• If you're going to live in a country, please learn their language first
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[QUOTE=asdfghjkl';29830092]My only real problem with all this is that, if I move to a country I would be more than happy to learn the language, but I have a fair share of people that blatantly disregard my language when moving here. I would like to learn some german or russian though.[/QUOTE] But that's you. Not everyone is you. Some people simply don't want to, some people find it very difficult, some people are right-out incapable. I don't blame anyone for choosing to keep their native language and not learn the language of the land, especially when it's not an official language, and the nation accomodates it. I understand why you'd find this frustrating in school and in the job market, but that is the choice of the state and the marketeers, who overall have the same issue as the immigrants: learn the language, or suffer potential inconvenience.
[QUOTE=asdfghjkl';29830218]The only dumb part is the "ps", that's just a dick move.[/QUOTE] that was a joke. I just hang up. Way to ignore all the other points because of that.
Our government has become so messed up, that even the illegal immigrants get more benefits than the average US citizen...
[QUOTE=Motoko Kusanagi;29830242]Our government has become so liberal, that even the illegal immigrants get more benefits than the average US citizen...[/QUOTE] shut up, now you're just trolling
[QUOTE=Kopimi;29830200]Let me move to Chile and speak made up words so you have no idea what I'm saying, Captain Culture[/QUOTE] I'm a white guy in Illinois smart ass. [QUOTE=Kopimi;29830200]If you read the thread you'd know it makes his job as a telemarketer very difficult, and I imagine it would affect ANYONE trying to do their job that encounters someone who doesn't speak the same language as them.[/QUOTE] His job involves calling random people, I have no sympathy.
[QUOTE=Motoko Kusanagi;29830108]He called you amigo? Seriously? I would punch him in the face. Okay, I wouldn't, but I would want to, or I'd just laugh.[/QUOTE] The fuck? Amigo isn't an insult.
[QUOTE=J Paul;29829437]You might find it interesting to know that, at the time of our nations' inception, English only [I]barely[/I] won out as the official language, because the vast majority of the immigrants were German. And that's why we're an English speaking people living in counties with German names.[/QUOTE] I find that German's a very nice language too, I wouldn't mind if that was the official language here.
[QUOTE=Penguiin;29830246]shut up, now you're just trolling[/QUOTE] I replaced the word "liberal" with "messed up" as not to offend anyone, my apologies.
[QUOTE=Motoko Kusanagi;29830242]Our government has become so messed up, that even the illegal immigrants get more benefits than the average US citizen...[/QUOTE] They get the same benefits as an American citizen, though often times illegal immigrants are given government aide that is reserved for actual US citizens. [QUOTE=Motoko Kusanagi;29830269]I replaced the word "liberal" with "messed up" as not to offend anyone, my apologies.[/QUOTE] You're being a dick but it made me laugh
[QUOTE=Penguiin;29830212]okay while they work 40+ hour jobs for less than they'd pay the equivalent US citizen while trying to keep a family in mexico or locally supported tell them they need to find time to try to learn fluent english. I would be willing to bet that most of these "illegal immigrants" are coming up because they are trying to give their kids a better chance than they had, not so much as to live the american dream because it isn't so easy when it takes you forever to get a green card and learn the language[/QUOTE] So that makes it okay for them to give a middle finger to the country they are using to support their family by ignoring the language? I don't even care if they speak fluently, just enough to have an every day conversation. It only benefits them as well.
Aseyigi nihi iyudina adeloquasdi Cherokee. [sp]Maybe you should learn Cherokee.[/sp] After all, Cherokee is the REAL native language of America isn't it?
[QUOTE=gman003-main;29830229]The school was also overcrowded as FUCK - there were 1200 students crammed into a building designed for 800, with trailers for another hundred or so. Between classes, the main hallway was PACKED - it was literally wall-to-wall people.[/QUOTE] My school is borderline De Jure segregated. It reminds me of the National Geographic documentaries about prison. You got the Mexicans in one sector and the Filipinos in another, you got Whites controlling the Language Hall Turf. I for one stick with my Asian Brothers and formed a front in the English Quad. Dem Filipinos are entering our ranks too.
Spanish people keep calling my phone for some reason. I always repeat everything they say with a stupid accent.
[QUOTE=asdfghjkl';29830274]So that makes it okay for them to give a middle finger to the country they are using to support their family by ignoring the language? I don't even care if they speak fluently, just enough to have an every day conversation. It only benefits them as well.[/QUOTE] what are you even talking about giving the middle finger? they are trying to get as much out of living here as anyone else. that is the point and in fact why people moved here in the first place
[QUOTE=asdfghjkl';29830274]So that makes it okay for them to give a middle finger to the country they are using to support their family by ignoring the language? I don't even care if they speak fluently, just enough to have an every day conversation. It only benefits them as well.[/QUOTE] Don't forget that they contribute tot he country as well. Illegal immigrants especially more than the average american through taxes. And again, it should be their choice whether to suffer the inconvenience or not.
