No-Porn Forever - are you a bad enough dude to reboot?

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Pace.;35728739]Tell me, if heroin made it harder to feel good sober, why did you take it?[/QUOTE]

1. If heroin made you feel like crap while you were on it, I damn well would ask why you take it.

2. You're comparing porn to heroine. I know people who've been addicted to heroine. Don't ever use metaphors ever again, because you're terrible at it.

[Lord_Schrotty]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728857]1. If heroin made you feel like crap while you were on it, I damn well would ask why you take it.

2. You're comparing porn to heroine. I know people who've been addicted to heroine. Don't ever use metaphors ever again, because you're terrible at it.[/QUOTE]

Do you know that there's a diffrence between fun and addiction?

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728743]Because over the years I got used to it. I couldn't imagine to fap without and I never really tried.[/QUOTE]

. . .Really? You're telling me that at no point in your life you've ever fapped without porn before now?

You were at no point not in a position to be watching porn while masturbating? You've always had an internet connection, privacy, a mobile device with porn on it, etc . . .? For your entire life?

Because if that's true, then I think you have much, much, [I]much[/I] bigger issues than porn.

[Lord_Schrotty]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728901]. . .Really? You're telling me that at no point in your life you've ever fapped without porn before now?

You were at no point not in a position to be watching porn while masturbating? You've always had an internet connection, privacy, a mobile device with porn on it, etc . . .? For your entire life?

Because if that's true, then I think you have much, much, [I]much[/I] bigger issues than porn.[/QUOTE]

Of course I did fap without. But that's not what I want to tell you. I said porn bores me. Porn bores me because I watched it too much. That's why I want to quit watching it. It's not like I'm addicted to it.

The same thing with games. I don't really enjoy games anymore because they just bore me.

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728894]Do you know that there's a diffrence between fun and addiction?[/QUOTE]

Oh really? So you're suffering from porn withdrawal symptoms then? Tell me, how is the horrible shivering and paralyzing anxiety? Do you feel like you're slowly dying yet because you haven't gotten a fix from brazzers?

Don't talk about fucking addiction to me. Don't you ever fucking talk about addiction to me.

[editline]27th April 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728923]Of course I did fap without. But that's not what I want to tell you. I said porn bores me. Porn bores me because I watched it too much. That's why I want to quit watching it. It's not like I'm addicted to it.

The same thing with games. I don't really enjoy games anymore because they just bore me.[/QUOTE]

so your life is so entirely void and empty that you watch things that make it harder to masturbate just to fill the time

[Lord_Schrotty]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728936]Oh really? So you're suffering from porn withdrawal symptoms then? Tell me, how is the horrible shivering and paralyzing anxiety? Do you feel like you're slowly dying yet because you haven't gotten a fix from brazzers?

Don't talk about fucking addiction to me. Don't you ever fucking talk about addiction to me.
[/QUOTE]

Please read this. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction[/url]

Of course you can get addicted to porn. You don't die like you do it from drugs but it's not that diffrent. You say you know a lot about addiction. Then you should know that you can't just stop doing something over night. The same goes with porn.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728936]so your life is so entirely void and empty that you watch things that make it harder to masturbate just to fill the time[/QUOTE]

Is it really that hard to understand that I don't do this anymore?

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728983]Please read this. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction[/url]

Of course you can get addicted to porn. You don't die like you do it from drugs but it's not that diffrent. You say you know a lot about addiction. Then you should know that you can't just stop doing something over night. The same goes with porn.

Is it really that hard to understand that I don't do this anymore?[/QUOTE]

Oh cry me a fucking river and drown in it. People watch porn because it's fun to watch. They don't watch it because if they don't they'll collapse like a house of cards and go stark raving mad. Physical addiction is an actual measurable problem that affects a lot of people, and if you think for one moment that pathologically watching something is it's equal, then how about you go down to the local rehab clinic and pitch your spiel and see how people who actually suffer receive it.

