Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best
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[QUOTE=zombini;45138333]I don't understand the point of snub noses at all. A shorter barrel not only means less power, it means more blast, more felt recoil and muzzle jump, and less accuracy. I just posted that because it's a literal handcannon.[/QUOTE]
It's meant to be easy to carry and fast to draw. As for why you would use that over a subcompact semi-auto, well that's the same debate as any type of revolver versus a semi-auto equivalent.
Snub noses are the classic boot pistol, they're the backup to your backup, and so they need to be small. So small in fact, that compared to a semi-auto you're actually not losing much ammo capacity, and since snub noses are based on reliable revolver mechanics rather than miniaturized semi-auto mechanics, they break pretty even with their semi-auto counterparts.
I still think that they're almost all ugly bastards, but yadda yadda functionality etc.
[QUOTE=Sitkero;45138158]I don't understand snub noses in such high calibers
Do you hate your wrists[/QUOTE]
at a certain point a shorter barrel can actually result in less recoil because the powder simply doesnt have enough room to burn
hence why a mosin obrez wont actually kick all that much
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45139292]at a certain point a shorter barrel can actually result in less recoil because the powder simply doesnt have enough room to burn
hence why a mosin obrez wont actually kick all that much[/QUOTE]
The only real difference between a rifle cartridge in a 20 inch barrel vs a 10 inch or less barrel is ~100 ft/s, which is very minimal in terms of energy and therefore recoil. There is a MASSIVE difference in the amount of blast, as well as the lack of forward weight to counteract the recoil. A Snubby kicks more than say a 6'' barreled gun in the same caliber because of the lack of forward weigh, as well as overall weight. That's part of why a .50BMG rifle weighs 25-35lbs. As for blast, that increases hearing damage, but is also much scarier to an attacker.
[QUOTE=zombini;45139649] As for blast, that increases hearing damage, but is also much scarier to an attacker.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]Clemenza: It's as cold as they come, impossible to trace. So you don't have to worry about prints, Mike. I put a special tape on the trigger and the butt. Here, try it...
[Michael takes the gun, but can't seem to fire it]
Clemenza: What's the matter, trigger too tight?
[With a loud bang, Michael finally discharges the gun]
Michael: Ow! My ears.
Clemenza: Yeah, I left it noisy. That way it scares any pain-in-the-ass innocent bystanders away. All right, you shot them both, now what do you do?
Michael: Sit down and finish my dinner.
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[QUOTE=zombini;45139649][b]The only real difference between a rifle cartridge in a 20 inch barrel vs a 10 inch or less barrel is ~100 ft/s,[/b] which is very minimal in terms of energy and therefore recoil. There is a MASSIVE difference in the amount of blast, as well as the lack of forward weight to counteract the recoil. A Snubby kicks more than say a 6'' barreled gun in the same caliber because of the lack of forward weigh, as well as overall weight. That's part of why a .50BMG rifle weighs 25-35lbs. As for blast, that increases hearing damage, but is also much scarier to an attacker.[/QUOTE]
Not really; 5.56 loses 200fps from a 20" to a 16" barrel, although velocity lost is caliber dependent as well. 7.62x39 only loses about 50-60fps going from the 20" barrel of the SKS to the 16" barrel of the AK.
Still, the velocity difference from 20" to 10" for a rifle cartridge would be more than 100fps.
5.56 sucks out of anything shorter than 18, by the way. Rifle length master race!
well for something like
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ya it's going to loose a ton of ft/s because the gas is only adding speed to the bullet as long as they are in the barrel and the barrel is properly sealed, so with these snub noses it'll loose a ton of ft/s but the difference between a 20" and a 16" is probably little depending on the cartridge because the gas can only do so much work on the bullet before its expansion is over
[editline]18th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Riller;45143960]5.56 sucks out of anything shorter than 18, by the way. Rifle length master race![/QUOTE]
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tround sub-species super race!
[QUOTE=Riller;45143960]5.56 sucks out of anything shorter than 18, by the way. Rifle length master race![/QUOTE]
5.56 performs adequately out of a 16" and 14.5" barrel, because M193 and M855 are still well enough above the 2700fps mark to fragment effectively inside of 125yds.
