but why would they be better than a pristine audio file
I want somebody to explain [i]why[/i]
I'm not an audiophile, I crank whatever I want out of my crappy 15 watt guitar amp and enjoy it. I just want to know the actual reason why
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30346391]Are vinyls supposed to be better quality that CDs or something
I would've thought it better to listen to music on a CD than a record, then again I don't really own any records[/QUOTE]
If I start talking about "depth" and "heart" will you judge me? :smug:
[editline]9th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30346448]but why would they be better than a pristine audio file
I want somebody to explain [i]why[/i]
I'm not an audiophile, I crank whatever I want out of my crappy 15 watt guitar amp and enjoy it. I just want to know the actual reason why[/QUOTE]
Whether you like it or not, classic albums will have frequencies cut off from the original when being remastered. Therefore not all CDs sound good because the production was designed for analogue mediums.
The only way you can test this is by looking up my vinyl/mp3 comparison of Animals on youtube.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30346448]but why would they be better than a pristine audio file
I want somebody to explain [I]why[/I]
I'm not an audiophile, I crank whatever I want out of my crappy 15 watt guitar amp and enjoy it. I just want to know the actual reason why[/QUOTE]
The argument against digital music is that sound loses much warmth and quality in its conversion into digital signals, whereas with analog recordings, i.e. vinyl, its just sound energy converted into magnetic energy and back into sound through your listening devices.
In my own personal experience, I have listened to vinyls and they do sound much richer and warm, but to be honest I'm happy with all of the mp3s and wavs on my computer and ipod for their convenience. It is nice, however, to just sit down, relax and enjoy some vinyls once in a while.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30346448]but why would they be better than a pristine audio file
I want somebody to explain [i]why[/i]
I'm not an audiophile, I crank whatever I want out of my crappy 15 watt guitar amp and enjoy it. I just want to know the actual reason why[/QUOTE]
Well, vinyl is a much more raw sounding experience that manages to capture the heart of the music a lot better than digital. Furthermore, in remastering something from vinyl to CD you do end up damaging the audio information (I think) even while it's being remastered, and often the remaster just doesn't sound too different anyway. It's why people like Steve Wilson choose to mix tracks from scratch instead of doing remasters.
Essentially, Vinyls have a larger range of frequencies. Waveforms played in an analog recording are much more precise - because in DVD's and CD's, it's a digital recording, which is converted into an analog sound that plays through your speakers, whereas with vinyl, both the original recording and its output are analog, hence no conversion.
Digital is preferred over Analog because of ease of use, portability, and variety of things you can do with it - its ESPECIALLY a lot easier to record for digital. but it isn't preferred for sound quality.
Remember, not all vinyls will sound as good as CDs because it's all about the mastering.
You can't just buy your whole collection on vinyl like some out there because it's not worth sticking solely to one format.
The fact that a record can be maintained for a longer period of time than a CD also matters.
CDs can be crap sounding after 20 years yet I have something about 50 years that sounds better than the remastered CD.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30346945]Remember, not all vinyls will sound as good as CDs because it's all about the mastering.
You can't just buy your whole collection on vinyl like some out there because it's not worth sticking solely to one format.
The fact that a record can be maintained for a longer period of time than a CD also matters.
CDs can be crap sounding after 20 years yet I have something about 50 years that sounds better than the remastered CD.[/QUOTE]
Not all CD's sound good either though, thats more or less a given with all music
Steely Dan's Two Against Nature is the best [I]sounding[/I] CD I've ever heard.
Doesn't mean to say it's the best music, it just sounds as if it went to the formats very bounderies to make production mean all it can.
I don't consider myself an audiophile though because I couldn't give a shit unless it's distorted.
well I read all of those and they kind of make sense
I'm never going to buy records though, don't see the point in investing in records and record player when I'm happy with what I have already. I see the point though
Yeah don't listen to those who say "Wow, you listen to MP3 therefore you are inferior".
It's pretty much about [I]how[/I] you listen that than what you listen with.
I also hear some balls about "It's more [I]real[/I] on vinyl". Don't listen to that either.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSAY2le9cM[/media]
I made that but it's still not the jist of what it's about.
