Drug Discussion's Question Thread - Ask here instead of making new threads! - General

[QUOTE=CreativeName;30317868]Thanks. And I know I said this morning I wasn't gonna ask, but why can't we discuss RC vendors here? Sorry if it's an obvious thing, I probably just missed it.[/QUOTE] Because the wrath of Garry would smite us into oblivion. [editline]7th June 2011[/editline] Just kidding. If we advertise them, they are found and the site goes away...

[QUOTE=CreativeName;30317868]Thanks. And I know I said this morning I wasn't gonna ask, but why can't we discuss RC vendors here? Sorry if it's an obvious thing, I probably just missed it.[/QUOTE] How to find RC vendor: Search full chemical name Look for sites that look legitimate, sites that look like they are vending to scientists doing science. If it has typos or uses 'drug words' like trip and stupid shit like that move on. And when buying remember you are a scientist looking for scientific chemicals for use in your scientific endeavors. Good email: Give them specific amount, ask for related chemical information sheets, there is no need to mention what you are using it for ~ all they need to know is that they are using it. Bad email: "hey I want to buy 4 doses please"

[QUOTE=Goofa;30322105]How to find RC vendor: Search full chemical name Look for sites that look legitimate, sites that look like they are vending to scientists doing science. If it has typos or uses 'drug words' like trip and stupid shit like that move on. And when buying remember you are a scientist looking for scientific chemicals for use in your scientific endeavors. Good email: Give them specific amount, ask for related chemical information sheets, there is no need to mention what you are using it for ~ all they need to know is that they are using it. Bad email: "hey I want to buy 4 doses please"[/QUOTE] You don't really need to ask for information sheets etc unless you're trying to get into exclusive test groups, just ask for a quantity of whatever lab reagent it is you require.

Me and my friends want to try hallucinogenes. We already got everything set up, time/date/food & drinks/random shit/people to take care of us(they will be sober). Now we only need the drug itself. We were thinking about DMT, because the time its active is rather short. Though we need to make it ourselves (None sells it) and it looks rather complicated to make (though not impossible) and maybe its a bit too strong for the first time... Any recommendations ?

[QUOTE=Bucketofvodka;30329767]Me and my friends want to try hallucinogenes. We already got everything set up, time/date/food & drinks/random shit/people to take care of us(they will be sober). Now we only need the drug itself. We were thinking about DMT, because the time its active is rather short. Though we need to make it ourselves (None sells it) and it looks rather complicated to make (though not impossible) and maybe its a bit too strong for the first time... Any recommendations ?[/QUOTE]DXM is a readily available and awesome hallucinogen.

It looks too dangerous :ohdear: Also, DXM is sometimes compared as being drunk and stoned at the same time, wich I didnt really like. I dont care how awesome that was, I just hated the fact to have a short-term memory of 2 minutes.

[QUOTE=Bucketofvodka;30330130]It looks too dangerous :ohdear: Also, DXM is sometimes compared as being drunk and stoned at the same time, wich I didnt really like. How awesome that time was, I just hated the fact to have a memory of 2 minutes.[/QUOTE] I remember everything that happened when I was on DXM.

[QUOTE=IlikeHL2;30301400]You'll talk shitloads and probably want to ride a lot of rides and probably will enjoy them more imo. Also how much do you say 'a shit load' is?[/QUOTE] That depends on dosage and method of ingestion. [editline]9th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Bucketofvodka;30330130]It looks too dangerous :ohdear: [/QUOTE] Mind altering substances are inherently dangerous, though of course that varies on substance. Do a great deal of research before hand, and then make an informed decision. Even then, as you can probably tell from the wide range of differing reports and experiences, everyone reacts differently.

[QUOTE=TehWhale;30329793]DXM is a readily available and awesome hallucinogen.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't do DXM for the hallucinations, when you do hallucinate its generally closed eye or not vivid, at least for me and people I've talked to. I'd describe it as looking through a cracked mirror with some water on it, the more you take, the more cracked it gets. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Bucketofvodka;30330130]It looks too dangerous :ohdear: Also, DXM is sometimes compared as being drunk and stoned at the same time, wich I didnt really like. I dont care how awesome that was, I just hated the fact to have a short-term memory of 2 minutes.[/QUOTE] 2 minutes? You lucked out, my last time I pretty forgot things after saying them.

