulator;25717817]Eh, the problem with your argument is that the tea party isn't violent. okay I guess the curb stomping deal the other day was pretty violent, but that's just one crazy ass dude. Overall I personally don't think the tea party is a threat, but they definitely are a major player in this election, like it or not. It's impossible to go back to the early 1800's economic policies, because back then our government and our country as a whole was not that powerful. Nowadays things are a lot more complicated. The tea party has some good arguments, but I don't think what they stand for is going to work any more than the current policy.[/QUOTE] In the 1800s, it sucked to be a worker. The problem with the TeaBaggers is that they romanticize of the Guilded Age and the lives of the top cats. They fail to comprehend the hardships that the majority had to endure during this era. Luckily, revision of history is proving them wrong each day.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25717066]Those idiots will NEVER win, if the United States isn't literally retarded they won't get into the primaries [editline]28th October 2010[/editline] They make me mad to look at, I mad[/QUOTE] Ha...ha... You say these idiots will never win, but a news flash for you, Bush won two times in a row in the past times... And I thought it would be impossible for him to win, but I guess that is North America for you.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;25717707]And now suddenly the whole country is waking up to the fact that "Holy shit we fucked up big time". November 2nd will be a major indication of that.[/QUOTE] What the fuck is with you republicans acting like the borg. WE ARE THE MAJORITY WE ARE DISPLEASED WE ARE AMERICA hyperbole doesn't even begin to describe it.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;25717846]For one, the media really skews what the tea party represents and they seem to only care about the outrageous few making sure those people get airtime and paint the party like that. I don't necessarily support them, but being patriotic and standing for the founding principles on which the country is based is certainly a more level headed agenda then telling people how much money they're allowed to make, and "spreading the wealth" for "fairness", as Obama is busy trying to push on the American people. If that's not textbook Socialism, then I don't know what is, and every party is nuts in that case then.[/QUOTE] Socialism is not a bad way to run a country, but most Americans don't agree with socialist policies. Therefore, if socialism were to exist in America, it would quickly be struck down. The American culture is not a socialist culture. Americans don't like sharing.
[QUOTE=bepassley;25717856][img_thumb]http://celebritydiagnosis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/billclinton.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Only badass president we ever had... who didn't drop the first nukes on some japs.
Obama will never get a single vote from me. He's promised that taxes wouldn't go up for anyone making $250,000 each year. WELL GUESS WHO THEY'RE GOING UP FOR MOST ONCE NEXT YEAR COMES AROUND.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;25717873]What the fuck is with you republicans acting like the borg. WE ARE THE MAJORITY WE ARE DISPLEASED WE ARE AMERICA hyperbole doesn't even begin to describe it.[/QUOTE] He didn't say he was republican, just pointing out that yes, the government has fucked up over the last 10 years. The truth is the majority IS displeased, so they will show their displeasure in the upcoming election.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;25717846]For one, the media really skews what the tea party represents and they seem to only care about the outrageous few making sure those people get airtime and paint the party like that. I don't necessarily support them, but being patriotic and standing for the founding principles on which the country is based is certainly a more level headed agenda then telling people how much money they're allowed to make, and "spreading the wealth" for "fairness", as Obama is busy trying to push on the American people. If that's not textbook Socialism, then I don't know what is, and every party is nuts in that case then. If you actually believe Obama is a safer choice compared to people genuinely scared of what the powers that be are busy doing to fundamentally transform the country, then you're part of the problem.[/QUOTE] You are a laugh riot, you know that?
[QUOTE=BURN DOWN;25717892]Obama will never get a single vote from me. He's promised that taxes wouldn't go up for anyone making $250,000 each year. WELL GUESS WHO THEY'RE GOING UP FOR MOST ONCE NEXT YEAR COMES AROUND.[/QUOTE] What most don't realize is that's not a lot of money in some places. In San Francisco and New York, that's barely enough to get by.
[QUOTE=Nahyan;25717862]In the 1800s, it sucked to be a worker. The problem with the TeaBaggers is that they romanticize of the Guilded Age and the lives of the top cats. They fail to comprehend the hardships that the majority had to endure during this era. Luckily, revision of history is proving them wrong each day.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and a permanent change is not a good permanent solution simply because we're going through "hard times" again. It's part of a cycle, that repeats itself because of one simple element in the equation. Humanity. It's the human element that is the variable and causes this economic problems to occur. And the system cleans itself, and starts again. Seeing how you also referred to the party as "TeaBaggers", you clearly exemplified that you're pretty biased, most likely far left, and unqualified to make an assessment on what's right for the country if you're going to blindly accept what networks like MSNBC or Obama tell you is right for everyone.
