Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best
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[QUOTE=QuickShot;43623400][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Uv1w8fx.jpg[/IMG]
Franchi LF57.
Bleugh.[/QUOTE]
Dat wire stock.
Looks like someone tied streamers to the end of the gun and they're blowing in the wind...
if you thought automatic revolvers were bad....
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Superposed_flintlock_pistol_four_shot.jpg/800px-Superposed_flintlock_pistol_four_shot.jpg[/t]
someone worked out how to make semi-automatic flint-locks
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[t]http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/12_shot_rifle_2.jpg[/t]
basically you would load your 4-12 rounds into the riffle, then move the lock forward and fire in sequence, moving the lock back each time
[QUOTE=Sableye;43623796]if you thought automatic revolvers were bad....
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Superposed_flintlock_pistol_four_shot.jpg/800px-Superposed_flintlock_pistol_four_shot.jpg[/t]
someone worked out how to make semi-automatic flint-locks
[editline]21st January 2014[/editline]
[t]http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/12_shot_rifle_2.jpg[/t]
basically you would load your 4-12 rounds into the riffle, then move the lock forward and fire in sequence, moving the lock back each time[/QUOTE]
So it's 16th century Metal Storm?
[QUOTE=QuickShot;43623400][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Uv1w8fx.jpg[/IMG]
Franchi LF57.
Bleugh.[/QUOTE]
Looks a [I]lot[/I] like the Walther MP subs.
[IMG]http://www.imfdb.org/images/5/5e/Walther_mpl_1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.imfdb.org/images/7/71/Walther_mpk_unfolded.jpg[/IMG]
They're not the same, obviously; no grip safety, rounded body, and smaller ejection port; but they look like two peas in a pod.
one of the biggest problems is the rounds tended to just cook off, firing off sequentially
apparently the 12 shot riffle above would even slide the lock back to the next round so all you had to do was cock it and fire
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i love the burn-your-hand grip on that
[QUOTE=QuickShot;43623400][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Uv1w8fx.jpg[/IMG]
Franchi LF57.
Bleugh.[/QUOTE]
Man this looks like art from the Cyberpunk 2020 book.
[img]http://puu.sh/6tsJQ.png[/img]
(bonus: 'FN RAL')
[editline]22nd January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rents;43624131]
[video=youtube;X9FyQNx8oyU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9FyQNx8oyU[/video][/QUOTE]
[img]http://puu.sh/6tsRh.gif[/img]
yeah, I know this isn't the right gun, but it's the first thing that comes to mind when I see a lever-action and hear 'Bad To The Bone' :v:
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;43613533]Yes you're right in saying that there's a big difference between dueling and fighting in combat however a lot of the fencing and fight manuals we have today made no such distinction. Of course, there were dedicated dueling manuals but, just speaking in terms of the famous stuff such as the I.33, the Lichtenauer tradition of German Longsword, Fiore's treatises and etc... they haven't said that they should be primarily used for dueling. George Silver again says that his intense dislike of the 'rapier' supposedly comes from the fact that the weapon was primarily designed for dueling and not war or self-defense. And many of those sword masters base their techniques' effectiveness in their use in combat and war.
And the 'grab the sword with the edge and smash the guy's face with the pommel or quillon' aka the Mordhau was not technically used for beating an armoured man to death, although it does sound more 'awesome' that way. With a good helmet and proper padding and suspension, a strike from a Mordhau would most likely not do anything more than a little dent in the helm. There's no way someone's gonna use that to crush proper plate. The fight manuals, apart from Fiore, even talk about the poleweapon having a so-so chance of incapacitating an armoured man with a strong solid hit to the helm. You wouldn't waste your time fighting in armoured combat primarily with the Mordhau but instead you would use it to stun your opponent for awhile for you to find a proper gap to thrust your sword into. In fact that image you linked shows both the Mordhau and the half-sword thrust. Most combat manuals say anyway that usually, armoured combat ended up in wrestling moves (with or without the sword) so they could execute a thrust into the visor or any other suitable opening.
