Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

[QUOTE=StrykerE;46783865]Speaking of AKs, Russia has decided to go forward in evaluating both the A-545(Upgraded AEK-971) and AK-12 after they both passed state trials. [url]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/23/breaking-russian-army-accepts-ak-12-aek-971/[/url] [IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Oboronexpo2014part4-11-L-660x441.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/10749950-964472850234125-2682482274205844641-o-660x440.jpg[/IMG] But I don't think this means either one has been officially adopted as a service rifle yet. The AN-94 was technically accepted but rarely used.[/QUOTE] Seems moderately odd to me, between the two, the AEK seems like the insanely superior rifle in just about every way except stock design.

This is sort of cool: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkthsIs71OA[/media]

I was disappointed when they weren't the other kind of railgun at first but that's still pretty cool.

Railguns are so fucking finicky that I'd be terrified to shoot one. It's like shooting a shotgun shell from a PVC pipe, always guaranteed failure.

[QUOTE=Ehmmett;46787841]Really? You're terrified of a well machined custom gun that a load of old people are shooting, but you've got a hard on for illegal homemade guns?[/QUOTE] considering railguns are new and require more than a cartridge and some steel tubing, I'd be cautious too

[QUOTE=Crash155;46787856]considering railguns are new and require more than a cartridge and some steel tubing, I'd be cautious too[/QUOTE] I dunno, they seem pretty simple and solid in the actual shooty bits. It's probably just the targeting and recoil mitigation mechanisms that are out of the ordinary.

ehhh.. [t]http://www.opticstalk.com/uploads/298/000002.jpg[/t] [t]http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll57/farmallsh/14644671.jpg[/t] [sp]Merry Christmas by the way.[/sp]

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46787559]Railguns are so fucking finicky that I'd be terrified to shoot one. It's like shooting a shotgun shell from a PVC pipe, always guaranteed failure.[/QUOTE] I suspect you don't know much about railguns.

[QUOTE=Riller;46785435]Seems moderately odd to me, between the two, the AEK seems like the insanely superior rifle in just about every way except stock design.[/QUOTE] Probably superior in terms of performance, but the AK-12 is "good enough" and is cheaper. I wouldn't be surprised if they save the AEK for the more specialized units like VDV and give the AK12 to regular infantry.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46787559]Railguns are so fucking finicky that I'd be terrified to shoot one. It's like shooting a shotgun shell from a PVC pipe, always guaranteed failure.[/QUOTE] They don't fail, they're just that much shootier than any other gun that they spot weld their barrels together and set the air on fire.

[QUOTE=Ehmmett;46787841]Really? You're terrified of a well machined custom gun that a load of old people are shooting, but you've got a hard on for illegal homemade guns?[/QUOTE] A lot of things can go wrong with a railgun, and they are major piss off to take apart and repair. The biggest issue is electronic components buzzing out, jams requiring entire weapon break downs, and finally microscopic wear which can cause disastrous issues with internal barrel damage. [url=http://www.nrl.navy.mil/content_images/2012Review/12_FA2.pdf]The US Navy[/url] has a huge PDF dedicated to this type of thing, as it was found that all though railguns can be safer then contemporary explosive charges, they are still prone to issues that can get people killed.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46788302]A lot of things can go wrong with a railgun, and they are major piss off to take apart and repair. The biggest issue is electronic components buzzing out, jams requiring entire weapon break downs, and finally microscopic wear which can cause disastrous issues with internal barrel damage. [url=http://www.nrl.navy.mil/content_images/2012Review/12_FA2.pdf]The US Navy[/url] has a huge PDF dedicated to this type of thing, as it was found that all though railguns can be safer then contemporary explosive charges, they are still prone to issues that can get people killed.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry for the video I posted having a bit of a confusing title, but this argument is not about electric railguns at all. It's simply high precision gunpowder-driven rifles mounted on rails that handle the recoil :v:

[QUOTE=paul simon;46788669]I'm sorry for the video I posted having a bit of a confusing title, but this argument is not about electric railguns at all. It's simply high precision gunpowder-driven rifles mounted on rails that handle the recoil :v:[/QUOTE] ohhhh, sorry then guys. I thought we were talking like Navy Railguns :v:

[QUOTE=Crash155;46787856]considering railguns are new and require more than a cartridge and some steel tubing, I'd be cautious too[/QUOTE] rail gun, not railgun [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_gun[/url] rail gun is a much more traditional type of thing than a railgun.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/6y433KY.jpg[/t] Merry Krissmas everyone.

