Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

[QUOTE=Jagur;41957658]Donkey dicks are so fucking ugly. would never let one touch my AK[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/dqB4Lr5.jpg?1[/img] look at my donkey dick and weep your donkey-dick-less nerd tears.

Mule Cock.

[QUOTE=Skyward;41957843]Mule Cock.[/QUOTE] Ass Penis.

Does anyone have any pics of an AKM/47/74 whatever with a straight magazine? Like a waffle or something like that, I think it would look cool. [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE][IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8513462415_9ebbe6e413_o.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Also Madsen M-50 looks pretty cool.

Do you mean like an uncurved 90 degree angle magazine? [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] If you mean flat sided, the original AK-47 mags, before the AKM was a thing, had flat sides as opposed to waffle like groves in them [img]http://sadefensejournal.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/akmag.jpg[/img] mag on the far left is an original AK-47 magazine.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xCcJOlu.jpg[/IMG] Like this I mean.

[QUOTE=kaine123;41959574]Does anyone have any pics of an AKM/47/74 whatever with a straight magazine? Like a waffle or something like that, I think it would look cool. [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] Also Madsen M-50 looks pretty cool.[/QUOTE] they don't exist, the shape of the 7.62x39 cartridge necessitates the curved magazine. even like 5 round mags and whatnot are curved [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/cucj.jpg[/img] this is the closest one you'll find, it's an export AK chambered in .223, and it looks downright silly

[QUOTE=butre;41959910]they don't exist, the shape of the 7.62x39 cartridge necessitates the curved magazine. even like 5 round mags and whatnot are curved [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/cucj.jpg[/img] this is the closest one you'll find, it's an export AK chambered in .223[/QUOTE] Well, the Saiga's can use fairly straight magazines: [img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/a/a3/Saiga_12k-1.jpg[/img] Although most of them feed at a pretty sharp angle, the .410 short mags are really straight though: [img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/5/54/Saiga_410k.jpg[/img]

Even more ridiculous is a AK in .223 with one of these goofy magwell conversions [img]http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s435/DefinitiveArms/Black%20furn%20K/2012-09-26192036_zpscf915fdd.jpg[/img] Lets it take generic AR mags but god damn, at that point you really ought to buy a dedicated .223 platform.

they all look really goofy anyway, anything with less curve than the 5.45 mags look downright silly [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] and actually the 5.45 mags look pretty silly too

[QUOTE=butre;41959940]they all look really goofy anyway, anything with less curve than the 5.45 mags look downright silly [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] and actually the 5.45 mags look pretty silly too[/QUOTE] Screw that, AK74>AK47

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;41959980]Screw that, AK74>AK47[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/0/03/Romanian-FPK-PSL.jpg[/img] PSL>puny "intermediate caliber" AK [img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/2/2f/Galilarm-05.jpg[/img] But Galils are nice too

[QUOTE][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZQ6tdzf.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I like simple boxy guns like the MAC-10.

[QUOTE=kaine123;41959727][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xCcJOlu.jpg[/IMG] Like this I mean.[/QUOTE] Voila. [t]http://www.zastava-arms.rs/sites/default/files/styles/topimage/public/pm-m77-nato_0.png[/t]

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;41956200]I get it's fiction and all that, but even with "dual stage propulsion" how effective could a .15 caliber round actually be in an anti-materiel role?[/QUOTE] The same way space debris is extremely dangerous to stations [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Space_debris_impact_on_Space_Shuttle_window.jpg[/t] That's what happened to a space shuttle's window after being hit by [I]a fleck of paint[/I]

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41959935]Even more ridiculous is a AK in .223 with one of these goofy magwell conversions [img]http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s435/DefinitiveArms/Black%20furn%20K/2012-09-26192036_zpscf915fdd.jpg[/img] Lets it take generic AR mags but god damn, at that point you really ought to buy a dedicated .223 platform.[/QUOTE] disturbing/hilarious now give it a forward assist

You mean a mallet?

no i mean a legit ar15 forward assist built into the dust cover [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] that somehow misses the selector [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] never mind, now that i think about it this may require a genie

Could put it on the left side.

Seeing as how it's relevant. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAjidZr5D7o[/media] I still think it's kinda neat personally.. to me it just doesn't look [I]THAT[/I] bad.

[QUOTE=kaine123;41960570]I like simple boxy guns like the MAC-10.[/QUOTE] There's something off about that Mac-10, and not just that it doesn't have the folding stock. I like the originals better if this is some more modern version.