And yeah, you're not going to use the Mordhau or the 'half sword' with a tulwar or a dao but you can very definitely grip the blade of a longsword (that's where those techniques generally come from anyway) and from what the contemporary sources, it was used fine outside of dueling/'fencing'.
To add to the thread, I've always had a soft spot for the Messer.
[IMG]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2889/10940620176_ce27f094bb.jpg[/IMG]
You're right though, the Hollywood/LOTR style of battles turning into one-on-one dueling between soldiers isn't something that happens on a real battlefield. And true, on a Renaissance era battlefield, you would have very little chance of actually using your sword, hence my previous post saying that the sword by then, was used primarily as a side-arm by most countries' infantry. Of course there were exceptions, such as the famed Spanish Rodeleros who were basically 'sword and larger steel buckler' men.[/QUOTE]
Definitely agreed on all points.
And one thing I find really, really amusing- that mean-looking, two-and-a-half-foot-long, curved sword that makes [URL="http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1349/19/1349191936879.jpg"]katanas look plain wimpy[/URL], they call a Messer. Which, translated into English, is just 'knife'.
Leave it to the Germans to casually call a weapon like that a 'knife'. Makes a Crocodile Dundee-wannabe Bowie knife or Filipino machete look like a toothpick.
[img]http://home.hiwaay.net/~stargate/images/Le%20Mat%20revolver.jpg[/img]
The Le Mat Revolver.
A Civil War Era revolver described as "the assault weapon of the 19th century" and as a fusion between a revolver and a shotgun (its barrel is a shotgun barrel). Originally, all Le Mat revolvers were .40 caliber above 18 gauge. It was fairly fashionable around the time, although its shortcomings were obvious and damning; aside from generally looking ungainly and not elegant, its design was unorthodox and badly executed in its original design, and its caliber wasn't right for the Confederacy handguns (it catered to the Confederates in the war). It abruptly fell out of fashion in the 1870's, although it remained popular until then.
[QUOTE=catbarf;43626425]Definitely agreed on all points.
And one thing I find really, really amusing- that mean-looking, two-and-a-half-foot-long, curved sword that makes [URL="http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1349/19/1349191936879.jpg"]katanas look plain wimpy[/URL], they call a Messer. Which, translated into English, is just 'knife'.
Leave it to the Germans to casually call a weapon like that a 'knife'. Makes a Crocodile Dundee-wannabe Bowie knife or Filipino machete look like a toothpick.[/QUOTE]
Even if you don't translate it's still pretty badass, if you think of it as an English word.
[QUOTE=MeltingData;43627308]Even if you don't translate it's still pretty badass, if you think of it as an English word.[/QUOTE]
"[I]Looks like you got... Messered up.[/I]"
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;43605348]Well while the overuse of wide silly 'dramatic' cuts and spins is true in Modern Hollywood and video games, I wouldn't say outright that the thrust was almost preferred in swordsmanship. Sabers, tulwars, katanas, backswords, broadswords, arming swords, longswords, side-swords/rapiers, falchion, messers, daos and etc... are all suitable and sometimes, are exclusively made for the cut instead of the thrust.
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Lets not forget the importance of Guisarmes and Battle Axes, common weapons designed exclusively to cut and bash <3
On that topic, the epitome of battle axes
[t]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/shinumo/08-24-2010083346PM2.jpg[/t] [t]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_U-Bvhj5X2ro/SsLDgQll80I/AAAAAAAAAFs/TYJ_9IXSZ7k/S660/Clonteevy%2BAxe-head.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;43627587]
On that topic, the epitome of battle axes
[t]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/shinumo/08-24-2010083346PM2.jpg[/t] [t]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_U-Bvhj5X2ro/SsLDgQll80I/AAAAAAAAAFs/TYJ_9IXSZ7k/S660/Clonteevy%2BAxe-head.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Maybe I'm biased because I'm such a nationalist, but I quite like the Dane axe.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Dane_Axe.JPG[/t]
Sleek, curved, slender axe-head mounted on a metre and a half pole.