[quote][t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/22LR-572x660.jpg[/t] A few weeks ago I was on the way home and decided to stop and shoot a few rounds at an unsupervised public range. Now I normally stay away from this kind of range because there always seems to one of “those” guys around. I figured no big deal and it will be dark by the time I get home and at this time of the day there probably won’t be anybody on this range anyway. One juicy rationalization I wish I hadn’t made. I pull up and sure enough there are a couple of younger guys shooting a .22 rifle. I setup down the line from them and got my range bag out and laid a few mags out. Max distance on this range is 25 yards. Well I never got to shoot any of those 45 acps. I had just loaded some 200 grain handloads in my third mag when my Oakleys were knocked sideways to my left. It took a second but I knew what had hit my glasses a damn bullet! I guess it was just reflex but I drew my Remington Carry 1911 and looked at the only people on the range besides myself. The next thing to happen is my yelling at them to cease fire which they did. You have a very angry guy with a 1911 in hand in low ready hollering at you I guess it tends to get your attention. I figured out pretty fast it wasn’t intentional so I walked over to them. On the way I looked at what they were shooting with the 22 rifle. They were shooting an old piece of steel with large caliber holes already in it from some other shooter. How stupid can a couple of young adults be! As any shooter knows you don’t shoot a piece of steel like that so close to you with a .22 LR. Rounds will ricochet without fail. I had a sincere discussion with them until they realized what they had done. It scared the crud out of them when they did realize they had just bounced a 22LR off the left lense of my Oakleys. After listening to apologies for the next ten minutes I told them to remember what happened here and emphasized it could have been a lot worse. They left and I sat down a few minutes thinking about what had happened then packed up and went home. Here on TFB we’ve talked many times about wearing glasses on the range and shown many brands and types of glasses. I’m a firm believer in wearing glasses on the range and always have been. I know some have commented you don’t need them but you just never know and this sure proves it. I posted a photo of my glasses which shows where the .22 round skipped off the lens. It was a hard photo to get and still show where the round hit.The clear silicone nosepiece on the left side popped out and I haven’t a clue where that went. These glasses are the Oakley Crosshair and I sure can attest to the quality, comfort and ability to protect a shooters vision! If you want some good everyday sunglasses that also protect you on the range these sure fill the bill. I thought about writing this for a couple of weeks and finally decided if it changes one persons mind about wearing protective glasses on the range it would be worth it. Chris Cheng recently wrote a couple of installments on his visit to the Oakley factory. He is an Oakley enthusiast and now I am too, they saved the vision in my left eye and who knows what else! [ Steve Says: I just want to add that shooting glasses should be worn before entering the vicinity of a gun range. Don’t wait until you are walking towards the firing line. Last year Bryan Jones and I were walking and talking at the SHOT Show Media Day Shoot. Bryan suddenly yelled and asked me to check his eye. A piece of shrapnel had embedded itself in his face just next to his eye protection. It was deep enough in his flesh to bleed. We were quite a distance from the firing line at a very well controlled range that was only being used by shooting media and gun industry employees. We were both wearing eye protection, but if he had not along with a split second’s difference in timing, then Bryan, a professional photographer, would have lost or severely damaged one eye. I also want to emphasize the far less sexy ear protection. Unlike shooting glasses, nobody has ever looked cooler wearing ear protection than they did without it. Not wearing ear protection will cause damage every time you pull the trigger and the damage will accumulate over your lifetime. A good friend of mine is an Audiologist who sees many life long hunters come in with hearing problems later in life. Phil and I both use Etymotic Research hearing protection (read my review from 2012 here. Phil’s 2013 review is here.). They are expensive, but are much more comfortable to wear for long periods of time than bulky earmuff electronic hearing protection, especially on a hot day. If you can’t afford high-end ear protection, disposable foam ear plugs cost less than 50c a pair and do just as good a job at protecting your hearing (but are much less convenient). I keep at least five pairs of foam ear plugs in my vehicle to make sure I always have them when I need them, if I forget my Etymotics, and also to provide them to other shooters who forget their protection at home (I also keep an extra two or three pairs of cheap shooting glasses in my range bag). ] [/quote] [url=http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/24/oakleys-awesome-save-vision/]The Firearm Blog[/url] Remember, always wear eye and ear protection!

