Ever make a video with your favorite music? Don't want to go to jail?
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If for some strange reason this happens to get passed, I'm going to shoot up Congress.
Come on, I love making videos, I love entertaining people, I don't want to have boring videos without music and that is really dull. Fuck you congress for even trying enforce this and taking away my happiness.
So if I do this someone is going to physically slap me?
Wow, its all over.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;30849546]You wouldn't even be able to make a GMod machinima anymore, since it's copyrighted.[/QUOTE]
To whom then? Garry? Valve? Both? Garry is happy that people is using his game for videos, so he wouldn't mind if I do it. But the second problem would be VALVe because of the content in the game, right?
[QUOTE=cdr248;30803386]America is only good for making pictures with Abe Lincoln riding on an eagle shooting at cows and chickens with dual m60's.
[editline]30th June 2011[/editline]
Shit like this. [img]http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/150/i/2010/346/9/3/stephen_colbert_atop_an_eagle_by_sharpwriter-d34rsmh.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
At first glance I thought it was stephen colbert.
[editline]5th July 2011[/editline]
You also stole that from LAMO pics.
This affects everyone in the entire political spectrum and there are not moral beliefs that'd back this shit up (at least at its current state) as far as I know so everyone better be against this. If they aren't then there's no hope for them.
This won't pass, believe it or not congress actually does include some people who have been on the internet before and can see past the end of their own noses as to what this law passing would bring about.
Which is a SHIT TON of people getting thrown in prison followed by riots.
"But Zatharon! the internet is full of fat lazy nerds!"
Why yes, there are quite a few of those, however, little ten year old Timmy's parents are gonna be pretty pissed off when their son gets thrown in a youth detention center for making some youtube videos. Them and about 500 other "10-year old Timmy"s, and once they get pissed, they are gonna start a movement, and the more people get thrown in jail for dumbass reasons like that, the stronger that movements going to become.
So basically, politicians actually do know something about politics, and wont pass this law because of massive SHITSTORMS.
I mean fuck they are already getting an assload of e-mails about it and it hasn't even been voted on by the whole yet.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;30849546]You wouldn't even be able to make a GMod machinima anymore, since it's copyrighted.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and Garry will sue you for uploading a GMod machinima, because Garry is evil and [b]the copyright owner still has to sue you for copyright infringement[/b] for any effect to occur.
Also note: GMod machinimas are [i]already[/i] illegal. The thing is, [b]there is no gamemaker on the face of this planet Earth[/b] who would see a video of their game and SUE SUE SUE.
So stop whining about the bill.
Rather than using the template letter, I looked up my congress rep and sent a personalized email instead. The same email over and over don't stand out as much.
Hopefully they won't pass this, as it will cost us shit loads of money in enforcement (like enforcing pot, which we could be making money on taxes vs wasting it on enforcement) which will result in people still doing it. I am surprised Google isnt making a stink about this, then again they usually don't.
[QUOTE=digigamer17;30847242]Ah shit. Now what will I do for my GMod videos? And my montages I wanna do? Use crap as hell music from artists who are overrated?
This is stupid as hell.
If I get arrested... I'm fucked then.[/QUOTE]
You're in the UK. This shit doesn't apply to you if it passes.
I just found this video and this is better than what I expected the bill would be if the uploader is correct.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x11s8trkFzM[/media]
People still need to get it in their heads that this bill wasn't set up by the whole US government. Somebody thought it was a good idea and now it has to go through the processes to become a law. Even if it does (which it wont) the president is going to have to Veto it or piss of the public.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4UfAL9f74I&feature=related[/media]
This was my response to this bill.
For those of you who didn't sign the petition (or didn't provide a real email adress), here's an update:
[QUOTE]Thanks for urging your lawmakers to oppose Senator Klobuchar's legislation to criminalize video and audio streaming. Nearly 150,000 of you have taken action -- [B]and yesterday we learned that the powers that be are stunned by the opposition and are considering killing the bill.[/B]We need your help once again: Demand Progress has spent months fighting a piece of legislation that's [B]even worse than the streaming bill[/B]. We've been calling it the Internet Blacklist Bill because it will drastically increase the government's power to censor the Internet.