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[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Lob_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0_X-XII.jpg/274px-Lob_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0_X-XII.jpg[/IMG]
Bearded axes, like most bearded things, are also quite nice. Bit more of a utilitarian thing than the straight-up battle-axes; variations exist with both long, two-handed hafts and shorter ones for one-handed use. Also extremely useful in woodworking, where you'll grip the haft behind the beard and shave the wood.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;43627587]Lets not forget the importance of Guisarmes and Battle Axes, common weapons designed exclusively to cut and bash <3
On that topic, the epitome of battle axes
[t]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/shinumo/08-24-2010083346PM2.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I wouldn't wanna get hit by that. I wonder how long it was with the pole and all, while the cutting edge is like your foot, so hell?
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I sometimes go out hunting with a Merkel 12gauge with one barrel of 9,3x74R. Lovley gun.
So KAC thought it would be fun to show off a really old AR-10 with an equally old night-sight at SHOT:
[img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/650x433xar10-4.jpg.pagespeed.ic.zPfNoakN8e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/495x660xar10-1-495x660.jpg.pagespeed.ic._gMa5jES2A.jpg[/img]
That overly large brick in the background is the battery pack. Also the button to activate the sight is built into the rifle's pistol grip:
[t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ar10-3.jpg[/t]
This sight with the battery weighs in at about 25 pounds, the rifle between 7 and 9 pounds.
Basically similar to the German Vampir sight of WWII, although we had it for the M1 carbine at the very end of WWII as well.
[img]http://www.nightoptics.com/assets/images/german_vampir.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=MAC21500;43637709]Basically similar to the German Vampir sight of WWII, although we had it for the M1 carbine at the very end of WWII as well.
[img]http://www.nightoptics.com/assets/images/german_vampir.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
That looks like it would fit in the fallout universe for some reason.
[QUOTE=Chaoswolf725;43637779]That looks like it would fit in the fallout universe for some reason.[/QUOTE]
Considering Fallout was in the 50s and we were using it on the M1 carbine in Korea, I would agree.
I always thought non-cylindrical suppressors looked really cool. Does anyone have some good pics of that kind of thing?
[QUOTE=kaine123;43638022]I always thought non-cylindrical suppressors looked really cool. Does anyone have some good pics of that kind of thing?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.semperfiarms.com/store/product/suppressors/9Osprey_GUN.jpg[/img]
These new OSS cans are freakin shweet, saw them at SHOT:
[img]http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/supressed-hk-556.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/650x433xHK-SD.jpg.pagespeed.ic.DUCpg_OWXW.jpg[/img]
[img]http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/OSS-Suppressor-Cutaway.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=MAC21500;43637873]Considering Fallout was in the 50s and we were using it on the M1 carbine in Korea, I would agree.[/QUOTE]
fallout is in the 2280s...
the culture is reminisant of the 50s, weapons though evolved quite differently
[QUOTE=MAC21500;43637709]Basically similar to the German Vampir sight of WWII, although we had it for the M1 carbine at the very end of WWII as well.
[img]http://www.nightoptics.com/assets/images/german_vampir.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Technically we called M1 carbines fitted with our version of that sight the M3 Carbine
[img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/bc/M3_carbine.jpg[/img]
[t]http://www.imfdb.org/images/3/3d/M3_Sniperscope.jpg[/t]
Although the soldiers un/fortunate enough to get their hands on them just called it "the abomination".
speaking of futuristic, why is it these "future" concept guns aren't chromed, isnt it a widely held fact that everything in the future is chromed
[t]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/whiteshark357/volq_stingray.jpg[/t]
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[t]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Gixerman1000/Handguns/RugerMkII.jpg[/t]
this by the way looks way better chromed
[QUOTE=Sableye;43638266]fallout is in the 2280s...
the culture is reminisant of the 50s, weapons though evolved quite differently[/QUOTE]
My bad, I'm not a Fallout junkie.
Stylistically correct though.
[QUOTE=Sableye;43638308]speaking of futuristic, why is it these "future" concept guns aren't chromed, isnt it a widely held fact that everything in the future is chromed
[t]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/whiteshark357/volq_stingray.jpg[/t]
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[t]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Gixerman1000/Handguns/RugerMkII.jpg[/t]
this by the way looks way better chromed[/QUOTE]
How is that ruger futuristic? It's just match grade
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