However, shorter barrels have been repeatedly proven to be more accurate than longer barrels because they exhibit less flexing during firing; you can shoot 800yds with your 10" barrel AR-15, but you'll be fighting bullet drop.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;45143875]Not really; 5.56 loses 200fps from a 20" to a 16" barrel, although velocity lost is caliber dependent as well. 7.62x39 only loses about 50-60fps going from the 20" barrel of the SKS to the 16" barrel of the AK.
Still, the velocity difference from 20" to 10" for a rifle cartridge would be more than 100fps.[/QUOTE]
The recoil difference would be not as much of a change though. 200ft/s loss with a 5.56 round at 62gr would be a small difference in the amount of recoil. There's also considering that with the shorter barrel, there's less forward weight to counteract the muzzle jump and less overall weight to reduce felt recoil. Either way, a snub barrel might decrease total recoil by a small amount due to more of the energy being wasted, but felt recoil will increase by a very noticeable amount.
[QUOTE=zombini;45145990]The recoil difference would be not as much of a change though. 200ft/s loss with a 5.56 round at 62gr would be a small difference in the amount of recoil. There's also considering that with the shorter barrel, there's less forward weight to counteract the muzzle jump and less overall weight to reduce felt recoil. Either way, a snub barrel might decrease total recoil by a small amount due to more of the energy being wasted, but felt recoil will increase by a very noticeable amount.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I was just discussing velocity :V
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Just the sound at 0:30. TLAMs are pretty cool.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmhuQqPcOtY[/media]
I love the way Cruise Missiles fire.
^
thats a fun way to burn 10 million dollars
unless the other 4 launches were just of different angles, then its only like 4-5 million
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I have no idea what to think of this
[QUOTE=Sitkero;45160817][img]http://38.media.tumblr.com/c6c099458bf49e2dd5def0f11c864dce/tumblr_mwua78uOH91s1adeeo1_1280.jpg[/img]
I have no idea what to think of this[/QUOTE]
Uncontrollable salivation
[QUOTE=Saza;45160853]Uncontrollable salivation[/QUOTE]
it's the carabiner clip that does it for me
[QUOTE=Sitkero;45160817][img]http://38.media.tumblr.com/c6c099458bf49e2dd5def0f11c864dce/tumblr_mwua78uOH91s1adeeo1_1280.jpg[/img]
I have no idea what to think of this[/QUOTE]
Imagine loading this with 40mm buckshot and CC'ing it? Lovely
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can't believe they made a .44 snub nose, its got to kick really bad[/QUOTE]
They're heavy as fuck
[QUOTE=Sitkero;45160817][img]http://38.media.tumblr.com/c6c099458bf49e2dd5def0f11c864dce/tumblr_mwua78uOH91s1adeeo1_1280.jpg[/img]
I have no idea what to think of this[/QUOTE]
Man, I know TF2's aesthetic was being broadened but this isn't even stretching it anymore.
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Is it just me or does this thing's grip look stolen from a revolver
The pump handle thing looks like it's from an mp5k
[QUOTE=Sitkero;45162092][img]https://31.media.tumblr.com/cbf6dc0fc79e3f03f3b3284696126e78/tumblr_n7c4ooxoGC1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg[/img]
Is it just me or does this thing's grip look stolen from a revolver[/QUOTE]
wait a fucking second, is there a fucking light on top of the shotgun ?
Everything about that is so confusing
[QUOTE=Sitkero;45162092]
Is it just me or does this thing's grip look stolen from a revolver[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[editline]19th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=kaine123;45162106]The pump handle thing looks like it's from an mp5k[/QUOTE]
Yes
[editline]19th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=masterchief6;45162316]wait a fucking second, is there a fucking light on top of the shotgun ?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but it is a TLR-2 Streamlight with a laser sight.
Stop
Frommer time
[img]http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/uploads/Deactivated%20Frommer%20Baby%20/frommer_baby_7.jpg[/img]
I just love the look of the baby Frommer Stops, it's the cutest little long-recoil action I've ever seen.
the day C/U weapon thread got shut down by a shotgun
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