Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

[QUOTE=kaine123;45930057][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RBIyU9G.jpg[/IMG] The Macuahuitl, used by the Aztecs. A bit like a cross between a sword, a club, an axe, and a cricket bat. Pretty brutal weapon if you ask me.[/QUOTE] The Aztecs used those against Spanish conquistadors. They could cut a horses head clean off with one of those. See those black bits? Obsidian glass. I wish I could have a little knife/dagger made of obsidian.

[QUOTE=TAU!;45930785]The Aztecs used those against Spanish conquistadors. They could cut a horses head clean off with one of those. See those black bits? Obsidian glass. I wish I could have a little knife/dagger made of obsidian.[/QUOTE] A knife made of obsidian would be extremely brittle I think.

[QUOTE=roxter;45931019]A knife made of obsidian would be extremely brittle I think.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't have to be thin though. A thick obsidian blade would kick ass.

[QUOTE=TAU!;45931043]It wouldn't have to be thin though. A thick obsidian blade would kick ass.[/QUOTE] It would break very easily. The reason why they only used those little squares lining the board like that is because an entire blade made in its place wouldn't last very long at all.

[QUOTE=Zakkin;45928334]Gladius' are cool, but I like something I can play with in my spare time. [t]http://www.menseffects.com/v/vspfiles/photos/BFY00005A-2.jpg[/t][t]http://goinggear.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/m/bm_42101.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.knifeworks.com/images/33760.jpg[/t] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Opening_and_closing_a_Balisong_aka_Butterfly_Knife.gif[/img][/QUOTE] I hate that these are illegal in Canada

Stumach flu made me draw a Hetzer out of boredom.. (THERES A KRIEG INSIDE OF ME OH LORD) [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/HpUYEw.png[/IMG] <3

[QUOTE=opaali;45900916]Looks like a mauser that had sex with the 1870's and 2000's[/QUOTE] Speaking of mausers... [t]http://i.imgur.com/dgwLVbl.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;45931172]I hate that these are illegal in Canada[/QUOTE] Illegal in Britain, too. Hence why I have this: [t]http://www.bladeplay.com/imgs/butterfly-knives/2-through-15/bp-black-wg835-back.jpg[/t][t]http://www.bladeplay.com/imgs/butterfly-knives/2-through-15/bp-black-wg835.jpg[/t] It's a trainer knife, which is legal. It doubles as a radical-looking bottle-opener.

[QUOTE=Zakkin;45931605]Illegal in Britain, too. Hence why I have this: [t]http://www.bladeplay.com/imgs/butterfly-knives/2-through-15/bp-black-wg835-back.jpg[/t][t]http://www.bladeplay.com/imgs/butterfly-knives/2-through-15/bp-black-wg835.jpg[/t] It's a trainer knife, which is legal. It doubles as a radical-looking bottle-opener.[/QUOTE] Trainer balisongs are banned here is Oz.

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Nagmachon01.jpg[/IMG] The Nagmachon is a really weird looking thing.

[QUOTE=Texas_Ranger;45932166][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Nagmachon01.jpg[/IMG] The Nagmachon is a really weird looking thing.[/QUOTE] Looks like the old German radar/sea fort at Blåvand in Denmark on threads. [IMG]http://www.fotoagent.dk/single_picture/10126/25/large/IMG_0450.jpg[/IMG] I used to go there all the time as a kid.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6N2IJccZy4[/media]

[QUOTE=Sunkite;45925063]It might be larger, but you can move the longsword around way faster than a claymore. Finesse, speed and accuracy is the difference between you being stabbed, and your opponent being stabbed. Gotta give it to you though. Claymores are cool.[/QUOTE] screw finesse speed and accuracy when you can deal (or have) massive amounts of blunt trauma

[QUOTE=Trainbike;45931125]It would break very easily. The reason why they only used those little squares lining the board like that is because an entire blade made in its place wouldn't last very long at all.[/QUOTE] My dreams of having a stupidly sharp blade are crushed. Well, anyone else here like bucklers? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSMGadIpEoQ[/media]

You can buy ceramic knives

[QUOTE=StickyWicket;45930086]Discreet weaponry is a relatively new concept in history, usually warriors would be proud to boast their weapons, sporting them for all to see. In fact, let me show you some of these various anglo-saxon fittings and other ornamental wargear. They were uncovered in the Staffordshire hoard. If anyone knows of a culture which produced more beautiful jewelry than this, I would like them to tell me. * pics * You can see where the art styles of paganism's bestial nature and Christianity's "God's word is gold" meet. Clearly, these pieces were made with the philosophy of magnificence over comeliness. Images from [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/57974496@N06/]staffordshirehoard[/url], on Flickr. As a testimony to their hypnotic qualities, I had to force myself from posting all the findings here. I encourage you to look at the rest.[/QUOTE] absolutely gorgeous damn i would look good draped in this shit

[QUOTE=TAU!;45930785]The Aztecs used those against Spanish conquistadors. [B]They could cut a horses head clean off with one of those.[/B] See those black bits? Obsidian glass. I wish I could have a little knife/dagger made of obsidian.[/QUOTE] Yea I am going to have to call bullshit on that man, do you know how much muscle and tendon is in a horse's damn neck? Maybe once it is lying on the ground and after a few hacks at it, but to chop off a horses head in a clean swing? A normal fucking sword couldn't do that man and that is under prime conditions. Like even trying to chop off a human head takes a lot of strength, skill and a VERY sharp blade. And that is in a situation where the human isn't even moving, let a lone a horse.

