[QUOTE=Ultralast;27650462]Dude, you took a lot of acid. How's the afterglow?[/QUOTE]
Three drops worth is hardly a lot of acid...
wait what? around here three tabs of acid will make you wake up on a floaty in a swimming pool with your pants on your head surrounded by orange skins and half eaten shrimp cocktails.
true story.
plus saying acid isn't bad for you is really dumb. if you have the slightest bit of mental illness in you or your family you're putting your mind at a great risk. syd barret? or whatever that guys name was.
acid isn't something you should be taking very often, it can really really fuck up your mind. and don't go spewing some bullshit about how experience or whatever will save you. maintaining healthy composure during an intense trip won't do much to stop the drug induced soup of chemicals in your brain from fucking shit up.
I disagree.
pretty much every hippy i've ever known to exist who engaged in heavy psychedelic use has some major problems or is dead.
Albert Hoffman died at a ripe old age, having suffered no loss in mental clarity from his use of LSD throughout the duration of his life
Alexander Shulgin is 85 years old(75 is the average lifespan of an American male I think). He's suffering from some physical illnesses but he's still kicking.
1. that's one person.
2. i bet he didn't use that much and even if he says he did there's no way to prove it
3. no [I]keyword:[/I] "perceived" loss of mental function. (he didn't have a shrink did he?)
Doesn't he have cancer? Unrelated to his drug use, if I recall correctly.
But yes, excellent example. I have both PiKHAL and TiKHAL, and the man has inspired me to pursue psychopharmacology. Brilliant man.
[editline]25th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;27658732]1. that's one person.
2. i bet he didn't use that much and even if he says he did there's no way to prove it
3. no [I]keyword:[/I] "perceived" loss of mental function. (he didn't have a shrink did he?)[/QUOTE]
He fucking INVENTED LSD lol
I'm going to stand by my point here
Well I may not have invented jenkem, but I don't have to try it to tell you it's bad for you.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;27658751]
He fucking INVENTED LSD lol[/QUOTE]
just because someone invented something doesn't mean they use it erry day, or at all for that matter.
Honestly i don't care what drug it is, all drugs most likely have negative effects on the brain because they for the most part cause unnatural reactions and fuck with your brain. And just because there are receptors for it doesn't mean taking a drug that stimulates those receptors is a good idea.
just because just because just because.. fuck, can't i think of another phrase?
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;27657813]wait what? around here three tabs of acid will make you wake up on a floaty in a swimming pool with your pants on your head surrounded by orange skins and half eaten shrimp cocktails.
true story.
plus saying acid isn't bad for you is really dumb. if you have the slightest bit of mental illness in you or your family you're putting your mind at a great risk. syd barret? or whatever that guys name was.
acid isn't something you should be taking very often, it can really really fuck up your mind. and don't go spewing some bullshit about how experience or whatever will save you. maintaining healthy composure during an intense trip won't do much to stop the drug induced soup of chemicals in your brain from fucking shit up.[/QUOTE]
Ok now I'm mad, LSD wasn't what fucked up Syd's life. Syd obviously had some issues in his past and those issues combined with such a powerful drug such as LSD can lead to things like schizophrenia and sometimes bipolar disease. These however also have to do with the fact that the user has had a history with a mental illness and had what you could call an odd persona. He was one of those musicians often labeled as an "acid causality" of the sixties, but even though most of the accusations are true, the greater tale of his life had little to do with acid and should be known as a diamond in the rut.
Most of his close and personal acquaintances would describe his personality as intuitive and fragile, he had a very unique talent and a mind that existed on a whole different plane of existence. Before he imploded and went "nuts", you could see the breakdown of his psyche in some of the earlier songs him and Pink Floyd wrote. The song "Matilda Mother" has to deal with his emotions towards authority's lies and how he dealt with instability. If you have ever listen to Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and other singles that he wrote at the time were sounds that most of the world ever heard. He was extending the boundaries of rock, he led Pink Floyd past the usual 4/4 sex and love themes and creating what I think is an absolute felicity. His music was a psychedelic trip into the musical thinking of Syd, he would push his instrument to it's boundaries and knew how to handle it, most critics say that the only thing the he lacked in order to achieve a star status of other artists of his time was his inability to have a consistency with his music. He often wrote original/extreme works that often never followed the previous utilizing obscure/hypnotic chanting, vacant storytelling, with explosive choruses and combined dream imagery and irony to create what goes on inside people's heads when their minds wander aimlessly. He was one of the greatest rock and rollers of all time and heavily influenced Pink Floyd after his departure, they used what Syd was able to teach them and applied it to most of their later albums used sound and alliteration as an emotional tool which is absolutely Barrettonian. The band says that the song "Shine on You Crazy Diamonds" is an alliteration to the band's outrage at the whoring business that rock and roll had become and it's toll on Barrett. By 23 Syd had become socially awkward on stage, often facing the amps and treating his guitar with absolute care because he feared the crowd would be displeased if he didn't do something ambiguous every time he was on stage and sort of becoming a perfectionist and was often engulfed with fear of preforming and they had to often have a stand-in play his part.