America has no legal official language keep that in mind any time you say "learn the official language of a country before you go there hurr durr"
[QUOTE=Chilean;29830250]I'm a white guy in Illinois smart ass. His job involves calling random people, I have no sympathy.[/QUOTE] How does me making an assumption based on literally everything about your online persona make me a smartass. Do you know what smartass even means. White boy be actin a foo'. And yeah, his job is stupid, but that doesn't change the fact that people who don't speak the official language are impossible to deal with, moron. [QUOTE=Zeke129;29830306]America has no legal official language keep that in mind any time you say "learn the official language of a country before you go there hurr durr"[/QUOTE] Nobody cares about the technicality, everyone knows America speaks English.
[QUOTE=Chilean;29830238]that was a joke. I just hang up. Way to ignore all the other points because of that.[/QUOTE] The other points were okay, but have been stated better and you didn't need to repost it.
[QUOTE=trent_roolz;29830292]Aseyigi nihi iyudina adeloquasdi Cherokee. [sp]Maybe you should learn Cherokee.[/sp] After all, Cherokee is the REAL native language of America isn't it?[/QUOTE] Actually, it's a Russian/Chinese language, since "Native Americans" are actually from China/Russia and immigrated here.
Those saying "oh I learned so and so language in under this amount of time" forget to realize that people learn at different rates. I'm pure Puerto Rican and I can't even learn Spanish but my parents speak both English and Spanish fluently.
[QUOTE=trent_roolz;29830292]Aseyigi nihi iyudina adeloquasdi Cherokee. [sp]Maybe you should learn Cherokee.[/sp] After all, Cherokee is the REAL native language of America isn't it?[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.emersonkent.com/images/maps/native_american_map.jpg[/img] Yeah...part of it. Well...it's one of them cultures we killed off.
[QUOTE=Motoko Kusanagi;29830269]I replaced the word "liberal" with "messed up" as not to offend anyone, my apologies.[/QUOTE] it's still trolling because it's a really dumb statement trying to get people riled up
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29830306]America has no legal official language keep that in mind any time you say "learn the official language of a country before you go there hurr durr"[/QUOTE] I was planning on mentioning this, but I'd figured someone else did because there's already 4 pages of posts.
The guy we hired to do our landscaping, Caesar, came from peru not speaking a word of english. He was on a work visa and because he couldnt speak english was having a hard time getting any money because he couldnt communicate about his business. So my dad Helped him learn english to pass the citizenship test. He also gave him a few hundred dollars to help him with his business. Caesar still has a shitty accent so I speak to him in spanish while my dad talks slowly to him in english. Caesar made mad profit from the business and has a bitching motorcycle that he bought completely in cash with no credit. But once again, he still barely speaks english.
[QUOTE=thisispain;29829590]dear american people, stop complaining about language when you don't bother learning any yourself -the rest of the world[/QUOTE] Almost all schools in the US require foreign language courses to be taken in order to graduate :downs:
[QUOTE=Penguiin;29830316]it's still trolling because it's a really dumb statement trying to get people riled up[/QUOTE] How was I trying to get people riled up? It's sadly true. We have social programs that help illegal immigrants and give them government aid and try to help them become legal immigrants. That's our tax money that could be used for other things, especially when we're in an economic recession. We should just deport them.
[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29830336]made mad profit from the business and has a bitching motorcycle.[/QUOTE] Jesus fucking christ that is the most hilarious combination of words I've ever seen
[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29830336]The guy we hired to do our landscaping, Caesar, came from peru not speaking a word of english. He was on a work visa and because he couldnt speak english was having a hard time getting any money because he couldnt communicate about his business. So my dad Helped him learn english to pass the citizenship test. He also gave him a few hundred dollars to help him with his business. Caesar still has a shitty accent so I speak to him in spanish while my dad talks slowly to him in english. Caesar made mad profit from the business and has a bitching motorcycle that he bought completely in cash with no credit. But once again, he still barely speaks english.[/QUOTE] OH THAT MAKES ME MAD BECAUSE HE DIDNT EVEN TRY AND LEARN ENGLISH! WHAT A JERK! ITT
[QUOTE=trent_roolz;29830292]Aseyigi nihi iyudina adeloquasdi Cherokee. [sp]Maybe you should learn Cherokee.[/sp] After all, Cherokee is the REAL native language of America isn't it?[/QUOTE] there were a lot of other native american languages
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;29830327]I was planning on mentioning this, but I'd figured someone else did because there's already 4 pages of posts.[/QUOTE] There needs to be at least some established language. Bureaus will be a bitch when it comes to issuing forms in 50 other languages in certain cities.
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