• Language Learning - Parlez-Vous français?
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[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;37795752] Also, if you want to make informal small talk, know about portuguese football. You have idea how big football is here.[/QUOTE] But I hate football. Hell I hate sports in general.
This may sound like an odd question but if you learn "Mexican Spanish" Will you be able to talk to actual Spanish people just the same, or people from any other country who speak the language? I'm assuming there's just small dialect differences? Same for learning GERMAN German, and not "Luxembourg German" or other varieties
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];37806051']This may sound like an odd question but if you learn "Mexican Spanish" Will you be able to talk to actual Spanish people just the same, or people from any other country who speak the language? I'm assuming there's just small dialect differences? Same for learning GERMAN German, and not "Luxembourg German" or other varieties[/QUOTE] They are more or less that same language. That is to say, they are mutually intelligible. For Example, American English differs greatly from Australian English. In Aus English, Thong = Sandal, In American English Jelly= A berry preserve, while in Aus English, Jelly = Jello. There's also a different stress on words. Differences in pronunciation. It's no different from dialects of English.
The slang is probably gonna be very different, though
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];37792938'] I can tell you this though, if you can find someone on steam, or even real life that knows the language (preferably fully rather than a novice/intermediate like yourself so they won't tell you things wrong) it helps, a LOT. [editline]25th September 2012[/editline] [/QUOTE] This helps oh so very much. Just make sure they're being honest or you might get in trouble.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;37806204]They are more or less that same language. That is to say, they are mutually intelligible. For Example, American English differs greatly from Australian English. In Aus English, Thong = Sandal, In American English Jelly= A berry preserve, while in Aus English, Jelly = Jello. There's also a different stress on words. Differences in pronunciation. It's no different from dialects of English.[/QUOTE] Oh thank god that's a relief. Was worried if I took it up in the future it'd be near useless on actual Spanish people. Ofc slang will be different and such but as long as the base language is basically the same I am pleased.
Anyone give me tips on revising my German word order/general grammar and such? Helpful website or something like that for practice would be awesome.
I hate my French class. It's so hard, but that's because my teacher really sucks (at teaching). I am in my third year of French. I studied Japanese for one year. I know more Japanese than French. I went to a Japanese class every Monday evening. My high school only offers Spanish, French and Latin. :suicide: I think Japanese is really easy to learn, just Kanji is a bitch. I think it was so easy for me because I [b][i]REALLY[/i][/b]want to learn it. Right now, the Chinese exchange students are teaching me how to speak Chinese. It's so simple.
[QUOTE=DEG_fan;37816434] Right now, the Chinese exchange students are teaching me how to speak Chinese. It's so simple.[/QUOTE] Wow are you learning reading and writing too or what? Because Mandarin is supposed to be FUCKING HARD to learn. Like. REALLY HARD. As in, one of my friends is currently on a student exchange program (Don't remember to which country but the primary language is Mandarin, it isn't China), he's been there 9 months now and still knows a pretty small amount. And literally all he does all day at the school he attends there is sit in the library studying.
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];37818401']Wow are you learning reading and writing too or what? Because Mandarin is supposed to be FUCKING HARD to learn. Like. REALLY HARD. As in, one of my friends is currently on a student exchange program (Don't remember to which country but the primary language is Mandarin, it isn't China), he's been there 9 months now and still knows a pretty small amount. And literally all he does all day at the school he attends there is sit in the library studying.[/QUOTE] It's hard from a germanic language perspective. Easy if you throw away any ideas of grammar/syntax you have.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;36550511] Luckily, due to regulation pronunciation, any new (Long) German word can be pronounced at first sight. [/QUOTE] Objection! There are no long words. Only this. "Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft"
Does the Euro. Portuguese language use contractions? Like how English users normally use "I'm" in place of "I am"? Some info'd be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];37792938'] Omfg someone who spells konnichiwa right I love you c: idk why it just pisses me off so much when people spell it with one n[/QUOTE] こにちわ! :v: Edit: Shitty pageking. Let's fix that. If anyone wants to use a good textbook to learn 日本語, the Genki textbook is a great one. The only thing is that it's condensed as Campbell's soup. Here's a picture if you want to find a place to get it: [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F_LbF-P91oQ/Ti2o_4DEs9I/AAAAAAAAAD8/tjaTHVJdfUU/s1600/genki1-textbook.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Se1f_Distruct;37824890]こにちわ! [/QUOTE] YOU'RE DEAD TO ME
[QUOTE=Se1f_Distruct;37824890]こにちわ![/QUOTE] 闭嘴,笨蛋。
[QUOTE=MitchvW;36550599]I've been trying to learn Japanese for 2 months now so that I can finally understand those unsubtitled hentais :V.[/QUOTE] I assume it hasn't worked out.