[QUOTE=BURN DOWN;25717892]Obama will never get a single vote from me. He's promised that taxes wouldn't go up for anyone making $250,000 each year. WELL GUESS WHO THEY'RE GOING UP FOR MOST ONCE NEXT YEAR COMES AROUND.[/QUOTE] Who cares, we live in amerrikuh
[QUOTE=BURN DOWN;25717892]Obama will never get a single vote from me. He's promised that taxes wouldn't go up for anyone making $250,000 each year. WELL GUESS WHO THEY'RE GOING UP FOR MOST ONCE NEXT YEAR COMES AROUND.[/QUOTE] Ughhhhh. This whole planet is fucked, I'm moving to the Moon. It had the common sense to never breed life.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;25717906]You are a laugh riot, you know that?[/QUOTE] I don't see you making an argument. He said patriotism is good, would you disagree with that? Someone trying to "fundamentally transform the United States of America" sounds a bit sketchy to me. Sure you may not agree with him, but at least make some good points.
[QUOTE=Bordercrosser;25717867]Ha...ha... You say these idiots will never win, but a news flash for you, Bush won two times in a row in the past times... And I thought it would be impossible for him to win, but I guess that is North America for you.[/QUOTE] We are surrounded by fucking morons man. A cloud of fucking stupidity covers the continent; and as far as I know, the world.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;25717401]it's same to assume the majority of you are bleeding heart liberals[/QUOTE] Yeah so?
man u know what to show these politician clowns whos boss im going to sit at home watching sanford and son on election day in 2012 i suggest all u able bodied voters like myself do something similiar~
I've never understood that insult.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;25717940]Ughhhhh. This whole planet is fucked, I'm moving to the Moon. It had the common sense to never breed life.[/QUOTE] I'm just waiting for the day in evolution that leads to the destruction of humanity. It's inevitable, and nothing of value will be lost :downs:
[QUOTE=BURN DOWN;25717892]Obama will never get a single vote from me. He's promised that taxes wouldn't go up for anyone making $250,000 each year. WELL GUESS WHO THEY'RE GOING UP FOR MOST ONCE NEXT YEAR COMES AROUND.[/QUOTE] Hold your horses, the bill hasn't been passed yet. If it does pass, it won't have the tax rate go up for wealthy Americans, and if it doesn't pass, the tax cuts will expire, meaning they won't go up.
[QUOTE=Insulator;25717917]What most don't realize is that's not a lot of money in some places. In San Francisco and New York, that's barely enough to get by.[/QUOTE] Haha wat? That's a huge amount of money. I'm looking at 60 grand a year, maybe 100 if I really make it big.
[QUOTE=Insulator;25717917]What most don't realize is that's not a lot of money in some places. In San Francisco and New York, that's barely enough to get by.[/QUOTE] Fine. In some places. But only about a tenth of everyone in America makes that annually.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;25717958]Yeah so?[/QUOTE] lol you say it like it's not a bad thing to be an extremist of any one party.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;25717922]Yeah, and a permanent change is not a good permanent solution simply because we're going through "hard times" again. It's part of a cycle, that repeats itself because of one simple element in the equation. Humanity. It's the human element that is the variable and causes this economic problems to occur. And the system cleans itself, and starts again. Seeing how you also referred to the party as "TeaBaggers", you clearly exemplified that you're pretty biased, most likely far left, and unqualified to make an assessment on what's right for the country if you're going to blindly accept what networks like MSNBC or Obama tell you is right for everyone.[/QUOTE] yew gawd dayum bleedin' hart libruls need to stawp wawtchin that thar EM ESS EN BEE-SEE an start lisnin' ta glenn beck like a real amuhrican gawts ta start askin questions like "Osama wonna them socialists?" an "Constitution says ahm right".
[QUOTE=OutOfPop;25717956]We are surrounded by fucking morons man. A cloud of fucking stupidity covers the continent; and as far as I know, the world.[/QUOTE] People individually are very smart, but in a large group it's shown that they are heartless, greedy, and incredibly stupid.
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