Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

[QUOTE=Riller;44032255]But have I ever told you about how Swedes suck? Because I'm telling ya, them swedes, they really suck. I'm sure I haven't told you that yet![/QUOTE] Please get that devil tongue out of here. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk[/media] Anyhoot, why can't more video games sport obscure and large quantities of guns like Jagged Alliance 2, it's so satisfying having so much choice. "Want a Auto Mag with that Magpul FMG?" But obviously all I needed was my baby-killing Bushmaster.

[QUOTE=Grim2o0o;44032663]Please get that devil tongue out of here. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk[/media] Anyhoot, why can't more video games sport obscure and large quantities of guns like Jagged Alliance 2, it's so satisfying having so much choice. "Want a Auto Mag with that Magpul FMG?" But obviously all I needed was my baby-killing Bushmaster.[/QUOTE] You should try 7.62 High Calibre. Super-buggy spiritual successor to JA2. It's pretty great.

[QUOTE=Grim2o0o;44032663] Anyhoot, why can't more video games sport obscure and large quantities of guns like Jagged Alliance 2, it's so satisfying having so much choice. "Want a Auto Mag with that Magpul FMG?" But obviously all I needed was my baby-killing Bushmaster.[/QUOTE] Look for a game called 7.62 High Calibre. (also there is a mod for Back in Action/Crossfire that makes it much better and also includes a gazzilion guns [url]http://www.moddb.com/mods/ce-mod-jabia[/url]) Also, Rainbow Six 3 Raven Shield has a lot of guns too. [editline]24th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Riller;44032728]You should try 7.62 High Calibre. Super-buggy spiritual successor to JA2. It's pretty great.[/QUOTE] Dangit

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;44032750]Look for a game called 7.62 High Calibre. (also there is a mod for Back in Action/Crossfire that makes it much better and also includes a gazzilion guns [url]http://www.moddb.com/mods/ce-mod-jabia[/url]) Also, Rainbow Six 3 Raven Shield has a lot of guns too. [editline]24th February 2014[/editline] Dangit[/QUOTE] After completing 7.62 more times than I can count, I've started just fucking about; doing base assaults with crazy loadouts. Wipe the rebel base with a squad of nuggeteers, for example :v:

Aw shit, thanks, gonna look that up. [QUOTE=Riller;44033014]After completing 7.62 more times than I can count, I've started just fucking about; doing base assaults with crazy loadouts. Wipe the rebel base with a squad of nuggeteers, for example :v:[/QUOTE] Reminds me of when I went just Spec ops/Night Ops characters and knives only in JA2, along with the usual mortar assaults.

You might also like Silent Storm (it is on Steam).

Already got that, it's pretty fun aside the panzermechs.

"The Sjögren Inertia Shotgun is a 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun designed by the Swedish inventor Carl Axel Theodor Sjögren" [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sj%C3%B6gren_shotgun[/url] Invented by a Swede though. [editline]25th February 2014[/editline] Wow I shouldn't leave tabs open and then not refresh like that. Have something [del]uglier[/del] cooler than a G11 instead. [img]http://www.hkpro.com/image/cawscol.jpg[/img] H&K Close Assault Weapon

One of 920, a Nazi 1911 [img]http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/630x420x11-900x600.jpg.pagespeed.ic.SZ2bXmJB4Z.webp[/img]

[QUOTE=MAC21500;44035223]One of 920, a Nazi 1911 [img]http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/630x420x11-900x600.jpg.pagespeed.ic.SZ2bXmJB4Z.webp[/img][/QUOTE] Love me some Norwegian M1914

[QUOTE=MAC21500;44035223]One of 920, a Nazi 1911[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/720x488x61-900x610.jpg.pagespeed.ic.lEYyZIP5c6.jpg[/IMG] This is disorientating to look at. It's pretty nice though.

I dunno. I have a thing for old Russian guns, like my Tokarev: [thumb]https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31/1795805_10151983991623907_1259169107_o.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1457455_10151962671313907_989579842_n.jpg[/thumb]

[img]http://www.airpowerworld.info/ww1-fighter-planes/ww1-junkers-ci1-fighter.jpg[/img] Early war aviation is so interesting.