Yet you did do it. Apparently for so long that you were unable to think of doing anything otherwise. And only now that someone has approached you with the novel idea of stopping for stopping's sake have you ceased.

[Lord_Schrotty]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729045]Oh cry me a fucking river and drown in it. People watch porn because it's fun to watch. They don't watch it because if they don't they'll collapse like a house of cards and go stark raving mad. Physical addiction is an actual measurable problem that affects a lot of people, and if you think for one moment that pathologically watching something is it's equal, then how about you go down to the local rehab clinic and pitch your spiel and see how people who actually suffer receive it.

Yet you did do it. Apparently for so long that you were unable to think of doing anything otherwise. And only now that someone has approached you with the novel idea of stopping for stopping's sake have you ceased.[/QUOTE]

And yet it's an addiction. There are people who can't even go out of the house because they need to watch their porn. I know that it's diffrent from other types of addictions.

But the way you talk makes me think that you're the one who is addicted to porn. There must be something wrong with you if you can't just let other people live their life the way they want to and let them watch what they want to.

[eternalflamez]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729045]Oh cry me a fucking river and drown in it. [b]People watch porn because it's fun to watch. [/b]They don't watch it because if they don't they'll collapse like a house of cards and go stark raving mad. Physical addiction is an actual measurable problem that affects a lot of people, and if you think for one moment that pathologically watching something is it's equal, then how about you go down to the local rehab clinic and pitch your spiel and see how people who actually suffer receive it.

Yet you did do it. Apparently for so long that you were unable to think of doing anything otherwise. And only now that someone has approached you with the novel idea of stopping for stopping's sake have you ceased.[/QUOTE]

Lol, what.
Boy, I'm sure having alot of fun looking at these random people having sex.

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=eternalflamez;35729088]Lol, what.
Boy, I'm sure having alot of fun looking at these random people having sex.[/QUOTE]

There's a reason that Megan Fox has a career. And it has nothing to do with her supple and bounteous emotional depth as an actress.

[Lord_Schrotty]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729106]There's a reason that Megan Fox has a career. And it has nothing to do with her supple and bounteous emotional depth as an actress.[/QUOTE]

So you tell me this is hot?

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729084]And yet it's an addiction. There are people who can't even go out of the house because they need to watch their porn. I know that it's diffrent from other types of addictions.

But the way you talk makes me think that you're the one who is addicted to porn. There must be something wrong with you if you can't just let other people live their life the way they want to and let them watch what they want to.[/QUOTE]

Different in that it's not a fucking addiction. Unless they're nymphomaniacs or something and they have a physical need for constant sexual stimulation, the only thing keeping them inside is themselves. With addiction you are literally unable to stop, and if you do you will harm yourself physically and mentally. [I]That[/I] is an addiction.

You're going to have to define addiction to porn there if you want to accuse me of having it. Because as of, oh, 4 hours ago, I'm perfectly capable of leaving my house and interacting with other human beings without thinking about or being significantly distracted by porn. I'm here because I'm trying to understand where you people are coming from, as apparently you have a completely alien mode of thought that I'm unable to grasp. So I'm trying to grasp it. And so far all I've gotten is that you like to contradict yourselves and make abominably inaccurate and insensitive comparisons.

[editline]27th April 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729126]So you tell me this looks good?

[IMG]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100410150728/two-and-a-half-men/de/images/0/0d/Megan_fox%3DPrudence.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Nope.

Which is why they chose this angle for Transformers.
[img]http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/megan-fox-transformers-2.jpg[/img]
Agree with the sentiment or not, the box office doesn't lie when it comes to what people like.

[Lord_Schrotty]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729168]Different in that it's not a fucking addiction. Unless they're nymphomaniacs or something and they have a physical need for constant sexual stimulation, the only thing keeping them inside is themselves. With addiction you are literally unable to stop, and if you do you will harm yourself physically and mentally. [I]That[/I] is an addiction.

