Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best
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I also have a fetish for primitive armor.
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An art-deco styled chzech police car circa 1920ish.
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A Mark A Whippet tank in Jap service during the Sino-Jap war.
[img]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/huot11.jpg[/img]
Look at this mofo
[QUOTE=wotman;44686600][img]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/huot11.jpg[/img]
Look at this mofo[/QUOTE]
How'saboutsa this?
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One of the earliest SMGs, a Springfield 1903 converted to fire some oddball .30something cal pistol sized bullet, while still being able to convert back into .30-06 at a moment's notice. Pretty clever, and like many clever ideas, it was also pretty shitty.
[QUOTE=Riller;44686764]How'saboutsa this?
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Highpwr/Curio%20and%20Relic/i-2_B_L.jpg[/IMG]
One of the earliest SMGs, a Springfield 1903 converted to fire some oddball .30something cal pistol sized bullet, while still being able to convert back into .30-06 at a moment's notice. Pretty clever, and like many clever ideas, it was also pretty shitty.[/QUOTE]
If my passing knowledge holds true, then the pedersen device was meant as a means of suppression while you waltzed up to a trench, hence the magazine placement; so you could fire it from around the hip area and reload it quickly, when your fire team reached your destination you would then switch back to your .30-06 and shoot anyone on the retreat or stall any advance while you secured the trench.
The relatively shitty way of transporting magazines for it while under fire as well as how awkward the conversion was led to them being scraped. /wikipedia tier autism.
[QUOTE=snapshot32;44686905]If my passing knowledge holds true, then the pedersen device was meant as a means of suppression while you waltzed up to a trench, hence the magazine placement; so you could fire it from around the hip area and reload it quickly, when your fire team reached your destination you would then switch back to your .30-06 and shoot anyone on the retreat or stall any advance while you secured the trench.
The relatively shitty way of transporting magazines for it while under fire as well as how awkward the conversion was led to them being scraped. /wikipedia tier autism.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much correct, yeah. The problem came in how long it took to convert it back from oddball to .30-06, meaning that by the time you were intended to actually kill dudes, you needed a two minute break to replace your bolt.
In sleeker, sexier WWI designs...
[IMG]http://www.imfdb.org/images/f/fc/M1917enfield.jpg[/IMG]
M1917 "American" Enfield. My favorite bolt action, prolly.
Carcano 91/38 is my personal favourite
[IMG]http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Italian%20Rifles/The%20ITALIAN%20CARCANO%20RIFLE/Model%201938%20Terni%20Bolt%20Action%20Rifle.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=upsideonion;44688491]Carcano 91/38 is my personal favourite
[IMG]http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Italian%20Rifles/The%20ITALIAN%20CARCANO%20RIFLE/Model%201938%20Terni%20Bolt%20Action%20Rifle.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Not sure why, but that Carcano reminds me of a BB gun or childs toy gun; its just so...simple looking.
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"Read warnings before using guns."
As part of the Genevea convention, all firefights must begin with a 15min period after contact is made, to allow both parties to read all availible warnings in the vicinity before the firefight commences.
WW1 boltguns? Okie doke:
[img]http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/8347/9751605_1.jpg?v=8CD1F0C64683ED0[/img]
[QUOTE=wotman;44686600][img]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/huot11.jpg[/img]
Look at this mofo[/QUOTE]
Huwot mate?
[QUOTE=Sharker;44684802]Are you telling me that there's a single person in that photo that [I]doesn't[/I] look goofy?[/QUOTE]
The guy with the BAR looks good to me. Then again it's pretty hard to look bad with a BAR, especially with those old helmets
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Val_Browning_M1918_BAR.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Kebab;44684741]The way that guy is holding his pistol looks so goofy for some reason.[/QUOTE]
[I]ok everyone else has something as big as them or bigger, time to look all badass[/I]
*whips out pistol*
[I]yep im a total badass[/I]
[QUOTE=Sableye;44689595][I]ok everyone else has something as big as them or bigger, time to look all badass[/I]
*whips out pistol*
[I]yep im a total badass[/I][/QUOTE]
Looks more badass than that guy in the back by the tank trying to catch a butterfly...
[QUOTE=shian;44684901]Hopefully you guys can help me, but I remember seeing an old history channel doc, about rifles ( I think it was modern marvels) and it shows this instructor holding a BAR rifle. Like this:
[img]http://www.thortrains.com/getright/BAR%20assault.jpg[/img]
Except it was weirder. He was holding it even lower, at the hip/waistline. And he was shooting from some odd squatting position. Anyone know anything about it?[/QUOTE]
probably late on this, but the idea was that light machine guns like that could lay down a walking wall of fire. remember that gun came about in a time when men still charged across the battlefield in waves. really statistical analysis and breaking down combat tactics didn't come about till the 30s and didn't really stick in the services till after ww2
i mean billy mitchel lost his rank, credibility, and career just for advocating the bomber even though he had demonstrated that the bomber and aircraft in general were far superior to the battleship.
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The guy with the BAR looks good to me. Then again it's pretty hard to look bad with a BAR, especially with those old helmets
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Val_Browning_M1918_BAR.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Fun Fact: That's John Browning's son Val Browning.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;44690435]Fun Fact: That's John Browning's son Val Browning.[/QUOTE]
Yup, Browning made sure that Val's was one of the first US Army units to be issued with BARs.
