Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best
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The weird thing about the USSR in terms of it's military production, is that they kept with the basically same designs for guns, armor, apcs...
...but not jet planes. They made a _lot_ of different planes :v:
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Gearing up to fight Magneto are we?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;45049571]The weird thing about the USSR in terms of it's military production, is that they kept with the basically same designs for guns, armor, apcs...
...but not jet planes. They made a _lot_ of different planes :v:[/QUOTE]
Not really, at least not on the armour part. In fact, Soviet armour is way more complicated to get into than Western armour is.
After the T-54, the Soviets decided to make [I]two[/I] tanks for every generation instead of one.
One model, I'll just call it the A-model, that was intended for Soviet usage, and Soviet usage alone. It would be on-par with Western tanks, in some cases even better. The A models were supposed to operate separately in dedicated armoured units. The main examples of A-models are the T-64 and the T-80; both heavy and very capable MBTs for their time. They were tank-killers through-and-through, armoured all to hell and armed to the teeth with powerful main guns and secondary ATGMs, more than enough to make even Leopard crews crap their Hosen.
The B-models, however, were cheaper and more readily mass-produced, to fill out the bulk of the army and operate together with infantry and other, lighter vehicles in combined arms operations. Generally considered less capable than the A-models, these were [I]able[/I] to go head-to-head with heavy Western armour, sure, but they weren't as good on a technical level. Instead, they were meant as a force-multiplier, both in numbers and in firepower against lighter armoured units like IFVs and APCs, supporting infantry more closely on the battlefield. These models include T-55, T-62 and T-72.
In addition to this, the Soviet union had two 'tiers' of export models. While they wouldn't export the T-64 or T-80 to anyone; they gladly supplied anyone with a red flag with 55s, 62s and 72s. Their close allies in the Warsaw pact would get mid-range models of those; not as advanced as the Soviet's own upgraded variants 55s, 62s and 72s, but certainly not poor vehicles either, especially for countries like Czechoslovakia, who were quite handy at upgrading whatever they could get their hands on. Less close allies, like the middle-eastern and African countries, would receive the so-called 'monkey-models', really only visually similar. They would generally be equipped with little to no electronics, no ammunition more advanced than simple HEAT shells and simple steel armour, the tanks in reality being little more than glorified WWII tin cans. These are the ones that were faced in Iraq in 1990, and the ones that for a long time gave the impression of Soviet armoured units being absolute shit, which is not quite the truth.
[QUOTE=Riller;45049856]-Temporary snip due to poor wording, gonna rewrite-[/QUOTE]
Not downplaying it though. Just a proliferation of aircraft which is odd compared to their "Aint Broke Just Make It Again Comrade" ideals
1911s look classy as phuc with diamondback grips
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Really? Looks like a cat vomited on it
[QUOTE=Riller;45046498]The M16 is good enough. Sure, the FN SCAR is a little better, and so is a lot of other weapons [sp]None of which are the 416 or G36[/sp], but none of them are really that much better, and it's safer to stick with the Sweet Sixteen and her flaws while knowing how to deal with them and compensate for them; instead of taking the plunge with a new system that does the exact same (fire 5.56 rounds at targets in the 50-400 yard range one at a time or in short, controlled bursts) that is sure to have teething problems and it's own slew of flaws.[/QUOTE]
I like to lurk around this thread a lot and I've been kinda curious about one thing: what is so bad about the 416 and G36? I can't say I really know a lot about guns so I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, I'm just curious.
[QUOTE=Gatekeeper828;45051870]I like to lurk around this thread a lot and I've been kinda curious about one thing: what is so bad about the 416 and G36? I can't say I really know a lot about guns so I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]
In short? Original model G36's had polymer trunnions that warped from the heat of firing the weapon after a mag or two and ruined the gun's accuracy (to my knowledge this has been remedied in the G36a2 series), and the 416 is just an M4a1 with a G36 gas system, and a magwell that won't take older Pmags, and some people really dislike piston ARs since you're slapping on a bunch of extra parts onto a weapon that was designed very specifically to not have those parts (I believe they've also proven to be more prone to seizing up in cold conditions). Also HK gear is in general very overpriced (although that has quite a lot to do with import and export laws).
[QUOTE=Riller;45047753]Are you literally 5? A regular eight-hour 11 to 7 sleep schedule gives you 16 hours of awake-time a day, so being up 13 hours means it's like, maybe dinner-time, if you're a regular person.[/QUOTE]
i started a 3rd shift job at 3AM and didn't get any sleep, fuck off with your g11 bride
We finally got our 240 bravos swapped out for limas, that shit is pretty nice.
