Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

[QUOTE=Terminutter;42734631]Does the nambu also go off when dropped onto a hard surface?[/QUOTE] It goes off when you turn the safety on.

[QUOTE=Terminutter;42734631]Does the nambu also go off when dropped onto a hard surface?[/QUOTE] It goes off when you look at it wrong.

Well, every gun goes off early the first time. It's natural.

Well old guns are typically temperamental anyways. A mosin might go off when you try to decock it.

Speaking of Japanese WWII weapons that utterly suck-... All of them. They were all utter rubbish. But this one in particular. [IMG]http://realitypod.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Arisaka-Type-99-Rifle.jpg[/IMG] Arisaka Type 99. It's so bad, collectors advise against ever firing it if you own one, because it might just fucking blow right the fuck up in your face. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Ultimate revenge on the American pigdogs, I must say.

[QUOTE=Riller;42737533]Speaking of Japanese WWII weapons that utterly suck-... All of them. They were all utter rubbish. But this one in particular. [IMG]http://realitypod.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Arisaka-Type-99-Rifle.jpg[/IMG] [B]Arisaka Type 99. It's so bad, collectors advise against ever firing it if you own one, because it might just fucking blow right the fuck up in your face.[/B][/quote] All Type 99s or just the last ditch rifles?

[QUOTE=TehAgentGuy;42737633]All Type 99s or just the last ditch rifles?[/QUOTE] Japanese metalworks was pretty shit, them using sticks and stones to make late-war receivers wasn't a drastic downgrade.

[QUOTE=TehAgentGuy;42737633]All Type 99s or just the last ditch rifles?[/QUOTE] Late-war ones are definite no-gos if you like your face. General advice I've heard is just to be safe, don't shoot them. Japan is notoriously bad with metal. Just listen to their music.

I think last time we talked about Japanese guns, someone said Nambu's weren't badly designed. They were just so badly made because Japan can't into anything metal. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] I mean just listen to this shit. [video=youtube_share;f5eMUCSZCjc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5eMUCSZCjc[/video]

[QUOTE=Tinter;42737726]I think last time we talked about Japanese guns, someone said Nambu's weren't badly designed. They were just so badly made because Japan can't into anything metal. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] I mean just listen to this shit. [video=youtube_share;f5eMUCSZCjc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5eMUCSZCjc[/video][/QUOTE] When your trigger-bar is exposed so far it can be activated by pressure on the frame of the gun, your design does suck.

Must've been something else. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Maybe it was the type 14?

[QUOTE=Tinter;42737786]Must've been something else. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Maybe it was the type 14?[/QUOTE] Type 14 was utter crap thanks to super-weak round.

[QUOTE=Tinter;42737786]Must've been something else. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Maybe it was the type 14?[/QUOTE] Probably, the Type 14 wasn't actually too bad in terms of design, most of its flaws were more related to production quality, and the fact that 7 and 8 millimeter Nambu are both terrible rounds. Same goes for the Arisaka was well, if you can find one that was built right it's actually one of the better bolt-rifles of the era.

Was reading on miniguns. This is the chinese one [img_thumb]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100805142930/guns/images/f/fd/JiansheQuadMinigun.jpg[/img_thumb] And the russians had this odd looking minigun back in the past: [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100906225853/guns/images/7/75/SlostinGunAA.jpg[/img] [img_thumb]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cA_i8oyUs2M/TnFbfWPM9sI/AAAAAAAAARg/6wXMQ4lSG1A/s1600/SlostinGun.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100906230528/guns/images/c/cc/SlostinGunWheelTripod.jpg[/img_thumb]

