Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

[QUOTE=Drury;42777496]Some wacky designs from TF2 workshop. Giant bolt-action scoped sniper revolver: [t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/576745934978656833/95508BFE5FFED90E4F133F45128672F0B13849FC/[/t] [/quote] [IMG]http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/f/f0/RevolverRifle-1.jpg/400px-RevolverRifle-1.jpg[/IMG] [quote] Four-barreled [del]flintlock[/del] rake: [img]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/918982608562384281/4830A5FF74533A64DDA7EDFDFDC24CF42FF809F4/[/img] [/quote] [IMG]http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcm9hrG1Xg1rn6z3jo1_500.jpg[/IMG] [quote] If someone provides the real world example of this with three barrels, I'd be mighty grateful. [img]http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/651004031734299355/B1E1251B58E7D3C160146D1ECC6106647247340F/[/img][/QUOTE] [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17m08391rchjzjpg/original.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Revolver-Gun-handgun-Multiple-Cylinder.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Riller;42778441][IMG]http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/f/f0/RevolverRifle-1.jpg/400px-RevolverRifle-1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] It's missing the most ridiculous part [img]http://i.imgur.com/N7WnxMO.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Drury;42778922]It's missing the most ridiculous part [img]http://i.imgur.com/N7WnxMO.png[/img][/QUOTE] Haha, there's no fucking way anyone would make something that stu- [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QHmIsW4.png[/IMG]

Have some 6.5x55 love "Every bullet is like a soft kiss on your shoulder" [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dHxBA8Y.jpg[/IMG] M1 thumb? this will take your goddamned finger clean off edition. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DPB3j0jl.jpg[/IMG] Kg m/40 light machine gun or MG35/36A "the Knorr-Bremse" in German service. Bonus! [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VF17LzEl.jpg[/IMG] Stridsvagn 74

[t]http://i.imgur.com/jECuS.jpg[/t] the only real problem is i've seen concepts for years about this but valve won't ever impliment it [editline]6th November 2013[/editline] also [t]http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Pistols/LeMat%20Revolvers/LEMAT%20CARBINE/lemat2ndmod8.jpg[/t] [t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/576745934978656833/95508BFE5FFED90E4F133F45128672F0B13849FC/[/t] can't you see the resemblance

[QUOTE=Xombi;42779256]Have some 6.5x55 love "Every bullet is like a soft kiss on your shoulder" [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dHxBA8Y.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] Thats a Ljungman and a Hakim, I don't know of Hakims in any caliber besides 8x57 Mauser.

[QUOTE=Xombi;42779256] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DPB3j0jl.jpg[/IMG] Kg m/40 light machine gun or MG35/36A "the Knorr-Bremse" in German service. [/QUOTE] [img_thumb]http://www.conservatoire.bcu.ac.uk/hicimages/7-1_hyam_alto_trombone01.JPG [/img_thumb]

[QUOTE=MAC21500;42779569]Thats a Ljungman and a Hakim, I don't know of Hakims in any caliber besides 8x57 Mauser.[/QUOTE] Thats an Ag m/1942 and a modified version called Ag m/1942B

Pffft, civilian trumpet [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_leoGYAeiH44/TNjkbOOCtaI/AAAAAAAAMAM/aVwvI6soOSc/s640/war_tubas.jpg[/img] War trumpet is at least 10x cooler.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42779751]Pffft, civilian trumpet War trumpet is at least 10x cooler.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jHwsy3x.jpg[/IMG] -WHAT DID YOU SAY?

[QUOTE=Xombi;42779744]Thats an Ag m/1942 and a modified version called Ag m/1942B[/QUOTE] Probably why I was confused, I saw the 1945 AG-42B when I looked up the Ljungman and Hakim.

speaking of Brass instruments, behold, the Gurner Mortar [img]http://mixnmojo.com/galleries/full/full20031105223551.jpg[/img] [img]http://lparchive.org/Armed-and-Dangerous/Images/17-Gurner_mortar.jpg[/img] Unfortunately there aren't any better pictures, it's basically a bomb lobbing trumpet

[QUOTE=XanaToast.;42779867]speaking of Brass instruments, behold, the Gurner Mortar [img]http://mixnmojo.com/galleries/full/full20031105223551.jpg[/img] [img]http://lparchive.org/Armed-and-Dangerous/Images/17-Gurner_mortar.jpg[/img] Unfortunately there aren't any better pictures, it's basically a bomb lobbing trumpet[/QUOTE] That game has sweet weapons.

