Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

There's some photos going around of the bloody aftermath of that attack. One got pretty much got reduced to just a spinal cord from the nose down. If you really are so morbidly curious, I think they're up on the novorussia twitter account.

[QUOTE=Binladen34;46654200][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JzFGLcj.jpg[/IMG] reddit has some awesome gun designs.[/QUOTE] well shit, this isn't going to help when cops already are paranoid about not-guns that look like guns [editline]6th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TacticalBacon;46652147]Reminds me of the "AR15"s used in the original Dawn of the Dead. [img]http://i.imgur.com/Pj1UEA8.jpg[/img] See how the "magazine" is actually hollow and there's another, smaller magazine inside it? Yep, someone actually went and made a .22lr AR15 clone complete with faux 20-round STANAG magazine so it looks like a real AR15 from most angles![/QUOTE] but wouldn't .22lr be like really effective in a zombie apocalypse being the most available caliber of bullet out there

[QUOTE=Sableye;46655462] but wouldn't .22lr be like really effective in a zombie apocalypse being the most available caliber of bullet out there[/QUOTE] Probably not. Zombies are usually less fragile than people, and .22lr is weak. WEAK!

There's a disappointing lack of .357 on this page. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/larryf1952/Guns%20and%20Targets/ColtPython4-1.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Sableye;46655462]well shit, this isn't going to help when cops already are paranoid about not-guns that look like guns [/QUOTE] This isn't a new thing, there have been guns like this for a long time. That one is actually a famous example.

[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/P229_blk.jpg[/t] did someone say .357?

So, if I'm lucky. I'll get my very own practice sword for HEMA in the coming week. :dance: Peasants shall be stabbed in the most chivalrous of ways.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46655979]There's a disappointing lack of .357 on this page. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/larryf1952/Guns%20and%20Targets/ColtPython4-1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] There's a disappointing lack of Colt Pythons in the world (seriously they're surprisingly rare) and speaking of Pythons [img]http://33.media.tumblr.com/5f31ed63a3301915bb3969201d3689c8/tumblr_ncmxyi1bws1s2g369o1_500.gif[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/dk2MJ/8a2d4d1e3d.gif[/img] [img]http://31.media.tumblr.com/98f1923c589ce4bf88907ac027b900e8/tumblr_ncmxyi1bws1s2g369o9_500.gif[/img] [img]http://38.media.tumblr.com/19c8ff3565029cafb9ed69aa3a5d65bf/tumblr_ncmxyi1bws1s2g369o10_500.gif[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/dk31V/620096c7ae.gif[/img] the one Ridley Scott movie nobody remembers! I'm mentioning it here cause the main character packs a Python. but mostly cause it's really fucking good and more people should go watch it.

Ruger Super Redhawk > Colt snake guns, fite me maggots.

[QUOTE=Tinter;46655937]Probably not. Zombies are usually less fragile than people, and .22lr is weak. WEAK![/QUOTE] But .22lr has the power to go into the skull, but not out the other side, meaning it would ricochet around in its skull, fucking up all that mushy brain.

Here at FP coolgunz, we like to tackle those hard-hitting questions about totally completely not fucking dumb plausible scenarios with [I]hard[/I] science and even [I]harder[/I] facts. Didja no a 50mm can cut ur arm off i no cos i seen it in ramboo

[QUOTE=Tinter;46655937]Probably not. Zombies are usually less fragile than people, and .22lr is weak. WEAK![/QUOTE] I think you mean .22 short

[QUOTE=Holt!;46656799]But .22lr has the power to go into the skull, but not out the other side, meaning it would ricochet around in its skull, fucking up all that mushy brain.[/QUOTE] '.22 ricocheting around in someone's skull' is a dumb myth, it's literally not a thing that can happen - brain matter is way too good at stopping the bullet, and the skull's either gonna shatter or just stop the bullet outright (yeah this was probably a sarcastic joke post but then again you're from the land of 'we found a few .22 bullets in our garden, better move or they'll explode and kill everyone' if flagdog is to be believed :v:) tiny calibers do do some [i]weird[/i] shit inside the body - nothing like having a .25 only chip your skull a bit and then have these chips give you an aneurysm the next day! (might not have been exactly how it happened but I definitely remember reading about it)

[QUOTE=Sableye;46655462]well shit, this isn't going to help when cops already are paranoid about not-guns that look like guns [editline]6th December 2014[/editline] but wouldn't .22lr be like really effective in a zombie apocalypse being the most available caliber of bullet out there[/QUOTE] It would be modestly effective, but the fact you can carry hundreds in a pocket and thousands or tens of thousands of rounds in a bag is much better than only being able to carry a few hundred .45s before getting bogged down too much. .22LR wouldn't be bad against them at a distance, but up close i'd use a 9mm or or similar for the better chance of a certain kill.

[t]http://puu.sh/dkbBT/57d5cbf6d7.jpg[/t] Does anyone know what gun is between the CBJ and Bren?

That would be an anime

A crappily drawn United Defense M42 [t]http://www.imfdb.org/images/1/11/UD-M42.jpg[/t]

I'm fairly sure I've seen one of those before, lemme do some digging. [editline]Ah[/editline] [QUOTE=Taggart;46657572]A crappily drawn United Defense M42 [t]http://www.imfdb.org/images/1/11/UD-M42.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Never mind. Although I'm not sure I'd say the drawing is all that "Crappy", for the most part there's decent detail. It's not 100% accurate, but it's a picture drawn in a specific art style, not a blueprint diagram.