[QUOTE=shian;42741536]Was reading on miniguns. This is the chinese one -Chinese M134 clone- And the russians had this odd looking minigun back in the past: -Slostin-[/QUOTE] Oh, Russian rotary designs are quite awesome, actually. Where American ones are all wusses and need an electric engine to rotate them, Russian ones are all self-powered, gas-operated beasts, from [URL="http://i.imgur.com/EsaLUiR.png"]the small 7.62x54r[/URL] ones right up to the [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/GSh-6-30_Hu_Szolnok_1.jpg"]30mm GAU-8 competitors[/URL] mounted on aircraft. Of particular note (of awesomeness) is the [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/GSh623Mavant.jpg"]23mm GSh-6-23[/URL]. This beast had an insane rate of fire of up to [I][B]12.000 rounds per minute[/B][/I]. Sadly, it had some issues with reliability and rounds exploding prematurely (Not going off, [I]exploding[/I]), which destroyed two planes in-flight, so it's no longer in use. Still mounted on aircraft, but without any ammo. Still a damn impressive, if not impractical, piece of mechanical artwork. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] And, of course, you can't [I]quite[/I] talk rotary awesomeness without touching on this baby. [IMG]http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/3/2587/thumb_620x2000/Gatling_Tank_by_PrinzEugn.jpg[/IMG] T249 Vigilante. Big brother of the GAU-8. Think 30mm is big for a gatlin? This one fires 37mm, at 3.000 rounds per minute. Mounted on a limo'd M113 chassis, it was meant to be a mobile AA gun, but lost out to the much, much lamer [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/M247_2.jpg"]twin-40mm Sergeant York[/URL], which in turn got cancelled because it's electronics didn't work if it was raining, and it couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Literally. In drone-tests, they started with a regular target moving in a straight line for radar-aim-testing. It couldn't hit it. They tried a hovering drone. It couldn't hit it. They added two big radar-catching-plates and it still failed. Finally, with four big radar-reflectors and hovering still in the air, Ol' Yorkie managed to score a hit.

[QUOTE=Riller;42741809]Oh, Russian rotary designs are quite awesome, actually. Where American ones are all wusses and need an electric engine to rotate them, Russian ones are all self-powered, gas-operated beasts, from [URL="http://i.imgur.com/EsaLUiR.png"]the small 7.62x54r[/URL] ones right up to the [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/GSh-6-30_Hu_Szolnok_1.jpg"]30mm GAU-8 competitors[/URL] mounted on aircraft. Of particular note (of awesomeness) is the [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/GSh623Mavant.jpg"]23mm GSh-6-23[/URL]. This beast had an insane rate of fire of up to [I][B]12.000 rounds per minute[/B][/I]. Sadly, it had some issues with reliability and rounds exploding prematurely (Not going off, [I]exploding[/I]), which destroyed two planes in-flight, so it's no longer in use. Still mounted on aircraft, but without any ammo. Still a damn impressive, if not impractical, piece of mechanical artwork. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] And, of course, you can't [I]quite[/I] talk rotary awesomeness without touching on this baby. [IMG]http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/3/2587/thumb_620x2000/Gatling_Tank_by_PrinzEugn.jpg[/IMG] T249 Vigilante. Big brother of the GAU-8. Think 30mm is big for a gatlin? This one fires 37mm, at 3.000 rounds per minute. Mounted on a limo'd M113 chassis, it was meant to be a mobile AA gun, but lost out to the much, much lamer [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/M247_2.jpg"]twin-40mm Sergeant York[/URL], which in turn got cancelled because it's electronics didn't work if it was raining, and it couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Literally. In drone-tests, they started with a regular target moving in a straight line for radar-aim-testing. It couldn't hit it. They tried a hovering drone. It couldn't hit it. They added two big radar-catching-plates and it still failed. Finally, with four big radar-reflectors and hovering still in the air, Ol' Yorkie managed to score a hit.[/QUOTE] Fuck, imagine using that against infantry

[QUOTE=download;42742016]Fuck, imagine using that against infantry[/QUOTE] It had an alternate 130 rpm mode to fire on ground targets, since it's magazine only lasted about six seconds on 3.000 rpm, so that would be a waste. Though really, shooting ground-targets with it wouldn't be much different from using a Bradley's chaingun, except slightly bigger round.

