[QUOTE=roxter;45508359]I think it's a Model 1894 Karbin with a 17.5'' barrel
[editline]26th July 2014[/editline]
Don't know the length of the bayonet though[/QUOTE]
Memory serving the 1894 was given two bayonets, the 1914 and the 1915, which had overall lengths of 18.1" and 25", so yeah, the bayonet's longer than the barrel, if you count the handle on both.
[QUOTE=Sableye;45510605]trench gun [B]>[/B] trench MACE
[t]http://www.superfunstuff.co.uk/ekmps/shops/superfunstuffc/images/mace-inflatable-2110-p.jpg[/t]
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I've mentioned before that during WW1 the trench gun, known as the "trench sweeper" for its ability to slamfire six rounds and clear trenches (A trained shotgunner can slamfire faster than firing a semi-auto) and so Germany started protesting against it because it was deemed too fuckin' brutal. Although they never lived up to their threats, Germany said that they'd punish soldiers they captured if they found a shotgun on them; one part of me says that they didn't keep to this threat because America said that, in retaliation to this protest, they'd do the same to the German soldiers. Another part of me says that Germany didn't get a chance because any soldier found with a shotgun probably murderised all the Germans before they could have chance to capture them.
Want an example of the badassitude of the Winchester 1897? Alrighty.
A Seargent, name of Fred Lloyd, retook a French village captured by German soldiers. By himself. On the 27th September 1918, he mowed down 30 of the bastards with his trenchy and booted the krauts outta town.
I don't think your mace did that.
[QUOTE=Zakkin;45514116]fixed
I've mentioned before that during WW1 the trench gun, known as the "trench sweeper" for its ability to slamfire six rounds and clear trenches (A trained shotgunner can slamfire faster than firing a semi-auto) and so Germany started protesting against it because it was deemed too fuckin' brutal. Although they never lived up to their threats, Germany said that they'd punish soldiers they captured if they found a shotgun on them; one part of me says that they didn't keep to this threat because America said that, in retaliation to this protest, they'd do the same to the German soldiers. Another part of me says that Germany didn't get a chance because any soldier found with a shotgun probably murderised all the Germans before they could have chance to capture them.
Want an example of the badassitude of the Winchester 1897? Alrighty.
A Seargent, name of Fred Lloyd, retook a French village captured by German soldiers. By himself. On the 27th September 1918, he mowed down 30 of the bastards with his trenchy and booted the krauts outta town.
I don't think your mace did that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wikipedia]The Model 1897 was used by American troops for other purposes in World War I other than a force multiplier. American soldiers who were skilled at trap shooting were armed with these guns and stationed where they could fire at enemy hand grenades in midair.[/QUOTE]
You could also take it apart like this
[img]http://www.milesfortis.com/church/images/shotguns/akwin97apart.JPG[/img]
Easy storage.
It does like to nibble on the ridge of your hand, though.
Oh, and old shotgun shells are pretty much the sexiest ammo
[IMG]http://soldusa.com/rainworx/uploaded/radC6B1313411.JPG[/IMG]
(Second to 7.62x51, but you probably all remember my post on that) (You prolly don't, it was like, five threads ago)
One of them is shiny. It's the one I like.
Speaking of shotguns that come apart into two pieces. I kinda like the Richardson Guerilla Shotgun, just because of the sheer simplicity of it.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/fzMHwtD.jpg[/t]
You stick a 12 gauge shell in the barrel and slide it into the receiver. The "trigger" is actually a safety that prevents the barrel from moving forwards or backwards once it's in place (This is the most complex part of the gun). To fire, you pull the safety trigger, then slam the foregrip back to hit the shell against a stationary firing pin at the back of the receiver. Take barrel back out, rinse and repeat.
So basically it's a pipe gun with a stock?
[QUOTE=Rents;45514690]So basically it's a pipe gun with a stock?[/QUOTE]
Yes. That was made by a company called Richardson Industries, who actually sold them to the public after WW2, for only $7 apiece.
There was also a basic model, which was even more spartan than the advanced model shown above.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/63G7tfk.jpg[/img]
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Really, it's hilarious that some guy saw the simple, homemade pipe guns Filipino rebels were using against the Japanese in WW2 and thought to himself "Yes, if I mass produce these, people will definitely buy them" when they're just worse than every other shotgun available on the market, and not that much cheaper than a second-hand pump-action.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;45514621]Speaking of shotguns that come apart into two pieces. I kinda like the Richardson Guerilla Shotgun, just because of the sheer simplicity of it.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/fzMHwtD.jpg[/t]
You stick a 12 gauge shell in the barrel and slide it into the receiver. The "trigger" is actually a safety that prevents the barrel from moving forwards or backwards once it's in place (This is the most complex part of the gun). To fire, you pull the safety trigger, then slam the foregrip back to hit the shell against a stationary firing pin at the back of the receiver. Take barrel back out, rinse and repeat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Zakkin;45514116]fixed
I've mentioned before that during WW1 the trench gun, known as the "trench sweeper" for its ability to slamfire six rounds and clear trenches (A trained shotgunner can slamfire faster than firing a semi-auto) and so Germany started protesting against it because it was deemed too fuckin' brutal. Although they never lived up to their threats, Germany said that they'd punish soldiers they captured if they found a shotgun on them; one part of me says that they didn't keep to this threat because America said that, in retaliation to this protest, they'd do the same to the German soldiers. Another part of me says that Germany didn't get a chance because any soldier found with a shotgun probably murderised all the Germans before they could have chance to capture them.