[QUOTE=Riller;44032728]You should try 7.62 High Calibre. Super-buggy spiritual successor to JA2. It's pretty great.[/QUOTE] 7.62 indeed owns. Get the Blue Sun mod to make it significantly less broken and add another assload of guns! [img]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/510325982236332512/345305F5BD2B579DE5C79DBD8A83F2B25B445DF8/[/img] [img]http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/523835521492849580/B7802637581A875155D79C65518069FCD0F198A7/[/img] Speaking of: the Garand in 7.62 actually kinda owns in close quarters*ping*

[QUOTE=Riller;44016322][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2jtqphe.png[/IMG] 5.45 Bizon :v:[/QUOTE] Thats no Bizon.

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;44047301]Thats no Bizon.[/QUOTE] Gee, it isn't? Man, thanks for pointing that out, I was [I]way[/I] off!

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44039653][img]http://www.airpowerworld.info/ww1-fighter-planes/ww1-junkers-ci1-fighter.jpg[/img] Early war aviation is so interesting.[/QUOTE] ya espeacially since dogfighting was basically invented from trolling. when the planes first went up they just kinda treated each other with respect, then one time someone pulled out a gun and shot the other pilot and that was the start of it all [editline]25th February 2014[/editline] [quote]Enemy pilots at first simply exchanged waves, or shook their fists at each other. Due to weight restrictions, only small weapons could be carried on board. Intrepid pilots decided to interfere with enemy reconnaissance by improvised means, including throwing bricks, grenades and sometimes rope, which they hoped would entangle the enemy plane's propeller. Pilots quickly began firing hand-held guns at enemy planes, such as pistols and carbines. The first aerial dogfight occurred during the Battle of Cer (15–24 August 1914), when a Serbian aviator encountered an Austro-Hungarian plane while performing a reconnaissance mission over Austro-Hungarian positions. The Austro-Hungarian pilot initially waved while the Serbian pilot reciprocated. The Austro-Hungarian pilot then fired at Serbian aviator Tomić with his revolver.[/quote] trolling, 1914 style [editline]25th February 2014[/editline] [quote]Tomić managed to escape, and, within several weeks, all Serbian and Austro-Hungarian planes were fitted with machine-guns[/quote]

[QUOTE=Sableye;44047521]ya espeacially since dogfighting was basically invented from trolling. when the planes first went up they just kinda treated each other with respect, then one time someone pulled out a gun and shot the other pilot and that was the start of it all trolling, 1914 style [editline]25th February 2014[/editline][/QUOTE] iirc, not long after that first shot was fired, someone decided to bring a rifle with him up in the skies. :v: Speaking of planes, I think it's time for one of my favourites. [IMG]http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/1/2/0356218.jpg[/IMG] Hawker Hurricane. I don't know if it's possible to make this plane even more awe- [IMG]http://www.airpowerworld.info/ww2-fighter-planes/hawker-hurricane-mkiv.jpg[/IMG] Oh yeah, it was. By removing the 7.7mmm guns and adding 4 20mm cannons instead. They also fitted some versions of the Hawker Hurricane with 2 40mm gunpods. [IMG]http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/PJ7.jpg[/IMG] Also, this plane was used by these badasses from Poland. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Piloci_303.jpg[/IMG]

hell yeah, move over Riller it's time for me to go all ~national pride~ now basically the dudes in this photo are from the 303 Polish Fighter Squadron and since it's been a while since I read the books 'bout them I'll just direct y'all to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._303_Polish_Fighter_Squadron"]wikipedia page[/url] tl;dr: they got one of the highest kill rates during the Battle of Britain (from 50 to 60, depends on who you ask :v:), even when compared to the squadrons equipped with the more modern Spitfires; after that they continued to kick ass during the war over Europe, eventually moving on to destroying V-1 sites and appearing in the skies during D-Day if you can hunt Fiedler's [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squadron_303_(book)"]book[/url] about these guys down, you probably should - it's pretty good (Tadeusz Rolski's book is way better, though, but I don't think it's ever been translated to English - it covers the period from the '39 invasion on Poland all the way to the end of the war in '45, and gets way more into detail) bonus Spitfire: [img]http://puu.sh/7aALQ.jpg[/img]