I have learned all Hangul consonants, working on vowels. I also know all introduction phrases and can keep up a conversation.
i have to be honest, rosetta stone IS helpful when you're taking a class on the language and you use it. i wouldn't call it completely useless. it just won't teach you a language alone [editline]28th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Maruhai;37326355]Oui, c'est très intéressant de parler avec les fromages.[/QUOTE] sweet i understood 2 things from that [editline]28th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=kirederf7;37372640]Bonjour, je m'appelle Claude.[/QUOTE] salut! je m'appelle le deux douze. tu aimes?
A facepuncher just asked me for help learning spanish over steam. For school, and to learn to converse. So, here's my advice. Day to day, i found myself not knowing verbs that are common to the langauge. I didn't know "to want" untill my third year! yesterday it was the verb to need. Grabbing the essential verbs, is really important. You can creatve variety in texts, and attain a higher mark. A solid understanding of tenses is important too, Past simple, simple future can be mastered in 30 minutes. The finer points do take longer though. If a teacher see's you using a tense she hasn't taught, it's big bonus marks. Subjuctive mood also comes into this. If you want to improve your comprehension, you should use duolingo. While thinking in spanish, find words that you don't know, if you're out of milk, try to think "we're out of milk" in Spanish. If you find you can't say that, write it down. Then, use wordreference (Google translate fucking sucks) to look it up, and put it into anki. Keep revising shit you put into anki. Buy the phone app too, it's expenive for a phone app, but well worth it. Whenever you have a free moment, practice. Also make sure you know the 1,000 most used words in spanish, you can create almost any conversation with them. I've been learning french for 4 years now, i still don't know the word for shoelace. Because we both are in school systems, put the vocab list's of your textbook of whatever chapter you're doing into anki. That way you can improve your skills while keeping the teacher happy. Lastly, you mentioned you wanted to be able to (quick, what's the verb "to be able to" in spanish :v) talk with native. Then go to italki, find a person learning english at a low level and talk. You will make plenty of mistakes, but so will they. Oh yeah, listen to Spanish radio, for listening, and coffee break spanish.
I'm taking French right now in college. I took 6 years of Spanish so I figured "why not try something new? It can't be much harder than Spanish, right?" I'm getting destroyed by this language. It's like the polar opposite of Spanish (where pretty much every letter is pronounced). I pronounce sounds when I shouldn't, don't pronounce things when I should, use feminine forms when I use masculine.... it's all a mess. Anyone have any good tricks to learning pronunciation, or anything for that matter?
[QUOTE=Se1f_Distruct;37824890]こにちわ! :v: Edit: Shitty pageking. Let's fix that. If anyone wants to use a good textbook to learn 日本語, the Genki textbook is a great one. The only thing is that it's condensed as Campbell's soup. Here's a picture if you want to find a place to get it: [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F_LbF-P91oQ/Ti2o_4DEs9I/AAAAAAAAAD8/tjaTHVJdfUU/s1600/genki1-textbook.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I currently have Genki, but I don't know how to use it.
