• Keyboard Dicussions (Pianos, Keyboards, Synths, etc) V1: Playing it like Chopin, feelin' it like Ray
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I'm a drummer who converted to piano like 2 years ago. Still trying to get myself motivated to learn more songs. I currently have an M-Audio oxygen 49 and an old 400-pound Hammond E-112 Organ which I love to death and spend most of my time noodling on. [thumb]http://www.theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/pictures/e100_noc.jpg[/thumb] It looks like a "Granny organ", but don't let it fool you. I might end up chopping the cabinet and throwing the guts into something nicer looking.
Own a Yamaha DX7 and a microKorg along with a PSR 170. I only do 80's music.
Lastnight I got the feeling like "woah I just fucking levelled up" The feeling when you can listen to a song, work out the key in about a minute and jam along to it is just fucking awesome. Especially some of the blues tunes that the Doors have done.
Cypher i'd rate you friendly if opera mobile would let me. I know that feeling Aldo, my dad who i havent seen for 7 odd years eho lives in the US is hopefully sending me a motherfucking Yamaha MM6! I'M SO PUMPED!
[QUOTE=Puddlez;32423418]Cypher i'd rate you friendly if opera mobile would let me. I know that feeling Aldo, my dad who i havent seen for 7 odd years eho lives in the US is hopefully sending me a motherfucking Yamaha MM6! I'M SO PUMPED![/QUOTE] Oh wow that's a nice keyboard! Looks really technical :v: What are those two wheels(?) on the left?
one is pitch bend and the other is modulation/expression
[QUOTE=Fulsam;32403448]I'm a drummer who converted to piano like 2 years ago. Still trying to get myself motivated to learn more songs. I currently have an M-Audio oxygen 49 and an old 400-pound Hammond E-112 Organ which I love to death and spend most of my time noodling on. [thumb]http://www.theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/pictures/e100_noc.jpg[/thumb] It looks like a "Granny organ", but don't let it fool you. I might end up chopping the cabinet and throwing the guts into something nicer looking.[/QUOTE] Hammond organ might be the funkiest instrument there is. Fucking love that thing
Goddamn I'm getting exited to learn piano
[QUOTE=Puddlez;32470184]Goddamn I'm getting exited to learn piano[/QUOTE] It's a fun way too pass the time.
I believe it will be. When I have my machine put in to my room, I'll be a hermit.
So I'm pretty sure the MM6 is way out of my dad's spending range, so it looks like I'm getting an NP-30 or NP-31 Still satisfied :) [editline]1st October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=MrJazzy;31025238]See, my older piano teachers always used H, but then everyone used B so I used it aswell. [editline]10th July 2011[/editline] Also, I never got blues scales to be honest, something sound good with some chords some don't. Basic minor blues scale I use if in C is C, Eb, F, F#, G, Bb and back to C.[/QUOTE] Whenever memorizing a scale I NEVER use flats [u]and[/u] sharps. Ie my blues scale would be either C D# F F# G A# C or C Eb F Gb G Bb C
[QUOTE=Puddlez;32568239] Whenever memorizing a scale I NEVER use flats [u]and[/u] sharps.[/QUOTE] yeah using flats and sharps in the same key signature is very bad form. tsk tsk tsk
Not sure if joke Also saw some 2 year old kid playing some improv perfectly busking in the city today [sp]FUCKING ASIANS[/sp]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojn0pnSm3OY[/media] I swear people who do keyboard demos influence me more than classical musicians themselves But I guess that'll change when I get lessons.
Can't wait to get this MicroKorg XL. Have been trying to get a synth for a while.
Does anyone here play blues?
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;32624682]Does anyone here play blues?[/QUOTE] I'm your man.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32625018]I'm your man.[/QUOTE] Brilliant! I'm just fascinated by the blues and I love it. I've been trying to get into playing it but I have no idea how to start, I mean...the scales I get but I can't find what I want. Is there anything you can do to help?
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;32625339]Brilliant! I'm just fascinated by the blues and I love it. I've been trying to get into playing it but I have no idea how to start, I mean...the scales I get but I can't find what I want. Is there anything you can do to help?[/QUOTE] I'm heading for bed right now, but tomorrow I'll think of something to help you get started. Blues is definitely what I enjoy playing most of all.
even though i can't play piano to save my life, I still lust after a Rhodes piano.