[QUOTE=BlackRazor88;41962272]Seeing as how it's relevant. I still think it's kinda neat personally.. to me it just doesn't look [I]THAT[/I] bad.[/QUOTE] Yeah it's neat, and it's pretty darn handy too, but considering the money you would be dropping on the whole system, you're better off just getting a more dedicated platform for the round. Now sit down, you're about to learn why the TB-3 was the best aircraft ever made [img]http://www.communisme-bolchevisme.net/images/war_soviet_tu%20tb3_1931.jpg[/img] Look at this awkward thing. This weird bird could carry 4,400 pounds of obsolete bombs. [img]http://harveyblackauthor.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/red-effect-4-079.png[/img] and like, a bazillion crazy Russian paratroopers [img]http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4788/98504226.jpg[/img] just look at these insane mother fuckers. [URL="http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675039585_paratroopers_paratroopers-parachute-from-plane_parachutes-in-sky"]LOOK AT THEM[/URL] Then Ivan got this full-retard idea [img]http://www.pasionporvolar.com/wp-content/uploads/simulacion-combate/halcones-rojos/bombardeo/tb3-3.jpg[/img] "Hey, lets use this weird as plane as a flying aircraft carrier for long range missions!" [img]http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4005/4681569961_f7e52ee98d_z.jpg[/img] Now believe it or not [img]http://pobeda.elar.ru/images/kutuzov/6-1.jpg[/img] These aircraft could dock with the mothership in flight and refuel if need be. They were actually pretty decent when used against the Romanians and the Germans. The best lay out was a TB-3 carrying a pair of I-16's carrying a pair of 250kg bombs. But then, Ivan got full of himself [img]http://ww2photo.se/tanks/su/ligh/t37/08957%20.jpg[/img] "Hey guys, what if we use the TB-3 to air drop tanks and trucks for our troops"? [img]http://www.combatreform.org/tb3withscoutcars.jpg[/img] "Wowzers that sounds like a great idea, lets just do a trial-" [img]http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/T-37/photo/T_37_water.jpg[/img] Water is a no go, lets try land and flying lo- [img]http://www.combatreform.org/tb1withcardenlloydtanketteairdrop.jpg[/img] "Ok that didn't work how about we try making glider tanks we tow behind the TB-3" [img]http://animationstudiotoronto.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/TB3_0021.jpg[/img] "Thats stupid, you're stupid, off the the siberian gulags with you" [img]http://desertwar.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TB-3-cockpit-and-nose-turret.jpg[/img] The TB-3 was designed in the 30's and was pretty much obsolete by then. It was supposed to be decommissioned in 1939 but saw service in WWII and was [i]really for realsies[/i] decommissioned at the end of the war.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41956414]It's science fiction, it's pure lunacy so it doesn't really have to make sense. Same stupid theory behind mass effect's sand-grain sized projectiles or whatever. [/QUOTE] If you could make the projectile out of a sufficiently dense material it could do a shitload of damage. The perpetrator on an Abrams tank round is only around 30mm, but is accelerated to such an absurd velocity that it has a crapload of penetrating power. And micrometeoroids are a big threat to spacecraft despite being measured in micrometers of length, simply because they are going upwards of 10k m/s Velocity is a much bigger factor when calculating kinetic energy than mass. [editline]e[/editline] For shiggles, a sand grain sized (1mm^3) sized chunk of depleted uranium could get the same kinetic energy as a .50 BMG round if it were accelerated to 3978 m/s [editline]e[/editline] for the record, Im not saying ridiculously subcaliber projectiles are a good idea, just a physically possible one

Speaking of magazines. [img_thumb]http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Banana-Clip-30-Round-Magazine-Gun.jpg[/img_thumb]

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;41963342]If you could make the projectile out of a sufficiently dense material it could do a shitload of damage. The perpetrator on an Abrams tank round is only around 30mm, but is accelerated to such an absurd velocity that it has a crapload of penetrating power. And micrometeoroids are a big threat to spacecraft despite being measured in micrometers of length, simply because they are going upwards of 10k m/s Velocity is a much bigger factor when calculating kinetic energy than mass. [editline]e[/editline] For shiggles, a sand grain sized (1mm^3) sized chunk of depleted uranium could get the same kinetic energy as a .50 BMG round if it were accelerated to 3978 m/s [editline]e[/editline] for the record, Im not saying ridiculously subcaliber projectiles are a good idea, just a physically possible one[/QUOTE] thats why I said it was science fiction lunacy, because a 4mm or a sand-grain-sized projectile would have to be made of a ridiculously tough substance and be accelerated to ridiculous speed to actually do adequate damage.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41963550]thats why I said it was science fiction lunacy, because a 4mm or a sand-grain-sized projectile would have to be made of a ridiculously tough substance and be accelerated to ridiculous speed to actually do adequate damage.[/QUOTE] Depleted Uranium is a pretty readily available tough substance, and batteries with the energy density needed to get multiple 15,000 joule shots off aren't hard to come by, really the only issue would be capacitors. Its hardly "science fiction lunacy"

Good luck getting a railgun down to small arms size with controllable recoil and good enough heat dispersion that doesn't melt the gun or the user within the next 10 years. Rail guns are progressing quickly but they're not really comparable to the ones we see in our favorite scifi media.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41964392]Good luck getting a railgun down to small arms size with controllable recoil and good enough heat dispersion that doesn't melt the gun or the user within the next 10 years. Rail guns are progressing quickly but they're not really comparable to the ones we see in our favorite scifi media.[/QUOTE] I was addressing your statement that a grain sized projectile was lunacy. [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41956414]It's science fiction, it's pure lunacy so it doesn't really have to make sense. Same stupid theory behind mass effect's sand-grain sized projectiles or whatever. [/QUOTE] I never said anything about a practical personnel level railgun.

[QUOTE=Qaus;41961141]no i mean a legit ar15 forward assist built into the dust cover [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] that somehow misses the selector [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] never mind, now that i think about it this may require a genie[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/4/40/USR_011.jpg[/img] Something like that? I don't think you'd really need one due to the nature of the AK's charging handle.

the projectile might be possible but everything else about is really isn't, which that kinda falls back into it being scifi lunacy. oklol