[QUOTE=Taggart;46657572]A crappily drawn United Defense M42 [t]http://www.imfdb.org/images/1/11/UD-M42.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] just reading the wiki page for that makes it sound terrible, apparently even though it used mostly machined parts, the few sheet metal bits would warp under combat conditions, and the gun was very easy to jam up with mud and sand as well supprised i havent seen this on forgotten weapons

There's a reason most people only remember the Thompson (and to a lesser degree the Greaser) when it comes to America's World War 2 submachine guns, because we don't want to admit that we used the others. Like this little mistake, the Reising M50: [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Model-50.jpg[/t] And its even more deformed brother the M55 [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Model-55-Closed.jpg[/t] Regarded as a poor man's Thompson (they were about 1/4th the cost to build), these were actually notable for actually firing from a closed bolt, a rare if not nonexistent feature on earlier submachine guns. Sadly that didn't make up for its other problems, they had very poor reliability, they jammed, they rattled, and when they broke not all of the parts were readily interchangeable. They were also a pain to strip for cleaning. Although I did think the charging handle was an interesting design, it's hidden inside the bottom of the hand guard so it doesn't protrude, no need to worry about it getting caught or knocked on something.

[img]http://www.smb.nu/poltavabloggen/uploaded_images/final-725961.jpg[/img] Fort 12 is a pretty cool pistol

That pistol, along with the AN-94, is S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

The Fort-12 is rotating barrel, isn't it?

[QUOTE=TehAgentGuy;46657462][t]http://puu.sh/dkbBT/57d5cbf6d7.jpg[/t] Does anyone know what gun is between the CBJ and Bren?[/QUOTE] What was the little green gun with all the shit on it in the middle again?

[QUOTE=MeltingData;46659144]What was the little green gun with all the shit on it in the middle again?[/QUOTE] CBJ-MS [img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg101/cbj-ms-3.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Uncle Bourbon;46659172]CBJ-MS [img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg101/cbj-ms-3.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Silly swedes. [editline]7th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Riller;46658810]That pistol, along with the AN-94, is S.T.A.L.K.E.R.[/QUOTE] TOZ-34 or bust.

[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/1847Colt_Walker.jpg[/t] The Colt Walker. Also, thread number is 357!

[QUOTE=M.Ciaster;46656973]'.22 ricocheting around in someone's skull' is a dumb myth, it's literally not a thing that can happen - brain matter is way too good at stopping the bullet, and the skull's either gonna shatter or just stop the bullet outright (yeah this was probably a sarcastic joke post but then again you're from the land of 'we found a few .22 bullets in our garden, better move or they'll explode and kill everyone' if flagdog is to be believed :v:) tiny calibers do do some [i]weird[/i] shit inside the body - nothing like having a .25 only chip your skull a bit and then have these chips give you an aneurysm the next day! (might not have been exactly how it happened but I definitely remember reading about it)[/QUOTE] I know nothing about .22lr, and apparently what I did know is wrong. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Binladen34;46655289]They're all suppressing fire on a building that has been bombed and set on fire. Even the riflemen are suppressing fire. I think the building is thoroughly suppressed enough pls dont fire another RPG at the building, now it's time to clear it. [editline]6th December 2014[/editline] It's not that they're retarded, they're just being dumb. Sorry for sounding like a cunt.[/QUOTE] I think they are doing just what they need to. If islamist terrorists are blocked in a building this is exatly what they need to do: rain fire on them until no one fires back and then rain more fire on them. There is really no point in storming the building. Islamists generally don't give up, their goal is in fact to die fighting, so the chance of getting one alive is slim. At least one of them will have an explosive vest he can detonate if enemies get close. They could booby trap the whole building with ease. During a storm they would gain a huge advantage because of much smaller ranges and ability to ambush attackers. If chechen soldiers tried to assault they would definitely win, but at least one of them would die. And nobody wants to die. After the islamists are killed some special forces unit with proper explosives protection will storm the building. But these guys can just fire aks in general direction of the windows.

[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46659558]I think they are doing just what they need to. If islamist terrorists are blocked in a building this is exatly what they need to do: rain fire on them until no one fires back and then rain more fire on them. There is really no point in storming the building. Islamists generally don't give up, their goal is in fact to die fighting, so the chance of getting one alive is slim. At least one of them will have an explosive vest he can detonate if enemies get close. They could booby trap the whole building with ease. During a storm they would gain a huge advantage because of much smaller ranges and ability to ambush attackers. If chechen soldiers tried to assault they would definitely win, but at least one of them would die. And nobody wants to die. After the islamists are killed some special forces unit with proper explosives protection will storm the building. But these guys can just fire aks in general direction of the windows.[/QUOTE] Western doctrine, particularly when working on your home turf isn't to fire massive amounts of ammunition and heavy ordnance in a civilian area where you could possibly kill civilians. It's radically different to how western militaries operate. On top of that there is the potential of hostages (again, the risk is massively increased in a civilian area). Western militaries when working at home would never risk the lives of possible hostages like that.