[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;20445676]Because, If they get in a accident and the car is on fire, They don't have to worry about taking their seat belt off.[/QUOTE]
Yea, just picking themselves out of the tree that they just hit.
[QUOTE=InternetExplore;20453293]So is a crash[/QUOTE]
So you are saying that if you're wearing seatbelts you can't crash?
[QUOTE=Lankist;20453553]Uhh, you do realize you NEED to know how a car fucking works before you get a license, right? You can't get a license if you don't know what everything in your fucking car does.
What the fuck kind of rationale is that? 300 dollar fines just to make sure people know what the flappy belt behind them does?[/QUOTE]
I admit I'm struggling to put my point down in words, it just doesn't seem right that people should die because of their own stupidity. They might deserve it yes, but I don't think they SHOULD die.
Okay I'll try an example:
A mum is driving home from work or something, her kids waiting at home. An accident happens and she wasn't wearing her seatbelt, she gets killed because of it. The law stated that police didn't have to warn/caution about seatbelts because it's their own problem. The kids now have to live their life without their mum because it 'wasn't the police's problem'
Now rewind to our current society where they DO have to. Just about 10 minutes before the accident, a police car on patrol spots this woman not wearing her seatbelt. He pulls her over and gives her a warning and makes sure she fastens her seatbelt. The accident happens and she survives the crash because she was wearing a seatbelt, she gets to go home safe to her kids.
Why should the kids suffer a life without a mum because she was too stupid to wear her seatbelt? Yes, you could say she had what was coming to her. But how is that fair on the kids? A simple warning was all it took to save her life. Now imagine that warning was more than a caution, something like a £80 fine. She would probably been have sent a clearer message not to do that again because of how high the fine was. I'm not saying it would deter [i]all[/i] people doing it. But it would certainly make them think more about it.
Sometimes they itch :saddowns:
[QUOTE=ImBill;20447284]my car doesn't start unless you use the seatbelt[/QUOTE]
This.
I don't care if someone think it's lame. That's because they're an idiot. I'm not going to risk their lives and have the guilt on my conscience for the rest of my life if they die.
They feel incredibly uncomfortable
[QUOTE=alethemagicbum;20453789]Sometimes they itch :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
And you are tall or short they land in weird places on you and its annoying
[I] seat belts are for losers[/I] :smug:
Because they hurt necks. And they are a pain in the ass.
Who cares, they are risking their own safety.
Let the dumb people die for their decisions :v:
Why are you guys arguing about seatbelts?
are you really [u] [b] [i] THAT BORED? [/u] [/b] [/i]
:colbert:
[QUOTE=opaali;20453607]So you are saying that if you're wearing seatbelts you can't crash?[/QUOTE]
You have the right idea it's fun flying out of your car like a cannon ball :downs:
Lankist I have a question for you:
Do you think all people are one hundred percent rational at all times?
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Now, would you trust the voters behind the wheel?
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Would you trust that protester behind the wheel of a car?
How much do you remember of your highschool education?
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Would you trust any of the kids answering these questions behind the wheel?
[b]Humans are not 100% rational 100% of the time.
Humans make errors.
This can come at the cost of their life, or other peoples' lives, even yours.[/b]
Our society works because we take care of each other, not when everything is going well and every one is rational, but when we make mistakes - as all humans do, (this is something you can't deny) you shouldn't be punished for being human; that's entirely misanthropic.
Seatbelts are the most important thing a car driver can wear, to ensure that they survive a car accident.
Look at these statistics: [url]http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/fatal-accident-statistics.html[/url]
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Simply getting your license in the first place does not mean you're a good driver and holding on to it for an extended period of time does not mean that you know all the rules and are a good driver either.
[quote= Wikipedia]Observational studies of car crash morbidity and mortality,[26][27][28] experiments using both crash test dummies and human cadavers indicate that wearing seat belts greatly reduces the risk of death and injury in the majority of car crashes.
This has led many countries to adopt mandatory seat belt wearing laws. It is generally accepted that, in comparing like-for-like accidents, a vehicle occupan
One large observation studying using US data showed that the odds ratio of crash death is 0.46 with a three-point belt, when compared with no belt.[29] In another study, that examined injuries presenting to the ER pre- and post-seat belt law introduction, it was found that 40% more escaped injury and 35% more escaped mild and moderate injuries.[30][/quote]
If you do not believe that human lives should be saved at every morally acceptable cost, then i can't really argue with you on that point, that's something we're going to have to disagree on forever.
I believe that, despite of someone's stupidity, it is not a reason for them to 'deserve' death.
I don't believe anyone 'deserves' death.
These two lines of thinking lead to somewhat morbid ideologies and justifications for things that i don't even want to talk about.
But there is another point where we can agree on; human death is not just a burden on the deceased, no pun intended, but it is a burden for the entire community of that person.
Let me make this argument from my previous post:
Money is used to ensure that the mess caused is cleaned up; this means that child services has to be enabled for any surviving children; hospitals have to fill up with survivors and dispatch time-precious ambulances; roads need to be closed off; funerals need to be arranged.
It's going to put a very heaven burden on society whether there are deaths or just injuries. So society has a stake in whether you take care of yourself or you don't.
It makes them cool and edgy, except they arent so cool and edgy when they are dying on the ground, so it's their loss.
Most of my friends and I enforce seatbelts when we give rides. Though, the only person who doesn't wear a seatbelt in most occasions is my buddy Nate. It usually turns into an annoying argument where he whines about not wanting to put it on because "it's only like a ten mile round trip."