The fact that Mp3s are standard really, really annoys me, but I'm not going to use that as an excuse to stop listening to them.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30347244]Yeah don't listen to those who say "Wow, you listen to MP3 therefore you are inferior".
It's pretty much about [I]how[/I] you listen that than what you listen with.
I also hear some balls about "It's more [I]real[/I] on vinyl". Don't listen to that either.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSAY2le9cM[/media]
I made that but it's still not the jist of what it's about.[/QUOTE]
I just like music
[editline]9th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=killerteacup;30347323]The fact that Mp3s are standard really, really annoys me, but I'm not going to use that as an excuse to stop listening to them.[/QUOTE]
I am indifferent to the format in which music is played, either digital or physical
Some people focus too much on the little things
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30347383]
Some people focus too much on the little things[/QUOTE]
It does make it more of an experience to play vinyl rather than clicking mp3.
Also people are interested in my records rather than what I have as 1s and 0s on a harddrive.
MP3s are worthless too. Another aspect you can look at it.
Honestly I would prefer to have all my music contained within my 1 terabyte removable HD
Can't lose it
Misplace it
Will always be organised
Can share with my friends at anytime I want
Bring it anywhere I want
And it takes up the same amount of space as a small book
Don't forget about rare albums being worth a lot. :smugdog:
I'm not interested in selling the music I physically own
It's mine
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30347456]I'm not interested in selling the music I physically own
It's mine[/QUOTE]
Same, but sometimes you can trade.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30347383]
I am indifferent to the format in which music is played, either digital or physical
Some people focus too much on the little things[/QUOTE]
Not format, quality. Mp3 is really, really poor quality and pretty lossy. I would prefer the industry standard format to be something like FLAC.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;30347465]Mp3 is really, really poor quality and pretty lossy.[/QUOTE]
No it's not. It's not distorted and it delivers the audio with some dignity.
Industry Standard means nothing because it may just be a gimmick.
I have no issue whatsoever with the mp3s I listen to, the quality is great.
I have no idea where you're coming from
The only use I have for FLAC is the surround sound functionality. That is all.
I never use FLACs at all, ever
[QUOTE=AK'z;30347477]No it's not. It's not distorted and it delivers the audio with some dignity.
Industry Standard means nothing because it may just be a gimmick.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, misused that term - I just mean the encoding format that most everyone uses.
But seriously there are formats which are a lot better quality at the same if not similar filesize and mp3's aren't music to my ears
Anyway, back to Pink Floyd?
Anyone got a FLAC of Pink Floyd to compare with a 320 mp3?
yeah I agree
[editline]9th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=AK'z;30347528]Anyone got a FLAC of Pink Floyd to compare with a 320 mp3?[/QUOTE]
Let's just stop talking about it entirely. I just wanted some record opinions compared to digital stuff now we're arguing over mp3s
Okay I'm comparing FLAC of In The Flesh to my 320 version of it.
No difference. :smugdog:
[QUOTE=AK'z;30347570]Okay I'm comparing FLAC of In The Flesh to my 320 version of it.
No difference. :smugdog:[/QUOTE]
I hear differences :saddowns:
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;30347532]yeah I agree
[editline]9th June 2011[/editline]
Let's just stop talking about it entirely. I just wanted some record opinions compared to digital stuff now we're arguing over mp3s[/QUOTE]
Yeah, we're wasting [i]time[/i] here that could be better spent doing other things :smug:
Actually there is slightly more bass on the FLAC but other than that....
[QUOTE=AK'z;30347575]Actually there is slightly more bass on the FLAC but other than that....[/QUOTE]
I hear more differences than that but I don't really see why it matters
I was using FLAC as an example but really not enough players support it, but my point was that there are better options that are of similar efficiency
Moving on
I think we can talk about what we want, I mean what do a few posts matter
It's a discussion
Okay mofos:
Guess which is FLAC and which is MP3
[media]http://soundcloud.com/akayz7/intheflesh-derp[/media]
[media]http://soundcloud.com/akayz7/intheflesh-derf[/media]
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