Coolest/Ugliest Weapons V5 - Bullpup AKs are the best - General

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41454424]You're objectively wrong there, sorry. And the whole "whip it to the left and then whip it back" move is just movie magic. Actually doing that will damage the gun over time.[/QUOTE] even while whipping a revolver's cylinder isn't really ideal, opening and closing with your off hand it isn't that hard or time consuming to do.

[QUOTE=Ian;41454975]even while whipping a revolver's cylinder isn't really ideal, opening and closing with your off hand it isn't that hard or time consuming to do.[/QUOTE] Thank you, haha this is what I was trying to convey.

Sup guys.. Just leaving this here.. [img]http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/179/9/b/stoner_mk23_by_drake_uk-d6b3zan.jpg[/img] Dont mind me..

[QUOTE=zach1193;41454561]And revolvers aren't bad or unreliable guns regardless of whether they're outdated, they can still serve the purpose that they're made for with effectiveness. Just because there's a newer design doesn't mean the older designs can't be used effectively, at least to some degree, the way you put it, it seems as if revolvers are useless and now that slide action handguns are around revolvers can no longer shoot bullets or kill things. [/QUOTE] I'm not denying or diminishing the merits that a revolver might have, I'm just saying any advantage you might get out of it would be completely negligible in comparison with most modern handguns. Loading a modern handgun is a 3 step process, loading a revolver is almost twice that.

Gahwd it's 2013 already Trunk Monkay, get with the program. [IMG]http://www.stu-offroad.com/firearms/spdldr/spdldr-5.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=arthuro12;41459650]Gahwd it's 2013 already Trunk Monkay, get with the program. [IMG]http://www.stu-offroad.com/firearms/spdldr/spdldr-5.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] That's still more of a task than inserting a magazine. The argument that reloading a revolver can be easier/more efficient than a modern handgun is BS. zimmerman not guilty TYBG [img]http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/ourguns/gallery/b_91028d013dcee98eec3996410c641941PF9_4045.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=arthuro12;41459063]Sup guys.. Just leaving this here.. [img]http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/179/9/b/stoner_mk23_by_drake_uk-d6b3zan.jpg[/img] Dont mind me..[/QUOTE] Ahh Stoner 63 LMG goodness...

[QUOTE=arthuro12;41459650]Gahwd it's 2013 already Trunk Monkay, get with the program. [IMG]http://www.stu-offroad.com/firearms/spdldr/spdldr-5.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] In a stressful situation, trying to release the cylinder, swing it out, push the ejector to remove the spent casings, keep the cylinder clear of the frame so you can line up the bullets in the speedloader with the cylinder, push it in to release the rounds, and then lock the cylinder back into the frame properly is a total clusterfuck of fine motor skills. Reloading a pistol is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb, sticking a big blocky magazine in a big blocky magazine well, and then either pulling the slide so it releases or thumbing the slide release. It's straightforward, it's simple, and you do it less often with a higher capacity than a revolver. Please don't respond with videos of people speed-reloading revolvers Bob Munden-style in less than a second one-handed or whatever. What works on a range and what works when your life is on the line are miles apart. There's a good reason why many handgun instructors specifically teach to pull the slide on a semi-auto with your whole hand to release it rather than use the slide release with your thumb. With the adrenaline and stress of being under fire, even simple tasks become complex and time-consuming, so the simpler the better. A revolver may suffice as a personal defense weapon you don't intend to reload but even then I'd rather have a subcompact semi-auto with an additional magazine or two as backup. Consider how many gun advocates have been saying that seven rounds is insufficient for self-defense in response to New York's recent legislation, and ask yourself if you'd trust your life to just six rounds.

[QUOTE=arthuro12;41459650]Gahwd it's 2013 already Trunk Monkay, get with the program. [IMG]http://www.stu-offroad.com/firearms/spdldr/spdldr-5.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Modern handgun: 1.Press magazine release 2.insert new magazine 3.press slide release 150 year old revolver: 1.Release the cylinder 2.eject spent casings 3.insert speedloader 4.remove speedloader 5.close cylinder now, which one do you reckon would take longer and be less efficient? I'll give yah a hint, it's the one with almost twice as many steps. Furthermore, when your adrenaline is pumping and you're possibly getting shot at or rushed, using a speedloader will be harder than inserting a magazine.

Well gentlemen, the obvious solution here is to have a revolver that you'll never have to reload :v: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5otjQf8.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Jagur;41459728]That's still more of a task than inserting a magazine. The argument that reloading a revolver can be easier/more efficient than a modern handgun is BS. zimmerman not guilty TYBG [IMG]http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/ourguns/gallery/b_91028d013dcee98eec3996410c641941PF9_4045.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Nobody was arguing that it was easier, it's just slightly more difficult or time consuming, and if you're good enough at either, you can reload with great speed with either design. What I'm saying is I'm sure if you trained hard enough, you could reload a revolver at the same speed an average person could reload a handgun. Also the whole adrenaline argument is subjective and even if you do take that into consideration, then you also have to take it with the handguns. If you're too nervous to reload a revolver, then I don't think you'd be very efficient at reloading a handgun either. 5 steps compared to 3 is not a huge leap, also it takes a lot longer to unload a jam then to never jam, just a thought.