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46790000][url=http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/24/oakleys-awesome-save-vision/]The Firearm Blog[/url] Remember, always wear eye and ear protection![/QUOTE] As a person who has picked jacket fragments from a 5.56 from his face after shooting some steel at 40 yards, I can't stress this enough.

You know, with that little "Ghost Gunner" thing I posted a page or so back, I am starting to wonder if something like that could be used to take blocks of high quality aluminium/steel and using it to create receivers from scratch. I also wonder if it'd be possible to make a stamping machine in such a small space, in order to create things like AK receivers. If such creations became possible, we could literally start seeing gun dealers selling suitcases that can make entire guns. Which would be fucking radical tbh. Oh yeah, and on the topic of ~ghost gunner~ and Cody Wilson... Some guy from Canada made his own .22LR rifle via 3D Printing! [t]http://3dprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/MtcXCTm-1024x768.jpg[/t][t]http://3dprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/yHTofPj-225x300.jpg[/t] [t]http://3dprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Ruger-Rifle-3D-Printed.jpg[/t][t]http://3dprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/3d-printed-rifle-1024x768.jpg[/t] [url=http://3dprint.com/31807/3d-printed-rifle-from-canada/]3d Print[/url]

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46789746][t]http://i.imgur.com/6y433KY.jpg[/t] Merry Krissmas everyone.[/QUOTE] Did you take this photo? Do you own this particular piece?

Because it's Christmas... [img]http://puu.sh/dIR7j/5f174e0dc0.jpg[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/dIR8M/695659ab73.jpg[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/dIRcV/5aa43166d6.jpg[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/dIReC/8736a1a555.jpg[/img] ...have a MP5 and a 92F. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0si6wsZWn6g[/media] Ho-Ho-Ho.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;46791530]Did you take this photo? Do you own this particular piece?[/QUOTE] No, wish I did. It just came up while I was looking at Vector CRB hand guards, the thing looks so much better with a good set of them, like a proper carbine rather than a little SMG with 11 inches of barrel tacked on the end. Also it's a Diamondhead hand guard for anyone wondering.

[HD]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTRjXD7AVU[/HD]

[QUOTE=paul simon;46785748]This is sort of cool: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkthsIs71OA[/media][/QUOTE] What's the point of competetive shooting if your gun is held perfectly in place on target all the time. That's like having a "draw a straight line contest" and people are allowed to use rulers.

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46793480]What's the point of competetive shooting if your gun is held perfectly in place on target all the time. That's like having a "draw a straight line contest" and people are allowed to use rulers.[/QUOTE] Then it all becomes about who has the best ruler/pencil

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46793480]What's the point of competetive shooting if your gun is held perfectly in place on target all the time. That's like having a "draw a straight line contest" and people are allowed to use rulers.[/QUOTE] There's probably more to it than what we see/understand. The craftsmanship in it and all. In the video, Jeff did a comparison to dragster cars. It might be hard to ultimately see the point, but there's still a community for it.

[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/AK-SMG-1942.jpg/1280px-AK-SMG-1942.jpg[/t] I sometimes wish someone would make reproductions of the AK-42

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46793480]What's the point of competetive shooting if your gun is held perfectly in place on target all the time. That's like having a "draw a straight line contest" and people are allowed to use rulers.[/QUOTE] it's not about skill as a shooter, it's skill as a machinist. These aren't shooting competitions, it's who's the best at building a gun and who's best at calculating trajectories. basically guns for nerds

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46794553][t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/AK-SMG-1942.jpg/1280px-AK-SMG-1942.jpg[/t] I sometimes wish someone would make reproductions of the AK-42[/QUOTE] I always thought the ak-42 looked like a russkie tommy gun.

It looks like what would happen if you combined a Papasha, a Tommy, and an MP40. So basically all the WW2 sub guns worth mentioning.

[t]https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/shotgunpistolsthailand1improguns.jpg[/t] Holy fuck Thailand. Get your shit together.