[QUOTE=Estolle93;37852666]I'm taking French right now in college. I took 6 years of Spanish so I figured "why not try something new? It can't be much harder than Spanish, right?" I'm getting destroyed by this language. It's like the polar opposite of Spanish (where pretty much every letter is pronounced). I pronounce sounds when I shouldn't, don't pronounce things when I should, use feminine forms when I use masculine.... it's all a mess. Anyone have any good tricks to learning pronunciation, or anything for that matter?[/QUOTE] French is a fucking nightmare when i comes to Pronunciation. You've just got to frit your teeth and learn it. I picked up an "intuition" after a long time, after listening to a bunch of french radio. I've got awesome pronunciation. (Got complemented by a native speaker yesterday :D)
[QUOTE=Mr.Twizzle;37824110]Does the Euro. Portuguese language use contractions? Like how English users normally use "I'm" in place of "I am"? Some info'd be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE] yes. "de ele" (of him) = "dele". Infact, it's a horrible mistake to say de ele instead of dele. And shit like that. [url]http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ap%C3%AAndice:Combina%C3%A7%C3%B5es_e_contra%C3%A7%C3%B5es_da_l%C3%ADngua_portuguesa[/url]
[QUOTE=The Aussie;37852458] Day to day, i found myself not knowing verbs that are common to the langauge. I didn't know "to want" untill my third year! yesterday it was the verb to need. Grabbing the essential verbs, is really important. You can creatve variety in texts, and attain a higher mark. A solid understanding of tenses is important too, Past simple, simple future can be mastered in 30 minutes. The finer points do take longer though. If a teacher see's you using a tense she hasn't taught, it's big bonus marks. Subjuctive mood also comes into this. .[/QUOTE] FUCKING, THIS. While doing Swedish myself I found it important to learn the "basic" things like that while when I took proper Japanese classes one of the teachers taught us COMPLETELY random phrases etc. then wondered why some people had trouble catching on.
memrise's first jap covab course teaches you 3 different types of pens in he first 100 words. it also teaches 3 the, after 6 or 10 words teaches you 9, etc. etc. great big mess.
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;37868636]memrise's first jap covab course teaches you 3 different types of pens in he first 100 words. it also teaches 3 the, after 6 or 10 words teaches you 9, etc. etc. great big mess.[/QUOTE] It teaches them in no particular order. Due to that, things tend to get fucked up fast. I'd stick to the 1000 most used if i used memrise. I'd tried the "beginner" vocab set. I stopped because i was learning "le trou normand", which any french person could tell you is a a brandy palette cleanser.
I am a French Canadian. Feel free to ask about the differences between European French (france, Switzerland, belgium and etc) and Canadian French. And yes, we both use the same grammar.
I got a random add on QQ (Chinese IM client that everyone uses) a few days ago. She won't shut up, holy christ. She also keeps pasting the exact same porn gifs and fake portraits of 'her' over and over again. I'm actually pretty sure it's a guy. I'm pretty certain s/he isn't even Chinese seeing as porn is 100% illegal. [t]http://puu.sh/1bdll[/t][t]http://puu.sh/1bdsK[/t] [quote="Roughly Edited Google Translate"] Her: Like it? Her: Look at your pants Her: Simply point Her: Look at your pants Me: Miss, I am a businessman Her: Stand up Her: Take off your pants Her: Very sexy Her: I really like you Her: Take off your pants Her: Stand up and take them off Me: Miss, I'm classy Her: I know, I like you Her: Stand up and take them off! Her: I gave you pictures Her: Stand up Her: Hurry, quickly Her: Hurry Her: Stand up Me: I'm gay Her: Hurry Her: No you're not! Her: Stand up Her: Look at your pants Me: Why Her: I like you Her: Hurry up Her: ???[/quote]
Just remembered that this thread exists, and thought I'd share my shit. I'm learning Spanish where most of the time I don't get the past tenses, all of them. I'm learning Russian where I'm having a horrible time understanding the tenses and pronouns. Shit like "со мне" for example are really annoying to get used to. if anyone has any sources that would help with that shit I would be infinitely grateful. And I'll be starting Japanese courses next Monday, we'll see how that goes. If I can get those three under my belt, I'll be pentalingual.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;37924941]Just remembered that this thread exists, and thought I'd share my shit. I'm learning Spanish where most of the time I don't get the past tenses, all of them. I'm learning Russian where I'm having a horrible time understanding the tenses and pronouns. Shit like "со мне" for example are really annoying to get used to. if anyone has any sources that would help with that shit I would be infinitely grateful. And I'll be starting Japanese courses next Monday, we'll see how that goes. If I can get those three under my belt, I'll be pentalingual.[/QUOTE] I dont think learning 3 at a time works well...
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