[QUOTE=zach1193;41460552]Nobody was arguing that it was easier, it's just slightly more difficult or time consuming, and if you're good enough at either, you can reload with great speed with either design. What I'm saying is I'm sure if you trained hard enough, you could reload a revolver at the same speed an average person could reload a handgun.[/quote] And if you put in the same time and effort on becoming skilled at reloading a pistol, you could reload it twice as, if not three times as, fast as your average person trying to reload a revolver. I'll say this again, any advantage you get from a revolver is negligible to the accumulated advantages you get from a modern pistol. [QUOTE=zach1193;41460552] Also the whole adrenaline argument is subjective and even if you do take that into consideration, then you also have to take it with the handguns. If you're too nervous to reload a revolver, then I don't think you'd be very efficient at reloading a handgun either.[/quote] Yeah not really. Loading a pistol is insanely easy. You put a large square stick into a large square hole. It's real hard to fuck it up, even when your adrenaline is pumping like crazy. A revolver is a completely different story. You'll have to fit 6 small rods into 6 small holes before you can even remove the speedloader and close the cylinder. Thats tough to do when you're pissing yourself while your hands are shaking. [QUOTE=zach1193;41460552] 5 steps compared to 3 is not a huge leap, also it takes a lot longer to unload a jam then to never jam, just a thought.[/QUOTE] Unless you're using shit ammo or holding your pistol improperly, you don't have to worry about jams. And 9 times out of 10 a jam will be a simple stove pipe that you fix by pulling the slide back and letting it go. I'd be more worried about the cylinder falling out of alignment on a revolver than I would about jams in a semi automatic. Of course in the end it comes down to preference and what you're more comfortable with, but your slowest pistol reload is still going to be faster than your fastest revolver reload.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41460096]150 year old revolver: 1.Release the cylinder 2.eject spent casings 3.insert speedloader 4.remove speedloader 5.close cylinder[/QUOTE] Why do you keep referring to a revolver as being "150 years old" The first swing-out revolver was in 1889 and the first removable magazine autoloader was in 1893, the ages have nothing to do with this I'm not saying I disagree with you on this but the age of a design doesn't really seem to make a difference

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CEYuA2n.jpg[/IMG]

Waffle mags.

[QUOTE=kaine123;41463084][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CEYuA2n.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Now with drum mag! [t]http://i.imgur.com/xJ7XS0U.jpg[/t] [editline]14th July 2013[/editline] Wow that turned out even worse than I thought at first.

Ain't nothin' wrong with a little waffle on yer gun.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/tyXmrws.jpg[/IMG] To make up for how truly awful that shop was, have some extended mag goodness instead I'm done now.

You guys debating and arguiing in this thread.. goddamn. Have a moist Scar. [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/357b0c0eab2f26cc0bf4e2dd9e967280/tumblr_mpnbswSX3g1qmqs6fo1_1280.jpg[/img]

delicious moist adjustable [del]boot[/del] butt

Hey guys, I'm back! [del]Not that anyone cares[/del] Have an Ares "Shrike" light machine gun. [img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/ares/1297426951.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=_Vendetta_;41465106]Hey guys, I'm back! [del]Not that anyone cares[/del] Have an Ares "Shrike" light machine gun. [img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/ares/1297426951.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] While the idea is interesting, the idea of desperately clinging to the AR15 platform is not

Sup guys just made this for shits n giggles. [img]http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/196/b/f/marlin_lrr_by_arthuro12-d6djn9s.png[/img] No idea what it is.. but I thought it looked cool.

Err.. [img]http://s1.uploads.ru/YtCJ4.jpg[/img]

Weird looking.. AK?

i'd buy it

That looks delicious.

[QUOTE=Azaz3l;41467662]Err.. [img]http://s1.uploads.ru/YtCJ4.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I'd like it if not for the super-curvy foregrip and the notches for each finger. Doesn't do it for me. It may be comfortable, I don't know. I come here for looks, I'm not a gun person v:v:v

[QUOTE=download;41465953]While the idea is interesting, the idea of desperately clinging to the AR15 platform is not[/QUOTE] it's not a matter of desperately clinging to a platform, the point is that we already have a bunch of ARs fielded and anyone can make an Ares conversion in the field. [editline]15th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skyward;41469835]I'd like it if not for the super-curvy foregrip and the notches for each finger. Doesn't do it for me. It may be comfortable, I don't know. I come here for looks, I'm not a gun person v:v:v[/QUOTE] the trigger is gonna be awful, bullpup conversions always are. I don't think he was thinking comfort when he made it

AK bullpups are just all around bad.