You're going to have to define addiction to porn there if you want to accuse me of having it. Because as of, oh, 4 hours ago, I'm perfectly capable of leaving my house and interacting with other human beings without thinking about or being significantly distracted by porn. I'm here because I'm trying to understand where you people are coming from, as apparently you have a completely alien mode of thought that I'm unable to grasp. So I'm trying to grasp it. And so far all I've gotten is that you like to contradict yourselves and make abominably inaccurate and insensitive comparisons.[/QUOTE]

Then just tell me. Tell me what you want to know. All you asked was "Why are you guys doing this?". You got my answer and you're still here complaining about how stupid we are/I am.

[Mr. Scorpio]

Also why most porn doesn't involve extreme close ups. Go figure.

[Lord_Schrotty]

Why should they?

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729196]Then just tell me. Tell me what you want to know. All you asked was "Why are you guys doing this?". You got my answer and you're still here complaining about how stupid we are/I am.[/QUOTE]

Well, no. I pointed out an inconsistency in your logic and your story. Then another. Then another. Then another. Then I started having to explain things to you, and well, here we are with me trying to explain what sex appeal is and why people enjoy watching sex.

I believe my questions at this point are something along the lines of,

1. You don't actually follow the idea of "no porn forever", nor do you seem to care about it. Yet you still post about how you haven't watched porn. Why?

2. You've stated that you masturbated to porn even though you found it harder to masturbate with than without. Why would you ever do that? And why would you only stop when the idea is suggested to you if you could already recognize that porn made masturbation harder?

3. What is the net gain from trying to quit masturbating? What benefit is derived that outweighs the effort put in?

4. What is the difference between masturbating with porn or without porn?

5. Why bother trying to quit porn or masturbation if it's inevitable you'll either fail or express your desire for one or both through some other far more disturbing and unhealthy act?

I could think of more, but that's a decent list I believe.

[Scar]

6th day now, don't feel any different at all.

Meh, gonna try to do a month without porn, then I'll watch pr0n like once a week or so.

Seems like the best course of action for me.

Yes/No?

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729229]Why should they?[/QUOTE]

Er, they shouldn't. Because people don't watch porn for pretty faces, by and large. Because it's more about the sexual aspects of the human anatomy, if you understand my meaning.

[Lord_Schrotty]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729251]Well, no. I pointed out an inconsistency in your logic and your story. Then another. Then another. Then another. Then I started having to explain things to you, and well, here we are with me trying to explain what sex appeal is and why people enjoy watching sex.

I believe my questions at this point are something along the lines of,

1. You don't actually follow the idea of "no porn forever", nor do you seem to care about it. Yet you still post about how you haven't watched porn. Why?

2. You've stated that you masturbated to porn even though you found it harder to masturbate with than without. Why would you ever do that? And why would you only stop when the idea is suggested to you if you could already recognize that porn made masturbation harder?

3. What is the net gain from trying to quit masturbating? What benefit is derived that outweighs the effort put in?

4. What is the difference between masturbating with porn or without porn?

5. Why bother trying to quit porn or masturbation if it's inevitable you'll either fail or express your desire for one or both through some other far more disturbing and unhealthy act?

I could think of more, but that's a decent list I believe.[/QUOTE]

1. Why shouldn't I post about it? There's a thread for these kind of things so I can post whatever I want.

2. I quit fapping to porn a while ago. I did it only a few times this year.

3. I don't try to quit masturbating. I just don't want to do it every day.

4. This one you have to decide for yourself.

5. I never tried to quit masturbating. I just try to quit watching porn.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729267]Er, they shouldn't. Because people don't watch porn for pretty faces, by and large. Because it's more about the sexual aspects of the human anatomy, if you understand my meaning.[/QUOTE]

I know what you want to tell me. But you also know that porn isn't like sex in real life?

[A Glitch]

I find giving up porn easy, going without fapping is [I]so[/I] much harder

[Potato-Pugilist]

Why not try?