[QUOTE=1chains1;45934742]Yea I am going to have to call bullshit on that man, do you know how much muscle and tendon is in a horse's damn neck? Maybe once it is lying on the ground and after a few hacks at it, but to chop off a horses head in a clean swing? A normal fucking sword couldn't do that man and that is under prime conditions. Like even trying to chop off a human head takes a lot of strength, skill and a VERY sharp blade. And that is in a situation where the human isn't even moving, let a lone a horse.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.spike.com/video-clips/2nv66c/deadliest-warrior-chopping-limbs-with-the-aztecs[/url]

[QUOTE=Recurracy;45932551]screw finesse speed and accuracy when you can deal (or have) massive amounts of blunt trauma[/QUOTE] It's gonna be really difficult getting a hit in, if you swing it around without finesse or technique like a gorilla :v: Again, as it was pointed out, they're almost the same sizes. Believe me, a longsword will fuck you up just as much as a claymore. Enough words, more tank. [video=youtube;26cSk60Aj3Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26cSk60Aj3Y[/video]

[QUOTE=1chains1;45934742]Yea I am going to have to call bullshit on that man, do you know how much muscle and tendon is in a horse's damn neck? Maybe once it is lying on the ground and after a few hacks at it, but to chop off a horses head in a clean swing? A normal fucking sword couldn't do that man and that is under prime conditions. Like even trying to chop off a human head takes a lot of strength, skill and a VERY sharp blade. And that is in a situation where the human isn't even moving, let a lone a horse.[/QUOTE] Obsidian, however brittle, is extremely sharp. With enough force behind a maquahuitl being swung, it could do a LOT of damage. The same could be said for any sort of longsword/claymore, so long as the person wielding it is sufficiently trained with it. [quote]The maquahuitl was sharp enough to decapitate a man.[12] According to an account by Bernal Díaz del Castillo, one of Hernán Cortés’s conquistadors, it could even decapitate a horse: Pedro de Morón was a very good horseman, and as he charged with three other horsemen into the ranks of the enemy the Indians seized hold of his lance and he was not able to drag it away, and others gave him cuts with their broadswords, and wounded him badly, and then they slashed at the mare, and cut her head off at the neck so that it hung by the skin, and she fell dead.[14] Another account by a companion of Cortés known as The Anonymous Conqueror tells a similar story of its effectiveness: They have swords of this kind — of wood made like a two-handed sword, but with the hilt not so long; about three fingers in breadth. The edges are grooved, and in the grooves they insert stone knifes, that cut like a Toledo blade. I saw one day an Indian fighting with a mounted man, and the Indian gave the horse of his antagonist such a blow in the breast that he opened it to the entrails, and it fell dead on the spot. And the same day I saw another Indian give another horse a blow in the neck, that stretched it dead at his feat. —"Offensive and Defensive Arms", page 23[15] Another account by Francisco de Aguilar read: They used ... cudgels and swords and a great many bows and arrows ... One Indian at a single stroke cut open the whole neck of Cristóbal de Olid’s horse, killing the horse. The Indian on the other side slashed at the second horseman and the blow cut through the horse’s pastern, whereupon this horse also fell dead. As soon as this sentry gave the alarm, they all ran out with their weapons to cut us off, following us with great fury, shooting arrows, spears and stones, and wounding us with their swords. Here many Spaniards fell, some dead and some wounded, and others without any injury who fainted away from fright.[16][/quote]

[QUOTE=Griffster26;45934924][url]http://www.spike.com/video-clips/2nv66c/deadliest-warrior-chopping-limbs-with-the-aztecs[/url][/QUOTE] On an unrelated note, I absolutely hate Deadliest Warrior anyways, here, have a funky-looking pistol [t]http://i.imgur.com/1Zz2gIM.jpg[/t] [URL="http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/62/lid/1589"]http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/62/lid/1589[/URL] [URL="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/handmade-auto-revolver-at-ria/"]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/handmade-auto-revolver-at-ria/[/URL]

[video=youtube;__K2BzxR2BY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__K2BzxR2BY[/video] Am I the only one who thinks that the sherman was one of the best tanks of the war?

[QUOTE=mecaguy03;45936192] Am I the only one who thinks that the sherman was one of the best tanks of the war?[/QUOTE] Actually, yes.

[QUOTE=mecaguy03;45936192][video=youtube;__K2BzxR2BY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__K2BzxR2BY[/video] Am I the only one who thinks that the sherman was one of the best tanks of the war?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=asteroidrules;45884719]Here, since I haven't posted in a while and have nothing valuable to contribute to the current topic of discussion, have [url=http://i.imgur.com/bEuTSfY.png]a polandball about tanks.[/url] I laughed way too hard at Russia's line when it sees Nazi Germany.[/QUOTE] Just gonna bump this up here. Although actually the Sherman wasn't really as bad as people made it out to be. The fire problems were greatly exaggerated in terms of their frequency, although in terms of armor and guns it was a bit lacking in the later stages of the war.

