• Firearms VI: Glocknades galore!
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I'm not saying it's gradient, but the limit is for hunting weapons. And there's no specified limit for any type of sporting shooting with shotguns. If the limit applies to all kinds of shotguns, then why are mag-extenders allowed for sale?
[QUOTE=Aman VII;31332841]In Canada you can :smug:[/QUOTE] Isn't it an automatic weapon technically? Or does it classify as a canon, and is not under jurisdiction of the Firearms Act? I know the shells would be legal, the restrictions on explosive ammo is below 15mm, which means that i should be able to get a grenade launcher here if it's got at least an 18" barrel, as long as the Explosives Act doesn't say anything.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31333099]Isn't it an automatic weapon technically? Or does it classify as a canon, and is not under jurisdiction of the Firearms Act? I know the shells would be legal, the restrictions on explosive ammo is below 15mm, which means that i should be able to get a grenade launcher here if it's got at least an 18" barrel, as long as the Explosives Act doesn't say anything.[/QUOTE] There is no special class for "big guns" here. Essentially a tanks cannon is treated as a simple single shot rifle in the legal sense. I know most types of military ammunition would be prohibited so I'm not entirely sure how you'd get ammo for it but you are allowed to. Lol shooting giant FMJ bullets out of your T-72 Actually seen some guy on CGN who owns a Bofors. Pretty sure it is a Bofors and even if it isn't it's a large AA gun.
FP wanna pool money together and buy a surplus T-55? Just got to buy one from a country that allows export of functional military vehicles cause Canada allows the import.
Hater we can have multiple topics
I'm joking you nord nerd
[QUOTE=Aman VII;31333151]There is no special class for "big guns" here. Essentially a tanks cannon is treated as a simple single shot rifle in the legal sense. I know most types of military ammunition would be prohibited so I'm not entirely sure how you'd get ammo for it but you are allowed to. Lol shooting giant FMJ bullets out of your T-72 Actually seen some guy on CGN who owns a Bofors. Pretty sure it is a Bofors and even if it isn't it's a large AA gun.[/QUOTE] But the Bofors is automatic, isn't it? Therefore, if it falls under the firearms act regulations, it'll be classified as an automatic weapon and prohibited. I can imagine what the registry would think, someone sending in a registration request for an AA gun. I can imagine the look on the clerk's face. [editline]25th July 2011[/editline] Also, for the fun guns in Norway, check the legality about the SKS. around here they're dirt cheap and so is the military surplus ammo. Other than that, for a .22 plinker I'd recommend the Remington 597. You could also check, in terms of pistols, a Tokarev TT-33 or look around for a reproduction 1911-style gun. Check if they sell Norinco in Norway, it's all Chinese ripoff stuff, so it should be relatively cheap.
Why not?
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;31333653] And isn't either the SVT or SKS easily convertable to full auto?[/QUOTE] That's what every retard says about every gun. Don't believe them. [editline]25th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DaCommie1;31333408]But the Bofors is automatic, isn't it? Therefore, if it falls under the firearms act regulations, it'll be classified as an automatic weapon and prohibited. I can imagine what the registry would think, someone sending in a registration request for an AA gun. I can imagine the look on the clerk's face. [/QUOTE] I'm not entirely sure on that guys circumstances. Maybe it was made to only be semi automatic? I really have no idea. May have not even been a bofors specifically. And you won't need to register your AA gun after autumn :dance:
Also lol at the thought of a full auto SVT. As if that thing would be practical unless your prone or setup in cover somewhere. Have fun falling over as you shoot. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmN5Q2qDOmE&feature=related[/media]
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;31333653]Nobody has bothered or tried to get them approved And isn't either the SVT or SKS easily convertable to full auto?