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The Anti-Tank stance required for the Nagant.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;44688739]Not sure why, but that Carcano reminds me of a BB gun or childs toy gun; its just so...simple looking.[/QUOTE]
I've shot one before, and I can tell you. It really does look that crude in person. Fun to shoot though.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;44690740][IMG]http://www.firearmstalk.com/images/3/9/0/8/3/the-mosin-always-makes-a-good-javelin-1620.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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Needs to have a ring around the bayonet, which is connected to the trigger.
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[I]i'm outta bullets, that won't stop me though![/I]
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[QUOTE=Sableye;44691087][I]i'm outta bullets, that won't stop me though![/I][/QUOTE]
[I]Jacob put your shirt back on![/I]
[I]Nu! *throws rifle into tree in temper tantrum* [/I]
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This picture's been reposted at least 5 times in this thread now. I sense a disturbance in the memes.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;44690848]The Anti-Tank stance required for the Nagant.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/f/fa/Javalin.jpg[/img]
it all makes sense now
[QUOTE=Sableye;44689668]i mean billy mitchel lost his rank, credibility, and career just for advocating the bomber even though he had demonstrated that the bomber and aircraft in general were far superior to the battleship.[/QUOTE]
Billy Mitchell's story always makes me sad. He got a lot of shit from the Army and the Navy, and yet never gave up on promoting aviation as the next warfare revolution.
[QUOTE=T553412;44691992]Billy Mitchell's story always makes me sad. He got a lot of shit from the Army and the Navy, and yet never gave up on promoting aviation as the next warfare revolution.[/QUOTE]
To make it all worse, he was [I]super right![/I] These days, the only use of a navy is to have floating airfields for your fighters. Fighters which only really fight to clear the skies of interceptors. Interceptors meant to stop your bombers. Bombers, which are the real shit-wreckers of warfare.
some cool/weird looking attatchments on an old fashioned AR-10 from [i]The Professionals[/i] circa 1977
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/250px-AR10asA180.jpg[/img]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/400px-Prosa180.jpg[/img]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/400px-Prosa180.4_.jpg[/img]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/400px-Prosa180.3_.jpg[/img]
anybody know what that strange looking drum thing is on the top of the hand guard?
Bonus folding stock ithaca 37. this show features a whole slew of interesting vintage firearms
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/400px-Prosm37.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Riller;44686764]How'saboutsa this?
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Highpwr/Curio%20and%20Relic/i-2_B_L.jpg[/IMG]
One of the earliest SMGs, a Springfield 1903 converted to fire [b]some oddball .30something cal pistol sized bullet,[/b] while still being able to convert back into .30-06 at a moment's notice. Pretty clever, and like many clever ideas, it was also pretty shitty.[/QUOTE]
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/7.65mm_Longue_ATS_1948_Cartridges.png[/t]
The Cartridge was officially designated .30-18 automatic, it was pretty much the same round as these 7.65x20mm Longue, mainly because those were the same casing with a different grain bullet that the French came up with because they liked the Pedersen and wanted to go further with it.
[img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg88/mas38_2.jpg[/img]
But the furthest they went was a non-Euclidean blowback SMG in that caliber.
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[QUOTE=cheesecurls;44692227] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/400px-Prosa180.3_.jpg[/img]
anybody know what that strange looking drum thing is on the top of the hand guard?
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Wasn't it supposed to be imitating an American-180 .22lr magazine?
[img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/6c/78132610.x5R82Yxu.jpg[/img]
Also if that thing under the barrel seriously is a laser sight in the late '70s the drum might be the battery.
Motha fuckin'
[img]https://www.ww2incolor.com/d/363317-1/armot[/img]
Armored trains,
[img]http://www.fototime.com/E51D08F0C4D5C99/orig.jpg[/img]
Bitch,
[img]http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/su/t-34/based_t-34/Sov.T34train.06.JPG[/img]
You don't even know.
[img]http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/armored-trains-the-steel-titans-24864_2.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;44692414]Motha fuckin'
Armored trains,
Bitch,
You don't even know.
[/QUOTE]
The graceful uboats of land. Only with metal seas that can be destroyed easily by a couple of bombs.
[img]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4914/train3o.jpg[/img]
[img]http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/armored-trains-the-steel-titans-24864_3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/2719824757_5fa74d3cf4.jpg[/img]
and of course the Finns had to get in on that noise:
[img]http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/402759-4/P2110866_001[/img]
Tankformers. Roll out.
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This particular Polish train was bombed by Stuka's - then photographed nearly 135 times. The Germans seemed to want to make a particular point of how obselete the polish arsenal was. Despite the fact that they themselves used a number of armored trains right until the end of WW2.
[img]http://pibwl.republika.pl/pp13wrec2b.jpg[/img]
Armoured trains always seemed hellasilly to me. They use tank turrets that could be fitted onto infinitely more useful tanks. As troop transports, sure. Anti-aircraft guns on them are fine there, too. As railway guns, ech, railway guns are silly and all, but fine. If you want silly, oversized artillery, go for it. But the cars with the turrets on them are just dopey as fuck.
why not make a really fast tank that have retractable trainwheels so it can drive infront/behind the train?
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