Let me explain something here. We live in FLORIDA, Population: senile old fucks and NASCAR hicks. It's weird to see someone driving in a way that [i]doesn't[/i] endanger his life and the lives of everyone in a 10-15 meter radius. Not to mention that the road systems are so poorly planned out that we have driveways and neighborhood streets on the sides of the freeway that divides our town in half. And above all it's more likely than not that half of the black population in our town is going to be walking in the middle of the freeway. (And, no, I'm not being racist. Why can't our town's black people use crosswalks or sidewalks? Why are they [i]always[/i] walking down the lanes of a 55mph road? And, yes, it is [i]always[/i] black people. :iiam:)
So, as you can imagine, the streets are incredibly fucking dangerous. Neither of my parents had ever been in an accident until they came here. Now my mom has been hit four times (once [i]intentionally[/i]), my dad was nearly killed when a dump truck lost control speeding at 90mph and tore through our front yard and driveway, and I hit a pedestrian who was weaving back and forth on a bike between coming and going lanes of traffic (don't worry, he was okay... at least okay enough to pick up his bike and smash my windshield with it while screaming obscenities at me).
Yeah, so I figure that if you don't want to wear a seatbelt in your own car, that's your business. But if you're in my car, you're buckling that shit.
(Not to mention that people who don't buckle their seatbelts become a risk for everyone else in the car. Remember: anything not secured in a crash can become a projectile.)
[QUOTE=unoriginalname;20445776]He doesn't need one. After all, this is grand theft auto we're talking about. Nobody uses seatbelts.[/QUOTE]
Exacly, just imagine someone stopping a car IRL, opening the door and trying to drag the driver out of his seat but the seatbelt is in the way lol.
Moral of story: people are dumb
If you're driving alone, fine don't wear a seatbelt if you hate it so much. But if you are with other people in the vehicle then buckle up.
If I'm driving and there's a crash I'd rather not have a 150lb idiot flying around the cabin of the car hurting everyone else.
[QUOTE=Acezorz;20453742]I admit I'm struggling to put my point down in words, it just doesn't seem right that people should die because of their own stupidity. They might deserve it yes, but I don't think they SHOULD die. [/QUOTE]
Who appointed you protector of the dumbasses?
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[QUOTE=Acezorz;20455031]Lankist I have a question for you:
Do you think all people are one hundred percent rational at all times?[/QUOTE]
People have the right to be irrational if they damn well please. It doesn't hurt anybody but themselves.
You can't legislate rationality, goddamnit. You just can't. And you goddamn well can't force people to do shit because YOU say it's for their own good. How about you quit playing high and mighty and worry about your own goddamn life rather than sticking your nose into everyone else's.
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[QUOTE=Acezorz;20455031]
Now, would you trust the voters behind the wheel?[/QUOTE]
You act as though them not wearing a seatbelt has some sort of effect on me.
It doesn't.
I don't give a fuck if they do or don't, it's their body. What I do care about is the government telling ME to do shit because they think I can't handle my own goddamn self.
What if the car gains life on its own and starts to arrest you in its interior?
Then youre doomed man! DOOMED!
But in all seriousness, I just dont see whats the use of seatbelts on the back seats.
What kind of accident will make me fly through or over the front seats in order to hit the front windshield? Id understand if I go flying to the side, but then again, id also die if I hit the window on my side, wouldn't I?
But on front seats, of course.
Some kid in Tuscon AZ got ejected and sent like 50 feet because the dumb ass wasn't wearing a seat belt.
My car beeps if the seatbelt isn't on when you turn it on.
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Also automatic cars suck
[QUOTE=Jakobi;20460770]Some kid in Tuscon AZ got ejected and sent like 50 feet because the dumb ass wasn't wearing a seat belt.[/QUOTE]
what if that kid became a human missile, hit another car which in effect swerved and the driver got killed???
I'm the only one on my bus that wears the seat belt. I don't give a fuck what they say, I'll live and they'll all die if we crash.
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Also, not wearing your seatbelt is a very selfish thing to do, because if you crash and die it will affect everyone you know, and it all could have been prevented.
[QUOTE=dass;20460578]But in all seriousness, I just dont see whats the use of seatbelts on the back seats.
What kind of accident will make me fly through or over the front seats in order to hit the front windshield? Id understand if I go flying to the side, but then again, id also die if I hit the window on my side, wouldn't I?[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQNe4uTxJ38&feature=related[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxA7i2DaDT0&feature=related[/media]
I was trying to find the one where the big brother in the back seat doesn't wear a seatbelt, gets launched into the back seat, head-first, and kills his mom by head-butting the headrest. They showed it during my driver's ed classes.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;20445676]Because, If they get in a accident and the car is on fire, They don't have to worry about taking their seat belt off.[/QUOTE]
You're right, that's because they'll be have flown through the shattered windscreen in the collision.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;20460904]what if that kid became a human missile, hit another car which in effect swerved and the driver got killed???[/QUOTE]
what if the car starts flying and grows wings and then takes over the world
[QUOTE=Lankist;20463081]what if the car starts flying and grows wings and then takes over the world[/QUOTE]
formulate
[QUOTE=Lankist;20463081]what if the car starts flying and grows wings and then takes over the world[/QUOTE]
what if you had the ability to make a post that wasn't dodging a valid point?
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