[QUOTE=Meader;30330675]I remember everything that happened when I was on DXM.[/QUOTE] Retrograde amnesia is a common side effect from dissociates such as dextromethorphan. You may not even experience much effects, it depends on what Cytochrome P450 2D6 allele you have, and how many times it is expressed. [quote=wiki] Don't take anything on this list at the same time, unless you know what the probably effect will be. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYP2D6#CYP2D6_ligands[/url] The CYP2D6 function in any particular subject may be described as one of the following: poor metaboliser–these subjects have little or no CYP2D6 function intermediate metabolizers–these subjects metabolize drugs at a rate somewhere between the poor and extensive metabolizers extensive metaboliser–these subjects have normal CYP2D6 function ultrarapid metaboliser–these subjects have multiple copies of the CYP2D6 gene expressed, and therefore greater-than-normal CYP2D6 function[/quote]

Maybe I should try 2C-i ? I like tripping and having a good time, but I dont like to be vert weird. I want to be able to do all the task I would normally do (Buying food, talking to people) Mostly when im fucked up I talk about stupid things all the time, slow reaction etc.

[QUOTE=Bucketofvodka;30350689]Maybe I should try 2C-i ? I like tripping and having a good time, but I dont like to be vert weird. I want to be able to do all the task I would normally do (Buying food, talking to people) Mostly when im fucked up I talk about stupid things all the time, slow reaction etc.[/QUOTE] Have you ever heard or SALVIA? I think that would suit your needs. Hallucinating like a boss for 5-10 minutes, then no hangover.

[quote]DOSAGE: 14 - 22 mg. DURATION: 6 - 10 h. QUALITATIVE COMMENTS (with 15 mg) Comfortable onset. Most notable are the visuals, patterning like 2C-B (Persian carpet type), very colorful and active. Much more balanced emotional character, but still no feeling of insight, revelation, or progress toward the true meaning of the universe. And at 5 1/2 hours drop-off very abrupt, then gentle decline. I would like to investigate museum levels. (with 16 mg) There was an immediate alert within minutes. As usual, it was only an awareness, then nothing happened for a while. In retrospect, I see some type of activity or awareness within 40 minutes, which then builds up over time. The peak was at 2 hours and seemed to maintain itself for a while. Near the peak, there was some hallucinogenic activity, though not a lot. The pictures in the dining room had color and pattern movement that was fairly detailed. Focusing on other areas, such as walls or the outside of the house, produced little activity, though I tried. There was certainly a lot of color enhancement. There was also that peculiar aspect of the visual field having darkened or shadowed areas. These darker areas seemed to shift around to some degree. That aspect seems to be similar to 2C-B. I don't think I was more than +2.5 at the peak. Coming down was uneventful. I was down within 6 hours. I had no problems driving home, nor were there any difficulties with sleep. There were no body problems with this material. I ate like a horse. (with 16 mg) The 16 was a bit much, I realized, because my body was not sure of what to do with all the energy. Next time I'll try 14 or 15. However, my conversations were extremely clear and insightful. The degree of honesty was incredible. I was not afraid to say anything to anyone. Felt really good about myself. Very centered, in fact. A bit tired at day's end. Early bedtime. (with 20 mg) I think there is slightly less than full immersion in the sensual, with this material, compared with 2C-B, but I suspect it's more a matter of getting used to the language of 2C-I and the feelings--getting tuned to a slightly different frequency, really-- rather than that the material is less sensual or less easy to use sensually. Just different frequency, and we are very, very used to 2C-B. Good on the body. Transition, for me, not as strongly dark as 2C-B. But it could certainly take a lot more exploring, if we were able to give the time (about 9 hours) to it. Next day: sleep excellent. Energy next day unusually good. Quite tired by evening.[/quote] Salvia and 2C-i are significantly different in duration, and in terms of hallucination. For his purposes 2C-I seems reasonable, but there is also the issue of legality, in which salvia may be superior.

[QUOTE=Bucketofvodka;30329767]Me and my friends want to try hallucinogenes. We already got everything set up, time/date/food & drinks/random shit/people to take care of us(they will be sober). Now we only need the drug itself. We were thinking about DMT, because the time its active is rather short. Though we need to make it ourselves (None sells it) and it looks rather complicated to make (though not impossible) and maybe its a bit too strong for the first time... Any recommendations ?[/QUOTE] ga naar utrecht/amsterdam of andere stad met smartshop en koop truffels of nog beter een paddo growkit, lekker verse paddos.

[QUOTE=Bucketofvodka;30350689]Maybe I should try 2C-i ? I like tripping and having a good time, but I dont like to be vert weird. I want to be able to do all the task I would normally do (Buying food, talking to people) Mostly when im fucked up I talk about stupid things all the time, slow reaction etc.[/QUOTE] 2c-i is really awesome but really the only drug where you can do everything you do sober is weed. [editline]9th June 2011[/editline] And honestly if you think you can handle DMT but you can't handle DXM I think you need to rethink this.

[QUOTE=Mac2468;30352089]2c-i is really awesome but really the only drug where you can do everything you do sober is weed.[/QUOTE] I disagree with that, moderate use of most stimulants is far less likely to be 'abnormal', with exception to the crash. Though that tends to be the trend with most psychoactive substances. If relatively sobriety is important, then reduce the dosage.