[QUOTE=upsideonion;45050531]1911s look classy as phuc with diamondback grips
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yeah if you're a drug dealer maybe
pair it up with a nickel plated taurus pt92 and a loose short sleeved linen shirt and you've got the look down pat
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[sp]i actually like this pt92 don't tell anyone[/sp]
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ATTENTION: THIS IS NOW A DRUG DEALER GUN POST
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[QUOTE=Sableye;45052056]i started a 3rd shift job at 3AM and didn't get any sleep, fuck off with your g11 bride[/QUOTE]
I thought he said the M16 was his bride, and he was cheating on it with a G11.
So does that mean the G11 PDW was their illegitimate child? And who's the LMG11 in this love triangle? I'm really overthinking this.
[t]http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/85VTAP-1.jpg[/t]
idk have a deringer love-child from taurus
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actually taurus has some weird guns
[t]http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/taurus-1-tau_2_441061mag.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/rat360/taurus2_zps2e602c8c.jpg[/t]
[t]http://www.milesfortis.com/mcump/images/mcump/17/Model77.jpg[/t]
Speaking of weird guns, check out this promo video for those oddball Calicos
[video=youtube;-bxE6MZlxGQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bxE6MZlxGQ#t=211[/video]
They kinda overstate the potential of 9x19mm.
I love the Calico systems. They're so silly but it just SCREAMS 80s "Future Tech".
They also malfunction so much that detail was included on the cutout drawings the company made
[img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg57/calico-cut.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45053704]They also malfunction so much that detail was included on the cutout drawings the company made
[img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg57/calico-cut.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Hence, 80s "Future Tech". Both are in quotes because it's a step backwards and it's technologically unsound. Like the G11.
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They're still really cool
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idk have a deringer love-child from taurus
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that transparent window that shows the internals is pretty neat, i wonder how it'd affect the integrity of the frame though
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I'm so very confused right now
AFGs on non-AR rifles make me sad. Apart from that, I think it's pretty hot. Not as hot as Travis "The Betrayer" Haley's AK, but still pretty hot.
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I'm so very confused right now[/QUOTE]
I like it
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That ambidextrous charging handle ..
Tactical AK done right if you ask me.
Personally for left side charging handles on an AK I'd rather have a Ratchet
[img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/RCS1-660x302.jpg[/img]
That way you don't need to cut holes into/buy a specially made dust cover, and I always liked the look of open gas tubes. Plus you can HK (or I supposed technically AK) slap these.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45057350]Personally for left side charging handles on an AK I'd rather have a Ratchet
[img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/RCS1-660x302.jpg[/img]
That way you don't need to cut holes into/buy a specially made dust cover, and I always liked the look of open gas tubes. Plus you can HK (or I supposed technically AK) slap these.[/QUOTE]
I always thought the AK charging handle was in the wrong place.
LINCH cover is way better; basically gives you a FAL charging handle:
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[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;45058819]Coolest 7,62x25mm Tokarev submachine gun?
The Samopal vzor 26.
[IMG]http://www.militaria.wz.cz/cs/sa-24/sa26maly.jpg[/IMG]
Yes, that [B]is[/B] an integrated stripper clip slot. It lets you load magazines via clips inserted into the rail.
Coolest thing ever. So simple it's hilarious, and even better, both the CETME and UZI were both inspired by it. The UZI stole the bolt design, the CETME the rear sight design.[/QUOTE]
Ew forward-angled grips
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;45058819]Coolest 7,62x25mm Tokarev submachine gun?
The Samopal vzor 26.
[IMG]http://www.militaria.wz.cz/cs/sa-24/sa26maly.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.afg-defense.eu/sub/afg.sk/images/shop-active-images/b_7019.jpg[/IMG]
Yes, that [B]is[/B] an integrated stripper clip slot. It lets you load magazines via clips inserted into the rail.
[IMG]http://www.gunstar.co.uk/img/adphotos/218/645218_-_photo_1_1389730070_img.jpg[/IMG]
Coolest thing ever. So simple it's hilarious, and even better, both the CETME and UZI were both inspired by it. The UZI stole the bolt design, the CETME the rear sight design.[/QUOTE]
styen gun commerad, it iz invention of soviet people's and not that sten
[QUOTE=Schmaaa;45059535]Ew forward-angled grips[/QUOTE]
Suck it
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Donkey dicks make great handrests.
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