I'm not saying that you are wrong, sure acid might of been a catalyst for his insanity and his poor mental health that pretty much lasted until he died. Hell, during his years of instability, doctors had deemed him incurable as though he breached a barrier and could never come back through the way he came, he was lost forever and everyone knew it. His final moments with Pink Floyd, none of his fellow band members couldn't follow his grasp on ordinary reality, his crazy antics and odd behaviors were accepted as "just Syd" until they could no longer preform together. There are some horrifying stories of his antics caused by the drug, but back then LSD was in it's hay days, it changed a nation's entire social structure and was often said to have created a period of insanity, which some may of never returned from. They were crazy back then, that wave of excitement, thrills, and revelations will never exist again and he was unique to his time. That wave has been long dead and will eventually be forgotten by the sands of time, you can't compare the causes of his insanity to modern day standards. We've changed to much in the past fifty years to fully understand that generation, its a generation that most envy and wish to ride again.
I don't blame you for not knowing of his story, not many do but I just don't like to hear one of my musical heroes to be used as a statistic, in fact no human should become another number in a book of negatives and we often forget about the positives. Everyone has a story and has their reasons, but today I just categorize the basic details and the main jest of things. Syd was a beautiful mind that needs to be learned about more often in this fearful society that believe these grave tales from the sixties that ever so haunt them. To help you understand Barret's mind let me put it this way, if anyone has ever been in chronic pain and confusion can sympathize with Barrett. Anyone ever waiting to be dealt a punishment or having an everlasting drug experience have experienced Barrett's fears. Anyone who has stood on the edge of chaos and felt the panic of falling into the void can comprehend Barrett. Someone who's almost came close to the true meaning of the universe and then lost the definition on the tip of their tongue knows what its like to be a crazy diamond. Barrett wasn't an acid freak, he was just Syd.
[QUOTE=buffalo bill;27662831]Ok now I'm mad, LSD wasn't what fucked up Syd's life. Syd obviously had some issues in his past and those issues combined with such a powerful drug such as LSD can lead to things like schizophrenia and sometimes bipolar disease. These however also have to do with the fact that the user has had a history with a mental illness and had what you could call an odd persona. He was one of those musicians often labeled as an "acid causality" of the sixties, but even though most of the accusations are true, the greater tale of his life had little to do with acid and should be known as a diamond in the rut.
Most of his close and personal acquaintances would describe his personality as intuitive and fragile, he had a very unique talent and a mind that existed on a whole different plane of existence. Before he imploded and went "nuts", you could see the breakdown of his psyche in some of the earlier songs him and Pink Floyd wrote. The song "Matilda Mother" has to deal with his emotions towards authority's lies and how he dealt with instability. If you have ever listen to Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and other singles that he wrote at the time were sounds that most of the world ever heard. He was extending the boundaries of rock, he led Pink Floyd past the usual 4/4 sex and love themes and creating what I think is an absolute felicity. His music was a psychedelic trip into the musical thinking of Syd, he would push his instrument to it's boundaries and knew how to handle it, most critics say that the only thing the he lacked in order to achieve a star status of other artists of his time was his inability to have a consistency with his music. He often wrote original/extreme works that often never followed the previous utilizing obscure/hypnotic chanting, vacant storytelling, with explosive choruses and combined dream imagery and irony to create what goes on inside people's heads when their minds wander aimlessly. He was one of the greatest rock and rollers of all time and heavily influenced Pink Floyd after his departure, they used what Syd was able to teach them and applied it to most of their later albums used sound and alliteration as an emotional tool which is absolutely Barrettonian. The band says that the song "Shine on You Crazy Diamonds" is an alliteration to the band's outrage at the whoring business that rock and roll had become and it's toll on Barrett. By 23 Syd had become socially awkward on stage, often facing the amps and treating his guitar with absolute care because he feared the crowd would be displeased if he didn't do something ambiguous every time he was on stage and sort of becoming a perfectionist and was often engulfed with fear of preforming and they had to often have a stand-in play his part.