[/QUOTE] No and no, as far as I know. I know Tokarev did design an automatic version of the SVT, but AFAIK it's not easily convertible. The SKS has something known as "slam fire" I've seen before, but that's only accomplished by essentially breaking the firing mechanism, and it's highly a illegal conversion almost everywhere, for a number of reasons other than the "full-auto" aspect of it. The thing with slam fire is your finger doesn't even need to be on the trigger, they break it in such a way so that it goes off as soon as you close the action. See about getting them approved or if they already are, they're both fairly cheap Russian semi-autos, the SKS being the cheaper of the two both for the gun and for the ammo (7.62x39 vs 7.62x54R). Russia, now that they're phasing out the old crap, and are discovering more old war stocks of them that were never used, are exporting them by the tens of thousands, AFAIK we've got a shipment of 20,000 on it's way over here to Canada right now. Also, Aman, depending on the regulations surrounding cannons, you may not even need to have it registered now if it classifies as one. Hell, I remember seeing a mortar launcher for sale on some site that didn't sell firearms for $3500. Can't remember which now, I looked up "army surplus Canada" on google one day when I was bored and it showed up. [editline]25th July 2011[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj3QtnUWCwQ[/media] Example of slam fire, the free floating firing pin apparently gets jammed in the forward position, causing the round to go off as soon as it is chambered. [editline]25th July 2011[/editline] Just found [url=http://www.heroarmysurplus.com/sovietrussian-model-1937-81mm-mortar-p-2255.html?osCsid=9ftgoh854qshncvofjit2172r0]that mortar[/url] again, noticed the "deactivated" this time. Disappointing.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31333820]No and no, as far as I know. I know Tokarev did design an automatic version of the SVT, but AFAIK it's not easily convertible. The SKS has something known as "slam fire" I've seen before, but that's only accomplished by essentially breaking the firing mechanism, and it's highly a illegal conversion almost everywhere, for a number of reasons other than the "full-auto" aspect of it. The thing with slam fire is your finger doesn't even need to be on the trigger, they break it in such a way so that it goes off as soon as you close the action. See about getting them approved or if they already are, they're both fairly cheap Russian semi-autos, the SKS being the cheaper of the two both for the gun and for the ammo (7.62x39 vs 7.62x54R). Russia, now that they're phasing out the old crap, and are discovering more old war stocks of them that were never used, are exporting them by the tens of thousands, AFAIK we've got a shipment of 20,000 on it's way over here to Canada right now. Also, Aman, depending on the regulations surrounding cannons, you may not even need to have it registered now if it classifies as one. Hell, I remember seeing a mortar launcher for sale on some site that didn't sell firearms for $3500. Can't remember which now, I looked up "army surplus Canada" on google one day when I was bored and it showed up. [editline]25th July 2011[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj3QtnUWCwQ[/media] Example of slam fire, the free floating firing pin apparently gets jammed in the forward position, causing the round to go off as soon as it is chambered. [editline]25th July 2011[/editline] Just found [url=http://www.heroarmysurplus.com/sovietrussian-model-1937-81mm-mortar-p-2255.html?osCsid=9ftgoh854qshncvofjit2172r0]that mortar[/url] again, noticed the "deactivated" this time. Disappointing.[/QUOTE] Why break your gun when you can just learn to bump-fire it?
So, the rifle I was saying stuff about is a Winchester Model 190, and if you need proof, I read that off the barrel. I would've had pictures, but my camera's card reader's drivers wouldn't install correctly. I don't know much about it, although She's been treated with lots of care. Here are the pics [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/208fp02.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/rlx1fq.jpg[/IMG] How is that...
[QUOTE=Aman VII;31333262]FP wanna pool money together and buy a surplus T-55? Just got to buy one from a country that allows export of functional military vehicles cause Canada allows the import.[/QUOTE] Actually, I always liked the idea of buying a BTR or some other eastern bloc armored car maybe a BRDM, finding one for me wouldn't be a problem, but tax and insurance would be shit. Along with the fact that I would have a tragically deactivated pintle mounted weapon on it to be roadworthy. I mean who hasn't dream't of owning something like that?
Guys, quick question: If I am unsure about how the local firearm laws work, who should I contact for more information?
[QUOTE=ewitwins;31351876]Guys, quick question: If I am unsure about how the local firearm laws work, who should I contact for more information?[/QUOTE] The internet lol. What is your question? Someone here might be able to answer it and maybe someone on /k/ can
[QUOTE=Aman VII;31352276]The internet lol. What is your question? Someone here might be able to answer it and maybe someone on /k/ can[/QUOTE] I am most definitely not asking /k/ :v: My question is this: What is the legal age for a handgun purchase in Arizona (commercial transaction), and secondly is it legal for me (an 18yr old) to purchase the parts for a handgun individually if I cannot purchase the handgun as a whole? If that second part isn't clear enough, what are the laws in Arizona on purchasing handgun parts?