How is that even a viable argument for what I said? Yes of course they can chop, I merely called bullshit on it being able to lop a horses head clean off. Here is a little test for you, go find an entire raw chicken at a store and do one really hard overhead on it with a butcher knife. Don't buy it though that is a waste of money, but my point is that if you did try that you would not cut through it entirely in one chop. Yet you're telling me something that is 90% wood could lop off clean something 5x as thick with muscle that is alive and tensed? I am sure it can do plenty of damage and even take off a person's limb in the right situation, but lobbing a horse's head clean off is pure bullshit. Your source is while a good horsemen of the time it is still down to words, I am sure it could cut a huge nasty gash in a horse's neck, as your source stated but clean decapitation of a moving horse with one of those sounds practically impossible.

The engine on the sherman wasnt that flammable compared to especially the large german tanks. Russian engines would catch fire just as much, but usually when there is talk of 50 foot flames its the ammunition that was ignited by spalling from when the tank gets hit, and russian tanks tended to spall more than american tanks. Basically the sherman was never especially fire prone. The only reason that myth came about was because sometimes crewmen would stuff extra ammunition anywhere it would fit in the tank, which meant it was improperly stowed and so would ignite easily when the tank was hit. This problem was solved once the practice was stopped. Mainly the thing that I think makes the sherman so good is that it was not designed for tank to tank combat, because most of the time it was not shooting at tanks. The gun could fire better HE shells and so it was more effective versus infantry than either the T-34 or the pzIV. It was also very mechanically reliable, and it was really easy to produce. It also was one of the first tanks to have a gyroscopically stabilized gun.

[QUOTE=1chains1;45936328]How is that even a viable argument for what I said? Yes of course they can chop, I merely called bullshit on it being able to lop a horses head clean off. Here is a little test for you, go find an entire raw chicken at a store and do one really hard overhead on it with a butcher knife. Don't buy it though that is a waste of money, but my point is that if you did try that you would not cut through it entirely in one chop. Yet you're telling me something that is 90% wood could lop off clean something 5x as thick with muscle that is alive and tensed? I am sure it can do plenty of damage and even take off a person's limb in the right situation, but lobbing a horse's head clean off is pure bullshit. Your source is while a good horsemen of the time it is still down to words, I am sure it could cut a huge nasty gash in a horse's neck, as your source stated but clean decapitation of a moving horse with one of those sounds practically impossible.[/QUOTE] 90% of an axe is the wooden haft They weren't just primitive billy clubs with some slightly sharp shit crudely fastened to them, they were professionally crafted weapons, the one posted earlier is a really bad example of a Macuahuitl Odds are that no more genuine examples exist, and I can't find a decent example right now, but there is a nice illustration of the last one in a museum before the museum burnt down [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Macuahuitl.jpg[/IMG] Hardwoods have a tendency to be heavy, and obsidian is one of the sharpest materials on the planet, I wouldn't totally discount cutting through a horse neck with that just because it's '90% wood'

The Sherman also saw some interesting variations [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/DD-Tank.jpg[/img] This for example was the DD, or Duplex Drive model, designed to be dropped in the water and driven ashore for beach landings. While they're most remembered for near complete losses at Omaha beach, they were successfully deployed at four other landings that day. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/M4a4_flail_cfb_borden_1.JPG[/img] Then there was the "crab" which was a flail tank design. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Sherman_crab_flail_tank.jpg[/img] Basically as it moves forward it bashes those chains into the ground to set off landmines at a safe distance. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/ShermanFirefly.jpg[/img] But probably the best of the bunch was the Firefly, this was a British variant outfitted with an Ordnance Quick-Firing 17-pounder 76.2mm anti-tank gun, one of the most powerful guns used in the war. This was most notable as it fixed one of the Sherman's biggest weaknesses: it's inability to take on heavy tanks like the Tiger and Panther, albeit at the cost of more cramped spaces, reduced rate of fire, a much longer barrel, and an excessive muzzle blast that was described as follows: [quote]so brilliant that both gunner and commander need to blink at the moment of firing. Otherwise they will be blinded for so long that they will not see the shot hit the target. The muzzle flash spurts out so much flame that, after a shot or two, the hedge or undergrowth in front of the tank is likely to start burning.[/quote] The Firefly would also on occasion overlap with another British variant called the Tulip, which was fitted with sets of RP-3 rockets. While they had their flaws, it's hard to not have some appreciation for the Shermans (Shermen?).

The E8s 76mm gun interestingly enough had superior AP performance to the russian 85mm gun, which fought tigers and panthers without much difficulty. The sherman firefly was good even against Tiger IIs. Tigers and panthers were also vulnerable to even the 75mm gun on the regular sherman.

Fun fact: Firefly crews would paint the ends of the barrels to make it look more like a regular Sherman instead of a tank-killer.