[QUOTE=Sableye;42779415][t]http://i.imgur.com/jECuS.jpg[/t] the only real problem is i've seen concepts for years about this but valve won't ever impliment it[/QUOTE] Agreed, this has been around for a long while. I could totally see it too, slower movement speed and fire rate and ammo cap maybe but increased damage and a slight explosive radius? Aww yiss. Would wreck in MvM.

[QUOTE=Xombi;42779778][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jHwsy3x.jpg[/IMG] -WHAT DID YOU SAY?[/QUOTE] I heard that cunt you better man up [img]http://www.post-concrete.com/dharmadhatu/pics/ww2headphones.jpg[/img] [editline]6th November 2013[/editline] I brought my crew too you better watch the fuck out [img]http://tricorder.at/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/50fef1fe3813787cdfe6bb9edbc6b0df.jpg[/img] [img]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Acoustic-Czech-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/COMMS/ear/German%201917a.jpg[/img] [img]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/acoustic-3.jpg[/img] [editline]6th November 2013[/editline] (for anyone wondering what these goofy looking devices are, they're acoustic radar.)

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42780444]I heard that cunt you better man up [img]http://www.post-concrete.com/dharmadhatu/pics/ww2headphones.jpg[/img] [editline]6th November 2013[/editline] I brought my crew too you better watch the fuck out [editline]6th November 2013[/editline] [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qyTccqY.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Riller;42770376]It also doesn't really need to be as controllable, though, since you're gonna have a hell of a lot harder time getting back up from a single 7.62 hit than 5.56. Not to say that 5.56 is some pussy round and it's the reason the U.S. haven't won a single war since Korea, but 7.62 just is objectively a hell of a lot more powerful. [editline]6th November 2013[/editline] Now, of course, there are numerous reasons why 7.62 has largely been replaced by 5.56, it is by no means an objectively better all-round round. Ammo weight is a major factor, since you can carry three tiems as much loaded 5.56 as you can 7.62 for the same weight. This gives you a larger potential for shooting a lot (unless you're German and have a G36, in which case you're shit outta luck), and it's a science fact that a single .22lr that hits is worth a hell of a lot more than a whole burst from a GAU-8 that misses.[/QUOTE] Going with this, why hasn't anyone made a SAW that shoots .22lr at 1200rpm? Even if it won't penetrate anything, it's still gonna be a lot of lead flying your way.

[QUOTE=Tinter;42781095]Going with this, why hasn't anyone made a SAW that shoots .22lr at 1200rpm? Even if it won't penetrate anything, it's still gonna be a lot of lead flying your way.[/QUOTE] Range. Penetration. Power. Low internal damage. Feed issues with rimmed cartridges. Accuracy.

[QUOTE=Riller;42781124]Range. Penetration. Power. Low internal damage. Feed issues with rimmed cartridges. Accuracy.[/QUOTE] Shoot many bullet at high rate. Problems are solved. Dispose money here.

[QUOTE=Tinter;42781144]Shoot many bullet at high rate. Problems are solved. Dispose money here.[/QUOTE] You're not going to be firing many bullets at a high rate when you have jams all the fucking time. plus I don't think it's very viable to have a belt fed .22lr. Theres been rifles and even AR uppers that can have full-auto .22lr, it's just that they aren't very desireable [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1uueWols4[/media] They're cool as hell and fun to shoot but don't have any military value.

[QUOTE=Tinter;42781095]Going with this, why hasn't anyone made a SAW that shoots .22lr at 1200rpm? Even if it won't penetrate anything, it's still gonna be a lot of lead flying your way.[/QUOTE] American 180, .22lr 1200rpm, 165, 177, 220, or 275 round detachable pan magazine, not a SAW though. "Despite the relatively low power of the .22 LR round, testing demonstrated that automatic fire could penetrate even concrete and bulletproof vests from cumulative damage. However, the target would have to remain still for an improbable amount of time to allow the cumulative damage to amass in the same area to achieve this." [img]http://031d26d.namesecurehost.com/gunfax/rimfires/am180_ondeck_apart_right.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=MAC21500;42781323]American 180, .22lr 1200rpm, 165, 177, 220, or 275 round detachable pan magazine, not a SAW though. "Despite the relatively low power of the .22 LR round, testing demonstrated that automatic fire could penetrate even concrete and bulletproof vests from cumulative damage. However, the target would have to remain still for an improbable amount of time to allow the cumulative damage to amass in the same area to achieve this." [img]http://031d26d.namesecurehost.com/gunfax/rimfires/am180_ondeck_apart_right.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] that thing in 6.5x25 CBJ would be a pain to come up against.

[QUOTE=Xombi;42781410]that thing in 6.5x25 CBJ would be a pain to come up against.[/QUOTE] I was thinking 7.62x25, 5.7x28 or 4.6x30, but 6.5x25 seems superior.