Hawker Tempest V. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Hawker_Tempest_Mk_V_prototype_ExCC.jpg[/img]

[t]http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/1-a-bell-p-63-kingcobra-in-flight-scott-germain.jpg[/t] *cough cannons cough* kingcobra is king cobra for reason, it carried a big fuck-you-cannon aloft for soviet peoples! [t]http://www.operatorchan.org/w/src/139060687937.jpg[/t] [editline]25th February 2014[/editline] [t]http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p39-p63registry/images/p39gun.jpg[/t] i mean look at that sexy combined drive-system and gun [editline]25th February 2014[/editline] Roosevelt's lend and never return policy at work [t]http://ww2.wwarii.com/var/albums/wwii-places/Soviet-Union/P-63A%20King%20Cobra%20-%20Soviet.jpg?m=1277313444[/t] its ok though, we "accidentally" shot up a bunch of these in korea when a couple fighters got lost and spotted what they thought was a north korean airbase, when they were in fact over vladivostok

[QUOTE=Sableye;44049234]Airacobra[/QUOTE] Lol Bell aircraft Airacobra, King Cobra, and Airacomet [t]http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/8/7/2150788.jpg[/t] The Airacomet was sexy, but shit, sadly. Also the fucking Airacuda (the naming personell at Bell should be killed) [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Bell_YFM-1_Airacuda.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=81143&stc=1&d=1253906377[/t] "Twin flexible manned 37mm cannons in the engine nacelles? Why the fuck not" The entire plane was also completely reliant on one generator for all of its power and was hideously unreliable: [quote]The generator, with its own supercharger, was located in the belly of the aircraft. In the event of a failure (and they occurred frequently), the crew was instructed to begin immediate emergency restart procedures as the aircraft basically shut down. When the APU failed, the pilot had [B]"NO fuel pressure, NO vacuum, NO hydraulic pressure, NO gear, NO flaps and NO ENGINES".[/B][/quote] THATS ALRIGHT WE DONT NEED THOSE WHERE WE'RE GOING The XP-77 with a body only a mother could love: It was also made of fucking wood. [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Bell_XP-77.jpg[/t] And finally another good looking but not very good jet, the XP-83 [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/XP83_01.jpg[/t] Interestingly, it was proposed that it be armed with experimental .60 caliber machine guns. It also was sanic before it was cool to go fast: [quote]One unique characteristic was the XP-83's refusal to "slow down" due to its sleek aerodynamic shape and lack of drag brakes; test pilots were forced to fly very long and flat landing approaches.[/quote]

Today I learned about the Benelli CB M2. [img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg98/benelli_cb-m2_1.jpg[/img] Outwardly a normal SMG. However, it fired 65% more bullet per bullet. [img]http://cartridgecollectors.org/cmo/cmo07aprb.jpg[/img] Why aren't cartridges like that ever produced?

[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Bell_YFM-1_Airacuda.jpg[/t] meh it only suffered from the same problems all the other pusher planes had, basically they took engines designed to work in one direction....and used them in the wrong direction, which lead to parts that were never ment to get hot being directly in the exhaust like [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Convair_B-36_Peacemaker.jpg/300px-Convair_B-36_Peacemaker.jpg[/t] this thing was always plagued with problems since it was filled with fragile electronics, backwards engines, dodgey control systems, and weighted down by tons and tons of guns and ammo, but luckally it was big enough to scare the russians into developing their own copy of it instead of moving on to the b-48 and b-52 [editline]26th February 2014[/editline] each engine on the plane had to have its own 100 gallon LUBRICANT tank, and it often was plagued by fouled spark plugs which required quite the time consuming effort to remove all the engines and change out all 56 spark plugs