I dunno, Facepunch seems a bit more trust-worthy? Honestly I suppose I could ask /k/, but why not just tell me who I can call for more provincial information?
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;31353023]Because I don't know Just ask /k/, the 5 out of 200 people with guns know their shit[/QUOTE] Alright, I guess I'll do that. As a side-note, it seems that finding all of the right parts for the M-1895 Nagant is fucking [B]IMPOSSIBLE[/B] The damn thing has so many individual parts, and I'm trying to see if parting it out would be cheaper than buying the complete revolver, and so far it's been chaotic to say the least. I'm missing parts 1, 2, 9, 13-16, 18-20, 22, 24, 27, 28, 32, 35, 36, 39, and 41-45. Fuck.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;31352321]I am most definitely not asking /k/ :v: My question is this: What is the legal age for a handgun purchase in Arizona (commercial transaction), and secondly is it legal for me (an 18yr old) to purchase the parts for a handgun individually if I cannot purchase the handgun as a whole? If that second part isn't clear enough, what are the laws in Arizona on purchasing handgun parts?[/QUOTE] Handgun purchasing under federal law is 21 years of age commercial. Second question I'm not entirely sure. I am pretty sure the receiver of the gun is considered the firearm so I'd say you could buy everything except that but don't quote me on it
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[QUOTE=ewitwins;31353375]Alright, I guess I'll do that. As a side-note, it seems that finding all of the right parts for the M-1895 Nagant is fucking [B]IMPOSSIBLE[/B] The damn thing has so many individual parts, and I'm trying to see if parting it out would be cheaper than buying the complete revolver, and so far it's been chaotic to say the least. I'm missing parts 1, 2, 9, 13-16, 18-20, 22, 24, 27, 28, 32, 35, 36, 39, and 41-45. Fuck.[/QUOTE] It's better and probably cheaper to buy it full, I can get one for $200 up here. Have fun finding ammo for it, though, it's the only gun still available nowadays that uses it's cartridge.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31356283]It's better and probably cheaper to buy it full, I can get one for $200 up here. Have fun finding ammo for it, though, it's the only gun still available nowadays that uses it's cartridge.[/QUOTE] I crunched the numbers and it would be DRAMATICALLY cheaper to purchase it whole. I can also rechamber it with an aftermarket .32 cylinder so it can fire .32 H & R or .32 ACP, which is much easier to find.
I've heard it works without rechambering, but it's not recommended. As well, I know up here rechambered versions would be illegal, as .32 and .25 calibre firearms are outright, and for no real good reason, banned in Canada. You can still find the ammo, though, which is kinda funny, it's easier to get ammo for banned calibre firearms than for a legal, but old, revolver.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31359561]I've heard it works without rechambering, but it's not recommended. As well, I know up here rechambered versions would be illegal, as .32 and .25 calibre firearms are outright, and for no real good reason, banned in Canada. You can still find the ammo, though, which is kinda funny, it's easier to get ammo for banned calibre firearms than for a legal, but old, revolver.[/QUOTE] Don't you dare even mention that child molesting calibre .32 ACP! I heard that round is favored by school shooters because it bounces around in peoples skulls like a god damn pinball machine! [editline]27th July 2011[/editline] and yeah the random stupid calibre ban does piss me off. Makes getting a Skorpion more annoying. They are importing a bunch of 9x18 and .380 Skorps though so that's cool
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BpI3xD6h0[/url] AK47 is really more powerful and stable!
I don't own an M16 and I've never fired one so I can't really make a comparison. All I know is that the AK47 fires a big fuck off round that stops things dead, it's mega fun too.
LOL "Standard Rifle Bullet"
[QUOTE=Aman VII;31360847]Don't you dare even mention that child molesting calibre .32 ACP! I heard that round is favored by school shooters because it bounces around in peoples skulls like a god damn pinball machine! [editline]27th July 2011[/editline] and yeah the random stupid calibre ban does piss me off. Makes getting a Skorpion more annoying. They are importing a bunch of 9x18 and .380 Skorps though so that's cool[/QUOTE] Hmm, I thought they were banned. I take it they're classed as a pistol?
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31365827]Hmm, I thought they were banned. I take it they're classed as a pistol?[/QUOTE] nope I wish they were so they wouldn't have a stupid 5 rnd mag. It's considered a restricted
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