[QUOTE=Puddlez;32618164][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojn0pnSm3OY[/media] I swear people who do keyboard demos influence me more than classical musicians themselves But I guess that'll change when I get lessons.[/QUOTE] can't really remember why but I bought a clp-330 instead of the roland model. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8XTPajSTf8[/media] think it might had something to do with the price o_o
[QUOTE=Zenpod;32355059][img]http://www.obsidianfoxphotography.com/posts/heathenfest/alestorm_001.jpg[/img] <keytars[/QUOTE] A real Keytar player: [img]http://www.cbc.ca/arts/images/pics/miamivice2.jpg[/img]
Okay Cypher, took me a while but I just didn't know what to say really. Alright, I'm gonna use alot of songs as examples now. Blues has a very typical structure when it comes to the chord-progression which you probably already know. The most common one is the 12 bar blues. Basically, 12 bars of chords and then it starts over again. It usually goes; [quote][B]1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 1, 5, 5, 1, 1[/B][/quote] (for example it that's in C major, 1=C 4=F 5=G). There are many ways to variate this. For example you can throw in a 4 on the second bar and a 4 on the third last bar to make it more interesting so it'd look like this: [quote][B]1, 4, 1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 1, 5, 4, 1, 1[/B][/quote] You don't have to do both. If you play it kinda slow, you can have 2 chords on one bar and perhaps put a 5 somewhere. Like this; [quote][B]1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 5, 1, 1, 4, 4, 4, 4, 1, 5, 1, 1, 5, 5, 4, 4, 1, 1, 1, 1,[/B][/quote] In any case, one song usually uses different combinations and variations. I'll give you two examples, one with a high tempo, one a bit slower and you can try to see how they are layed out. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5HKlQ6nGM[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv23JGcSli8[/media] Don't mind the intro on the last one, intros are usually a bit 'weird' or whatever you may say. Anyways that's just some stuff about the chord progressions, if you listen to blues, and especially if you sing it you'll get it. Soloing, or doing improvised riffs, licks or whatever is something you'll do constantly throughout the song. Even during the verses. If playing with a band this may not be true cause someone else may do it instead but usually there are people doing it at the same time, for example a sax+piano or guitar+harmonica or whatever. When soloing in blues there are two main things you need to think about. First, you will solo during the song, but try not to do it when the singer is singing. You do it between the lyric lines, so you'll have to listen and try to feel when to solo and what kinda lick you should do. Second, since blues is alot about going from major to minor and back again you'll have to plan your soloing so that it fits to the chords. I think these are called blue notes, I never looked into it very much. For example when the song is doing a major C, you may not want to use the Eb too much, or atleast not hold it but just use it as a slide note or transition note to a normal E. When the song then goes to a F7 you can use the Eb and you don't want to use the E. You may also use the C7 note, the Bb pretty much anytime but when you go into a G you want to use it the same way you used the Eb note in the C. It can be a bit tricky to understand, especially when reading about it, it'd be much easier to show you but this'll have to do. If you listen to alot of blues guitar you'll get it, it's usually easier to hear what the guitar is playing rather than the piano when listening to blues so it may be easier to learn from that. Anyways, there are some scales you can use when soloing in blues but I myself don't know them, and it kinda varies depening on what chord your currently at in the song and if it's a mostly minor or major type of song. What I mean by that is a song can use 1m, 4m and even 5m (though usually the 5 is a major even if it's like that) then I'd call it a minor, if it uses more 1, 4 and 5 then it's more major. I'll give you two examples. B.B. King - Thrill is Gone (Minor) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrFChQUQihE[/media] One thing to note about this song is that when it goes to the last bars, the 5, it goes from 6b to 5. I'll show you: [quote][B]1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 1, 6b, 5, 1, 1[/B][/quote] (1 and 4 are 1m and 4m in this case but this is just a template) I'm not sure if I should call it a 6b, basically what I mean is that if it's in A it'd look like this: [quote][B]A, A, A, A, D, D, A, A, F, E, A, A[/B][/quote] Note that A and D are minor in the song. Here is more of a 'major' sounding one: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEC4OklodzA[/media] One thing I haven't talked about is the ending of the chord progressions in a lot of songs, it usually isn't as boring as "... 5, 4, 1, 1" and then it starts over. But you'll have to try to figure that out yourself. Anyways here are some good tutorials for learning some nice walking basses, chords and solo. Bass lines [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVYIF42VtOA[/media] You can also use rock comp, which is basically just 1+5 1+6 1+5 1+6, for example in a C chord that'd be C+G C+A C+G C+A, when in F chord that'd be F+C F+D F+C F+D. You can also add the 7, 1+5 1+6 1+7 1+6 and over again. Chords [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pa7IdX3TQo[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0k1oeO2egI[/media] Soloing [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5EFZeptO_Q[/media] He shows alot of sliding or cushing as he calls it. Those are mainly chord soloing though. Listen to guitar if you want to do more one note soloing or whatever. Well, I hope you understand that, but I suck at explaining. If you don't understand there are alot of basic aswell as advanced tutorials on youtube that will be better at teaching you. But if you have any questions or anything just ask me. [editline]8th October 2011[/editline] I'm sure there are plenty of people here who are hell alot better with theory and me and will point out several things I could have explained better or so.
I didn't watch all the videos but I read it. Not the biggest fan of blues anyways but it was nice :v: And on another cool note, the synth i'm getting just dropped $150. Hello expensive gear!
[QUOTE=Puddlez;32679237]I didn't watch all the videos but I read it. Not the biggest fan of blues anyways but it was nice :v: And on another cool note, the synth i'm getting just dropped $150. Hello expensive gear![/QUOTE] Thanks. Which synth was that?
MM6!
I'm having trouble getting both hands to do something different at once, any advice. I'm sure practice will help, but seeing as I just jam rather then learn songs, it's not so fustrating. I also need to learn to play in more keys apart from C (I can play a bit of G and F, but not as proficiantly, I mainly cheat and use the transpose buttons).
Well, work each hand separately. If you got a song, play left hand untill you've got it, then play right hand untill you've got it, then try and play both. It will be tricky at first but just keep doing it and doing it and when you're starting to lose your mind stop and sleep on it and try again the next day :v:
It's for reasons like that why I'm getting paid lessons on Piano. $50 an hour here, but I have to see something through to the end. I said I'd teach myself guitar, all I can do is palm mute and play powerchords coordinatively, anything else I really suck at
I take 20 minute lessons, basically I just go there and play the song I got last week, then I get a new song, chords, scale or whatever and go home practice on it.
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