I'm not saying that you are wrong, sure acid might of been a catalyst for his insanity and his poor mental health that pretty much lasted until he died. Hell, during his years of instability, doctors had deemed him incurable as though he breached a barrier and could never come back through the way he came, he was lost forever and everyone knew it. His final moments with Pink Floyd, none of his fellow band members couldn't follow his grasp on ordinary reality, his crazy antics and odd behaviors were accepted as "just Syd" until they could no longer preform together. There are some horrifying stories of his antics caused by the drug, but back then LSD was in it's hay days, it changed a nation's entire social structure and was often said to have created a period of insanity, which some may of never returned from. They were crazy back then, that wave of excitement, thrills, and revelations will never exist again and he was unique to his time. That wave has been long dead and will eventually be forgotten by the sands of time, you can't compare the causes of his insanity to modern day standards. We've changed to much in the past fifty years to fully understand that generation, its a generation that most envy and wish to ride again.
I don't blame you for not knowing of his story, not many do but I just don't like to hear one of my musical heroes to be used as a statistic, in fact no human should become another number in a book of negatives and we often forget about the positives. Everyone has a story and has their reasons, but today I just categorize the basic details and the main jest of things. Syd was a beautiful mind that needs to be learned about more often in this fearful society that believe these grave tales from the sixties that ever so haunt them. To help you understand Barret's mind let me put it this way, if anyone has ever been in chronic pain and confusion can sympathize with Barrett. Anyone ever waiting to be dealt a punishment or having an everlasting drug experience have experienced Barrett's fears. Anyone who has stood on the edge of chaos and felt the panic of falling into the void can comprehend Barrett. Someone who's almost came close to the true meaning of the universe and then lost the definition on the tip of their tongue knows what its like to be a crazy diamond. Barrett wasn't an acid freak, he was just Syd.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit bro you wrote a mid term paper of syd in my thread.
It was just an example i pulled out of my ass, if you want a better one read the list philip k dick made at the end of a scanner darkly commemorating and listing the drug induced disabilities of his closest friends in addition to himself.
Thinking a drug of any kind is completely harmless is idiotic, that's my point, not that syd barret is a loon
-snip nvm i was going to post something but i dun feel like it anymore-
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;27662999]Thinking a drug of any kind is completely harmless is idiotic, that's my point, not that syd barret is a loon[/QUOTE]
LSD is harmless.
Think what you will of me, but I will not budge on that.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;27665213]LSD is harmless.
Think what you will of me, but I will not budge on that.[/QUOTE]
i haven't noticed a SINGLE bad effect on any of me and my various friends after frequent lsd use over a few months. all of us feel different but it's for the better. i feel like my brain is working faster. i have no idea if it actually is, but i've never regretted dropping. and i truly believe it has no ill effects.
a few months doesn't mean shit dude. try a few years of doing it constantly and get back to me. even then you could not notice it or mistake it for a good thing when it's really bad.
Typically is LSD expensive?
it really really can vary from area to area. it depends upon how close your dealer is to the main source (as in the "drug dealing ladder", not as in distance), how far the source (chemist) is from your area and how much the chemist who synthesizes it makes.
I see
I'm going to make it my mission to try to get some before this year is over, however I don't know how likely that is as I only know a bunch of dealers who sell weed.
Might have to end up ordering it
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;27665815]a few months doesn't mean shit dude. try a few years of doing it constantly and get back to me. even then you could not notice it or mistake it for a good thing when it's really bad.[/QUOTE]
Hoffman dropped acid pretty much everyday with many tolerance breaks, no he did not dropped full tripping dose but in this manner : First day: 10mcg, second day: 20mcg, third day 40mcg etc then he had tolerance break and started over.
Doing any drug constantly even weed can fuck you up, but weed wouldn't fuck you up long term either acid wouldn't.
A lot of the trippy drugs actually lay new connections in your brains.
I did hear more than a few stories of people being stuck in their acid trip for a long time.
so what is afterglow?
exactly what it sounds like
hint:[sp]glow=good feeling[/sp]
Afterglow is the period of time where you experience residual effects of the drug. Can last anywhere from a few hours to well into the next day.
So like a hangover but not shit?
Well that sounds pretty badass actually
[QUOTE=Anubis678;27683958]Afterglow is the period of time where you experience residual effects of the drug. Can last anywhere from a few hours to well into the next day.[/QUOTE]
I must say, DXM afterglows are amazing. You feel like such a boss.
LSD destroyed Syd Barrett lmao. He went from light bi-polarity to full blown psychopath. Don't try LSD if you have existing mental illnesses
well i think that's true with any drug, don't do drugs if you're already mindfucked.
[editline]27th January 2011[/editline]
especially acid though, it's basically temporary insanity. you may not call it insanity cause it's so awesome but that's literally what it is. you can't properly process your environment, at least compared to everyone else's terms and your regular terms.
i watched donnie darko on acid and i had a sort of revelation about how difficult mental disorders can be. like schizophrenics can never trust what they're seeing. i don't know what i'd do if i ended up having that.
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