I also have a thing for miniguns mounted on humvees. Imagine you get ambushed, you'll just fuck them up with a minigun. And it looks really good too. [img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/LibertyUnites/44A_SF05edited.jpg[/img]

Handheld miniguns for squads should be a thing

[QUOTE=XanaToast.;42744163]Handheld miniguns for squads should be a thing[/QUOTE] The US military was working on one (sort of) for a while, the XM214 "Microgun". [img]http://i.imgur.com/ufZ3Z5Z.jpg[/img] It never reached mass production though, probably because it's really, really impractical. The base gun itself weighed 10kg alone, when you added in the battery, the feed chute, a box of 1000 rounds of ammunition and the tripod to support all that (and you needed the tripod, the recoil was insane), it weighed almost 40kg. And on top of that, with its up to 6000rpm rate of fire, you'd be wasting ammo pretty much, oh yeah and the rechargable battery was only good for around 3000 rounds of continuous fire, so there was no reason to get rid of normal LMGs for it.

the sawed off M60 with ammo belt backpack was just as badass though [t]http://mooremilitaria.com/China%20Lake%20M60%20Set%20up.jpg[/t] [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] maybe they'll reintroduce the infantry portable gatling concept when someone invents proper power armor

[QUOTE=Joazzz;42744357]the sawed off M60 with ammo belt backpack was just as badass though [t]http://mooremilitaria.com/China%20Lake%20M60%20Set%20up.jpg[/t] [/QUOTE] I love stuff like that. Like the protect gear from Jin-Roh (Even though the backpack for that just dispensed extra ammo belts rather than being directly connected to their MG42s). [img]http://i.imgur.com/pRIyHbX.jpg[/img]

Probably the closest: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOfQUbF0ZYw[/media]

[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;42744433]I love stuff like that. Like the protect gear from Jin-Roh (Even though the backpack for that just dispensed extra ammo belts rather than being directly connected to their MG42s). [img]http://i.imgur.com/pRIyHbX.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] What a wanker. [IMG]http://www.keiththompsonart.com/images/full/leicheoberschutze.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE][B][U]LEICHEOBERSCHÜTZE[/U][/B] Many commanders panic as the Allied forces press on to Berlin. Some disappear, others commit suicide, and most don blinders to the future, continuing their tasks regardless of the futility. A select few however begin to pull back from directionless rationalism and pore over the occult texts so commonly passed around among the officer classes. This infusion of unwholesome study coupled with the inventiveness of a strained weapons industry has seen soldiers unable, or unwilling to continue defense of the Fatherland return to the front cinched into obscene contraptions. These mutilated puppets are often left behind during controlled retreats, erupting from piles of corpses amidst the oncoming Allied troops working their way through the wreckage.[/QUOTE] [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pcgDJqL.png[/IMG] Because other link didn't work and edit is broken. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hlhF0qP.jpg[/IMG] Edit still broken, let's try a third time.

[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;42744433]I love stuff like that. Like the protect gear from Jin-Roh (Even though the backpack for that just dispensed extra ammo belts rather than being directly connected to their MG42s). [img]http://i.imgur.com/pRIyHbX.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I loved it when they make space nazis. They just look so damn cool. Like the Helghast. [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090717122737/killzone/images/7/73/Helghast.jpg[/img] But they just had to make you play as the fucking ISA. Also, I remember there is a game with some crazy ass WW2 concepts. Found it [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXMvxlLSReA[/media] Who the hell came up with these ideas.

[QUOTE=XanaToast.;42744163]Handheld miniguns for squads should be a thing[/QUOTE] It's not like you can aim down the sights of a minigun if it's handheld, it would be extremely cumbersome and it's ammo would go in a flash. Any squad GPMG or LMG would out perform it everywhere except for ROF.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42745185]It's not like you can aim down the sights of a minigun if it's handheld, it would be extremely cumbersome and it's ammo would go in a flash. Any squad GPMG or LMG would out perform it everywhere except for ROF.[/QUOTE] And a high ROF isn't always a desirable thing, especially not if you're going for short bursts. Anything over 700 really ain't gonna change much apart from how fast you run dry.

An M1 Garand with a synthetic stock [IMG]http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo49/rhino400/M1Garand001.jpg[/IMG] Wow, that is [I]not[/I] the worst thing I've ever seen

[QUOTE=Mr. Jelly;42745744]An M1 Garand with a synthetic stock [IMG]http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo49/rhino400/M1Garand001.jpg[/IMG] Wow, that is [I]not[/I] the worst thing I've ever seen[/QUOTE] I saw one of those in a pawn shop about a year ago. All the metal on it was completely chromed though, and it didn't look half bad. I just wouldn't pay money for a ruined relic.

Out of curiosity, where'd the name minigun come from?