Hello once again, fellow drug users. I come with another question. Me and my friend plan on going to Amsterdam this summer. Thing is, we don't know how many days we plan on being there. It depends on the following: psychedelics' tolerance. We're going mostly for psychedelics. Do all psychedelics share the same tolerance/cooldown? If yes, how much time to wait after using one? If no, can I use one on one day and another one on the second? Enlightment would be welcome, thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Dedmytas;30353616]Hello once again, fellow drug users. I come with another question. Me and my friend plan on going to Amsterdam this summer. Thing is, we don't know how many days we plan on being there. It depends on the following: psychedelics' tolerance. We're going mostly for psychedelics. Do all psychedelics share the same tolerance/cooldown? If yes, how much time to wait after using one? If no, can I use one on one day and another one on the second? Enlightment would be welcome, thanks in advance.[/QUOTE] Depends on you mean by psychedelics?

[QUOTE=Dedmytas;30353616]Hello once again, fellow drug users. I come with another question. Me and my friend plan on going to Amsterdam this summer. Thing is, we don't know how many days we plan on being there. It depends on the following: psychedelics' tolerance. We're going mostly for psychedelics. Do all psychedelics share the same tolerance/cooldown? If yes, how much time to wait after using one? If no, can I use one on one day and another one on the second? Enlightment would be welcome, thanks in advance.[/QUOTE] Where exactly will you get these in a foreign country? Unless you exclusively mean DXm in which case it sounds like a waste of a holiday to dedicate it to that alone.

Hey guys, would it be a good idea to take some N2O after smoking some weed? Would the effects of the N2O change or still be the same because I've heard somewhere that weed increases the duration of the nitrous trip.

[QUOTE=Contag;30353677]Depends on you mean by psychedelics?[/QUOTE] LSD/MDMA/Shrooms/Salvia/DMT, optionally 2C-I [editline]9th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Callius;30353919]Where exactly will you get these in a foreign country? Unless you exclusively mean DXm in which case it sounds like a waste of a holiday to dedicate it to that alone.[/QUOTE] It's non of your concern and is off-topic.

[QUOTE=Dedmytas;30354233]LSD/MDMA/Shrooms/Salvia/DMT, optionally 2C-I [/QUOTE] Shrooms and LSD have some cross tolerance, starts to build after a 4+ a week IIRC, DMT tolerance is fairly rapid, I wouldn't recommend too much of the MDMA because you should give those neurotransmitters a rest. Salvia is a bit different, there isn't any real tolerance to speak of IIRC, but the experience is an 'acquired' one, so you might have to ingest it a few times before you experience significant effects. It's a bit of a learned drug, so I've read. [editline]10th June 2011[/editline] To get more bang for your buck, as it were, you could use them in conjunction with potentiating substances.

"4+ a week"? Explain please. You say DMT tolerance is rapid, so does it go up and go down fairly fast?

[QUOTE=Dedmytas;30354563]"4+ a week"? Explain please. You say DMT tolerance is rapid, so does it go up and go down fairly fast?[/QUOTE] Four and or more significant dosages in a week can lead to tolerance. It's not exponential so how much you do depends on how much time you have. Yeah, tolerance is extremely high within the first hour or two, then drops down to normal. You can re-administer every 1-2 hours, at least until your brain is a bit fried anyway.

If I had say, 250mg of 2C-E, is it safe to measure out the doses by sight? ie for the first time try about about one match heads worth and work my way up? (not snorting it by the way, ingesting it.)

honestly you shouldn't eyeball dose sensitive stuff. do volumetric measuring at least, if you're 100% sure it's 250mg you are sitting on. [url]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109340[/url] for the volumetric stuff

[QUOTE=Contag;30275897] Grapefruit juice is a reasonable option IIRC.[/QUOTE] Grapefruit juice?

[QUOTE=Barrowsx;30356103]Grapefruit juice?[/QUOTE] It acts as a potentiator for certain drugs. Opiates and DXM are the only ones I know of. Benadryl also potentiates opiates and stops itching. The more you know~

[QUOTE=Contag;30352542]I disagree with that, moderate use of most stimulants is far less likely to be 'abnormal', with exception to the crash. Though that tends to be the trend with most psychoactive substances. If relatively sobriety is important, then reduce the dosage.[/QUOTE] Good point I hadn't even thought of stimulants.

[QUOTE=Dedmytas;30354233]LSD/MDMA/Shrooms/Salvia/DMT, optionally 2C-I [editline]9th June 2011[/editline] It's non of your concern and is off-topic.[/QUOTE] 6Why mention something off topic and don't sound like a dick in DD it doesn't match well