[QUOTE=fishyfish777;44050836]Today I learned about the Benelli CB M2. [img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg98/benelli_cb-m2_1.jpg[/img] Outwardly a normal SMG. However, it fired 65% more bullet per bullet. [img]http://cartridgecollectors.org/cmo/cmo07aprb.jpg[/img] Why aren't cartridges like that ever produced?[/QUOTE] From Forgotten Weapons: "In theory, caseless ammunition offers a number of advantages over traditional ammunition: less weight, less firearm complexity, higher rate of fire. One of the major detriments is heat, as the traditional cartridge case acts as a heat sink and removes a significant amount of thermal energy form the gun when ejected. Benelli hoped to address that disadvantage with the 9mm AUPO ammunition, by providing a long and thin brass cylinder to absorb heat and then leave the gun with the bullet. However, adding that extra brass also pretty much negated the theoretical advantage of lightweight caseless ammo. In addition, maintaining a way to extract and eject live rounds left the gun no simpler than any other blowback subgun – more complex than many of them, in fact. As a result of these rather self-defeating characteristics, it is not particularly surprising that the CB-M2 found brought significant contracts, and was shelved by Benelli in 1985." No one really wants proprietary ammunition because there is no need for it when it is no better than tradition, commercially produced ammo. If the LSAT is adopted for full scale deployment, we'll see a push for caseless ammo and guns that can use it.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44047521]ya espeacially since dogfighting was basically invented from trolling. when the planes first went up they just kinda treated each other with respect, then one time someone pulled out a gun and shot the other pilot and that was the start of it all [editline]25th February 2014[/editline] trolling, 1914 style [editline]25th February 2014[/editline][/QUOTE] [quote]Enemy pilots at first simply exchanged waves, or shook their fists at each other[/quote] All I can imagine is them doing this [img]http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/meh.ro7939.jpeg[/img] at eachother (can't find the original deal with it) [editline]26th February 2014[/editline] anyway you can't post planes and not post the BF109 [t]http://jazzroc.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/bf109.jpg[/t] [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Messerschmitt_Bf_109E4.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/images/bf109g10white11bg_4.JPG[/t] mmmm that yellow + grey combination

[QUOTE=Araknid;44051197]All I can imagine is them doing this [img]http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/meh.ro7939.jpeg[/img] at eachother (can't find the original deal with it) [/QUOTE] Are you kidding? Its an open cockpit; drop trou, ass over the edge, bombs away. That or slide your canopy back, ass out the window and open fire. Don't freeze your balls off.

[QUOTE=MAC21500;44051186]From Forgotten Weapons: "In theory, caseless ammunition offers a number of advantages over traditional ammunition: less weight, less firearm complexity, higher rate of fire. One of the major detriments is heat, as the traditional cartridge case acts as a heat sink and removes a significant amount of thermal energy form the gun when ejected. Benelli hoped to address that disadvantage with the 9mm AUPO ammunition, by providing a long and thin brass cylinder to absorb heat and then leave the gun with the bullet. However, adding that extra brass also pretty much negated the theoretical advantage of lightweight caseless ammo. In addition, maintaining a way to extract and eject live rounds left the gun no simpler than any other blowback subgun – more complex than many of them, in fact. As a result of these rather self-defeating characteristics, it is not particularly surprising that the CB-M2 found brought significant contracts, and was shelved by Benelli in 1985." No one really wants proprietary ammunition because there is no need for it when it is no better than tradition, commercially produced ammo. If the LSAT is adopted for full scale deployment, we'll see a push for caseless ammo and guns that can use it.[/QUOTE] I dont see how anyone can say that caseless ammo gives a simpler firearm. [img]http://www.hkpro.com/image/g11open.jpg[/img] Fucking kraut magic.

[QUOTE=Araknid;44051197] [img]http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/meh.ro7939.jpeg[/img] [/QUOTE] war thunder general.jpeg

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44051399]I dont see how anyone can say that caseless ammo gives a simpler firearm. [img]http://www.hkpro.com/image/g11open.jpg[/img] Fucking kraut magic.[/QUOTE] In a sense it's a simpler action, no extraction cycle, just cock the firing pin, load the round in, and bang, over and over, that's what gave the G11 a potential fire rate in excess of 2,000 RPM.