[Dutchlike]

Mr. Scorpio: the main point of this thread is that internet porn is way different than looking trough playboy magazine.
The internet has loads of girls on ready access, you probably open a few tabs <- this is the point made in the video; the problem is not porn itself, the problem is having loads of available it in a short time.
Instead of getting an issue with like 10 girls in it or something you're getting thousands.
Not only that but if you've got a specific fetish you can access it right away, maybe even grow into the harder stuff.

[Anthrax713]

[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729126]So you tell me this is hot?

[IMG]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100410150728/two-and-a-half-men/de/images/0/0d/Megan_fox%3DPrudence.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I'm fairly sure, unless you're gay, that if Megan Fox was down to fuck, you would.

[Scar]

[QUOTE=Anthrax713;35730276]I'm fairly sure, unless you're gay, that if Megan Fox was down to fuck, you would.[/QUOTE]

I think she's ugly as sin, now what?

[Centralia]

Good god, this thread makes porn into some kind of powerful force. Whether or not you watch it, its just fucking porn. Just because you watch it doesn't mean your dick is going to fall off. Yet there are people in here who act like NOT watching it will fuck you up or that it actually matters. It is just porn, where the fuck is the arguement coming from? I think of porn as a simple unneeded entertainment not a god damn drug. Seriously who cares what people decide to do with it, both parties are right.

[Zedicus Mann]

I survived the two day downtime of FP now.
Are you guys proud of me?

[Scar]

I did some "research" (if googeling "Porn Addiction" can be called research), and I think most of the pros in the OP are absolute bullshit.
And I haven't noticed any differences myself, on day 6 now.
I really start to question the meaningfulness of this.

[Zedicus Mann]

I think the bonuses are placebo effects. You believe it's making you better so you act like a better person.

[disseminate]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728128]I'm not a doctor, but I don't think your brain cares what you're aroused to as long as you're aroused. Functionally I don't see how fapping to porn is different than fapping without porn.[/QUOTE]

And I think it does.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729251]1. You don't actually follow the idea of "no porn forever", nor do you seem to care about it. Yet you still post about how you haven't watched porn. Why?

2. You've stated that you masturbated to porn even though you found it harder to masturbate with than without. Why would you ever do that? And why would you only stop when the idea is suggested to you if you could already recognize that porn made masturbation harder?

3. What is the net gain from trying to quit masturbating? What benefit is derived that outweighs the effort put in?

4. What is the difference between masturbating with porn or without porn?

5. Why bother trying to quit porn or masturbation if it's inevitable you'll either fail or express your desire for one or both through some other far more disturbing and unhealthy act?[/QUOTE]

I'd like to take a shot if you don't mind,

1. Because he's still taking part. If he hasn't watched porn since he signed up, he's taking part.

2. Because that's how porn addiction works.

3. The hope is that the benefits in the OP work.

4. Google 'classical conditioning'

5. That's like asking why you'd quit any unhealthy act if in the far future you'll fail. It's irrelevant to the goal you're trying to accomplish. Why would you eat a candy now if you're at risk of developing diabetes in the future? - because one candy probably isn't going to cause diabetes, and because candy tastes good.

[editline]27th April 2012[/editline]

oh look i got a title cool

[Scar]

[QUOTE=Disseminate;35731337]And I think it does.
I'd like to take a shot if you don't mind,

1. Because he's still taking part. If he hasn't watched porn since he signed up, he's taking part.

2. Because that's how porn addiction works.

3. The hope is that the benefits in the OP work.

4. Google 'classical conditioning'

5. That's like asking why you'd quit any unhealthy act if in the far future you'll fail. It's irrelevant to the goal you're trying to accomplish. Why would you eat a candy now if you're at risk of developing diabetes in the future? - because one candy probably isn't going to cause diabetes, and because candy tastes good.

[editline]27th April 2012[/editline]

oh look i got a title cool[/QUOTE]

So uh do you have anything to back your claims up? And I'm not talking about some "studies" on some obscure website, but peer reviewed stuff done by actual experts