[B][URL="http://act.demandprogress.org/go/pipa_letter/230?akid=744.499072.jXn7Wp&t=1"]Will you click here to urge your lawmakers to oppose the Internet Blacklist Bill? It'll only take a second.[/URL][/B]
PROTECT IP would give the government the power to force Internet service providers, search engines, and other "information location tools" to block users' access to sites that have been accused of copyright infringement -- [B]the initiation of a China-style censorship regime here in the United States.[/B] It has already passed the Senate Judiciary Committee -- we need to act right away.[/QUOTE]
Basically this is the same thing Canada is going through, law makers/ corporations demanding a censored internet. Please take a minute to "sign" and send this off, as well... [URL="http://act.demandprogress.org/act/pipa_letter/?akid=744.499072.jXn7Wp&rd=1&t=1"]REJECT THE PROTECT IP ACT[/URL]
Well, time to send in a letter.
Hey.
Hey guys.
Bill S.978 is NOT what people are making it out to be. Please read the bill before opposing it. Bill S.978 will only apply if you are using a work that causes 2500$ in damages to the intellectual property owner/holder, or make use of IP whose use would require a 5000$ license to use.
S. 968 on the other hand, PROTECT IP, is worth going against.
I pointed out here:
[QUOTE=Detective P;30849912]I know that there's alot of hooplah about this bill, and I understand why, but...
and I may be reading this wrong...
While the part about the offenses to streaming equaling 10 in a 180 day period is true, another requirement must be met- the loss of 2500$ from the copyright holder or the gaining of 2500$ to the streamer.
[quote]`(2) shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years, fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if--`(A) the offense consists of 10 or more public performances by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copyrighted works; and
`(B)(i) the total retail value of the performances, or the total economic value of such public performances to the infringer or to the copyright owner, would exceed $2,500; or
`(ii) the total fair market value of licenses to offer performances of those works would exceed $5,000;'; and... (it goes on to describe what reproduction, distribution, and public performance legally mean)
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So I'm not so certain that this is indeed what everyone makes it out to be.
It says the same thing in both versions of the Senate bill.
[URL]http://thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.978:[/URL]
[editline]2nd July 2011[/editline]
Senate bill 968, however, is what we should be worried about. Protect IP goes above and beyond this bill.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad I live in Sweden. Our government doesn't seem to have quite grasped what the internet is.
A million little kids who uploaded slideshows of their sonic fancharacters with crappy music playing behind a blue default Windows Movie Maker opening will be shipped off to concentration camps.
[QUOTE=Detective P;31072914]
Bill S.978 is NOT what people are making it out to be. Please read the bill before opposing it. Bill S.978 will only apply if you are using a work that causes 2500$ in damages to the intellectual property owner/holder, or make use of IP whose use would require a 5000$ license to use.
[/QUOTE]
You should look into more court cases. The $2500 number can be argued in court for even one song/tv show/movie.
eg. You've got a video on youtube with 2500 views? An argument could easily be made in court, and probably won, that this has done more than $2500 in damage (loss of sales).
Now magnify that by the thousands of artists/ movies/ tv shows there are on youtube/ similar sites. A case for billions in damage could be made against pretty much any website they want. Look at the RIAA vs. Limewire case for instance. Numbers are arbitrary, and not as safe as you'd like to think.
Not to mention laws typically get passed based on similar cases in the past, so it would only be opening the flood gates for more and more things like this, all sighting this one (if it wins) as a source. Further controlling the internet.
Regardless of all this, why on earth would you argue against opposing ANYTHING that takes power out of our hands, even if it were in the slightest, as you believe this will be.
Copyright will never go away. Especially on YouTube. It's bullcrap.
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