[QUOTE=MAC21500;42779862]Probably why I was confused, I saw the 1945 AG-42B when I looked up the Ljungman and Hakim.[/QUOTE] It doesn't exactly help that the Hakim was basically a clone of both. And yeah the action on that thing will take your thumb off, the way it's supposed to work is you push the bolt carrier forward until it encases the bolt, at which point the two lock together until you pull it all the way back, where if the safety is disabled it strikes on a nub and springs the bolt forward again. Ow. They were also direct impingement operated, which is kind of interesting. Also, after looking at those tacticool AK's from the previous page, I'm wondering something: if any of you were to redesign the charging handle on an AK rifle, how would you make it and where would you put it?

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;42782439] Also, after looking at those tacticool AK's from the previous page, I'm wondering something: if any of you were to redesign the charging handle on an AK rifle, how would you make it and where would you put it?[/QUOTE] AK's charging handle is perfectly fine where it is. Having the charging handle on the left side or poking out of the gas tube isn't going to give you any real advantage on an already super heavily outdated AK platform. It's kind of like giving a Ford Pento new bucket seats and hoping it performs a little more like a Ferari 599

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3kEuoRo.jpg[/IMG] OCIW [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/q2DIOGn.jpg[/IMG] Intratec Tec-22 [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/G8NN0ae.jpg[/IMG] Grizzly big boar

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;42782439]It doesn't exactly help that the Hakim was basically a clone of both. And yeah the action on that thing will take your thumb off, the way it's supposed to work is you push the bolt carrier forward until it encases the bolt, at which point the two lock together until you pull it all the way back, where if the safety is disabled it strikes on a nub and springs the bolt forward again. Ow. They were also direct impingement operated, which is kind of interesting. Also, after looking at those tacticool AK's from the previous page, I'm wondering something: if any of you were to redesign the charging handle on an AK rifle, how would you make it and where would you put it?[/QUOTE] I really like the L.I.N.C.H. cover that integrates a folding or non-folding FAL charging handle on the left side of the topcover. The AK-12 has a swappable left or right side charging handle. Many modern rifles nowadays have left side charging handles. Right side charging handles are leftover from bolt-actions; since the majority of shooters were/are right handed, it made sense for the dominant hand to work the action, reload a clip (or tube, tube load is on the right side for old style lever actions.)

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42782479]AK's charging handle is perfectly fine where it is. Having the charging handle on the left side or poking out of the gas tube isn't going to give you any real advantage on an already super heavily outdated AK platform. It's kind of like giving a Ford Pento new bucket seats and hoping it performs a little more like a Ferari 599[/QUOTE] I'm aware of the outdatedness of the platform, it's just I'm sort of on a frankengun spree right now and I felt somewhat obligated to do horrible horrible things to a Kalash as part of it. In other words I'm looking for form not function, I know that's not exactly all that common here, but I figured it was worth asking after those "AK-337"s got posted. Plus the idea of tacticooling an AK and leaving the charging handle alone seems really dumb, but I didn't wanna just slap it onto the other side, or bend it Galil style, at least until I've seen if there are other options. So far what I've seen for AK charging handles are the traditional ones, Galil vertical ones, a couple simple left-sided ones, the LINCH, some gas-tube mounted ones, and one Pakistani AK with an AR-15 handle. I am also however inclined to agree with MAC though, I do think that a left-side or centered charging handle does give some practical benefit over the current setup.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42782479]AK's charging handle is perfectly fine where it is. Having the charging handle on the left side or poking out of the gas tube isn't going to give you any real advantage on an already super heavily outdated AK platform. It's kind of like giving a Ford Pento new bucket seats and hoping it performs a little more like a Ferari 599[/QUOTE] Outdated? The operation of firearms hasn't changed much since the AK was conceived, and by that logic, everything is outdated compared to caseless ammunition weapons. Besides, all they keep doing to the M16 is adding rails and ergonomic enhancements, and woop-de-do, gas piston operation. Whats wrong with ergonomically updating the AK series?

[QUOTE=MAC21500;42783431]Outdated? The operation of firearms hasn't changed much since the AK was conceived, and by that logic, everything is outdated compared to caseless ammunition weapons. Besides, all they keep doing to the M16 is adding rails and ergonomic enhancements, and woop-de-do, gas piston operation. Whats wrong with ergonomically updating the AK series?[/QUOTE] Changing a weapon's action is on a whole different level than just a change to ergonomics. It's outdated in the same way the M1911 is, it still works but there are designs out there that can do everything it does better.