Want an example of the badassitude of the Winchester 1897? Alrighty.
A Seargent, name of Fred Lloyd, retook a French village captured by German soldiers. By himself. On the 27th September 1918, he mowed down 30 of the bastards with his trenchy and booted the krauts outta town.
I don't think your mace did that.[/QUOTE]
I liked how the Germans bitched about the American's shotgun being too brutal, meanwhile they were busy introducing mustard gas to the world
[IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mg_9206-tfb.jpg[/IMG]
M3 Grease Gun. What happens when Americans look at the Sten and go "Man, that shit too complicated!"
Hey, at least on the original models the charging handle wasn't just a knob jammed into the side of the bolt.
Although on the later ones it did kinda turn into just a hole in the side of it.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45516174]Hey, at least on the original models the charging handle wasn't just a knob jammed into the side of the bolt.
Although on the later ones it did kinda turn into just a hole in the side of it.[/QUOTE]
The dust cover is the safety, the trigger is folded tinfoil, the stock is a coathanger and the charging handle is a hole.
[QUOTE=Riller;45516268]The dust cover is the safety, the trigger is folded tinfoil, the stock is a coathanger and the charging handle is a hole.[/QUOTE]
I'll take a coathanger and a pistol grip over a knife handle.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Pistolet_maszynowy_STEN,_Muzeum_Or%C5%82a_Bia%C5%82ego.jpg[/t]
And at least the grease gun actually has a dust cover.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45516363]I'll take a coathanger and a pistol grip over a knife handle.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Pistolet_maszynowy_STEN,_Muzeum_Or%C5%82a_Bia%C5%82ego.jpg[/t]
And at least the grease gun actually has a dust cover.[/QUOTE]
Are you actually supposed to hold a Sten by the magazine? I thought that would lead to feading issues
[t]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2930/13989254901_4e7a68b309_k.jpg[/t]
Probably the sexiest AK-pattern gun out there. Yes it has rails, but they aren't overdone and I am eternally in love with it.
[QUOTE=seba079;45516805][t]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2930/13989254901_4e7a68b309_k.jpg[/t]
Probably the sexiest AK-pattern gun out there. Yes it has rails, but they aren't overdone and I am eternally in love with it.[/QUOTE]
You'd think so, but you'd be wrong.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/WFgzevm.jpg[/t]
I'm not a fan of that bottom-only Vepr-style forend; it looks kinda silly imo.
And just 'cause we're doing silly full caliber AKs...
[IMG]https://www.gunandgame.com/attachments/psl_1-jpg.57268/[/IMG]
The PSL. Which is not an SVD, nor is it related to the SVD. It's just a big ol' AK.
[QUOTE=Ermac20;45516733]Are you actually supposed to hold a Sten by the magazine? I thought that would lead to feading issues[/QUOTE]
You gotta hold it like Churchill here
[IMG]http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m67hv8HP051rwjpnyo1_500.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/h0xbIyx.jpg[/IMG]
Can anyone identify this gun?
[QUOTE=kaine123;45521647][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/h0xbIyx.jpg[/IMG]
Can anyone identify this gun?[/QUOTE]
Reverse image search gives "Centurion Arms .308 CMR Rail"
It sure as hell ain't that.
It sure as hell is a smith cavalry carbine, though.
[t]http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/1601164713/8851462/1d2f1365e86794f6029982046fce2932.jpg[/t]
[t]http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2011/12/06/244876_03_smith_carbine_cavalry_model_52_640.jpg[/t][t]http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii140/roomie21/smith011_zpsc237c15d.jpg[/t]
[t]http://www.collectorssource.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/m/smith_carbine_an1863.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=kaine123;45521647][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/h0xbIyx.jpg[/IMG]
Can anyone identify this gun?[/QUOTE]
Well, let's start by figuring what we know from looking at it.
-Break action, single shot, centerfire or percussion cap
-Octagon barrel, most likely American
-External hammer, though common for it's time
-Hoop and ring means it's probably a cavalry weapon
Now, by ignoring all this and using Google reverse image search instead, we can deduct that it is, in fact, a Smith Cavalry Carbine.
[IMG]http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/1601164713/8851462/1d2f1365e86794f6029982046fce2932.jpg[/IMG]
[editline]28th July 2014[/editline]
...God damn it, Zakkin.
[QUOTE=Ermac20;45516733]Are you actually supposed to hold a Sten by the magazine? I thought that would lead to feading issues[/QUOTE]
It would, so you were supposed to hold it either behind or infront of the magazine well, though infront required you to wear something to subside burning your hand.
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